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  33. # [00:58] <Hixie> dglazkov: interesting
  34. # [00:59] <Hixie> in other news, http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Change_Proposal_for_ISSUE-129 is down to 11 sections to do remaining
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  66. # [01:44] <dglazkov> For your reading pleasure: http://glazkov.com/2011/01/14/what-the-heck-is-shadow-dom/
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  99. # [02:42] <MikeSmith> http://glazkov.com/2011/01/14/what-the-heck-is-shadow-dom/ is a great writeup
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  102. # [02:45] <beowulf> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/NoLayoutTable # i don't really care either way about this issue, but these points are, um, stretching the truth a bit
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  105. # [02:55] <TabAtkins> Hehe, "that magnetic meme duo".
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  109. # [03:05] <MikeSmith> TabAtkins: yeah, mother effing magic
  110. # [03:06] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: you got to ween yourself off of the Nabokov, man
  111. # [03:06] <MikeSmith> no good can come of it
  112. # [03:07] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: Friend at uni here is doing presentation on Pale Fire next week. So there's an excuse for it :P
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  114. # [03:08] <MikeSmith> you should go heckle your friend during the presentation
  115. # [03:08] <TabAtkins> Holy crap: http://www.steampunkworkshop.com/victorian-all-one-pc
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  118. # [03:12] <pluma> I expected a difference engine. I'm not impressed.
  119. # [03:13] <TabAtkins> Good. Less competition when I break into his house and steal it.
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  128. # [03:53] <Hixie> beowulf: what points are stretching the truth?
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  156. # [04:57] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: "A powerful black-metal alliance announced to fill Europe with a smell of blood and sulphur. The Swedish occultists of WATAIN get prepared for an unholy impact in collaboration with their suicidal brothers of SHINING and AOSOTH."
  157. # [04:57] <MikeSmith> "Through this Death Holy Death Tour, these masters of inverted doctrines pull down your good sense in life with some skull-crushing black metallic hymns which will cut into your flesh! With their current release titled “Lawless Darkness”, black metal militia WATAIN have demonstrated that the might of ravenblack spiritual music can abduct the listener into a kingdom of eternal darkness." Get afraid of the darkest assault of the
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  169. # [05:35] <Hixie> TabAtkins: ok i filled in what we talked about (and some other stuff) http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/NoLayoutTable
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  224. # [10:05] <annevk> Philip`, see pm
  225. # [10:11] <hsivonen> hmm. jd seems to be unhappy about Mozilla "expanding scope" to video: http://blogs.adobe.com/jd/2011/01/video-debate-cutting-to-the-chase.html
  226. # [10:23] <hsivonen> Hixie: avoiding undermining a decade of "stay the course" advocacy didn't deter you from not calling text/html XHTML and from obsoleting longdesc.
  227. # [10:23] <hsivonen> Hixie: why is it now an argument for staying the course with layout table propaganda?
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  229. # [10:25] <hsivonen> Hixie: the UI of valitor.nu uses tables for aligning UI widgets but undoes the table display on narrow view ports using media queries, so the media query rationale isn't strong, either
  230. # [10:25] <hsivonen> *validator.nu
  231. # [10:26] <hsivonen> all in all, I think the ISSUE 130 counter-CP is rather weak in its argumentation
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  234. # [10:58] <annevk> dglazkov?
  235. # [10:58] <annevk> hmm
  236. # [10:58] <annevk> "pseudo attribute" link is broken
  237. # [11:01] <annevk> krijnh, hahaha, meer twittergedichten graag
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  244. # [11:47] <annevk> fyi, for everyone with a html5.org account, it's prolly a good idea to change passwords and check files
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  301. # [14:25] <jacobolus> anyone know if in safari there's a keyboard shortcut for clicking a link that I currently have some text selected in? IIRC I could do that in Camino a few years ago, using enter or something: helpful when doing a search within the page
  302. # [14:26] <jacobolus> TabAtkins: sorry to be so slow at it, but I'm actually plugging away at the "perceptual attributes" gradient editor thing mentioned a month ago -- one of those bit-by-bit sort of projects. I have CIECAM02 implemented in JS in forward/reverse directions, and have started the code for graphing the values of J (lightness) C (chroma) h (hue) along a gradient
  303. # [14:29] <jacobolus> also, people on www-style don't seem to understand premultiplied alpha very well
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  308. # [14:49] <Evet> do you know a common equivalent of XUL?
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  325. # [16:23] <Ms2ger> Hmm, I get an email about rel=up and Thunderbird thinks it's spam. I wonder why that is
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  393. # [19:09] <dglazkov> annevk: thanks for pointing out the URL type
  394. # [19:09] <dglazkov> tyope
  395. # [19:09] <dglazkov> arg
  396. # [19:09] <dglazkov> typo
  397. # [19:09] <dglazkov> :)
  398. # [19:10] <annevk> heh, good to know you read the logs
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  400. # [19:13] <dglazkov> I usually don't, but I started seeing them in referrals
  401. # [19:13] * bga_|away is now known as bga_
  402. # [19:14] <krijnh> Yes! Finally my name is in his referrals \o/
  403. # [19:17] <dglazkov> whoa. you're a real person?
  404. # [19:18] <krijnh> Of course
  405. # [19:18] <Philip`> He is a construct of the cabal
  406. # [19:18] <krijnh> The backbone actually! ;)
  407. # [19:19] <Dashiva> He's represents the proletariat that carries the rest of us on their backs
  408. # [19:19] <Dashiva> -'s
  409. # [19:22] <dglazkov> I always assumed you're some Hixie's imaginary moniker, like, well, hixie or damowmow
  410. # [19:22] <Dashiva> Blasphemy, Hixie is his True Name
  411. # [19:23] <dglazkov> oh. Then apparently I know nothing about this world.
  412. # [19:23] <krijnh> -_-
  413. # [19:24] <Dashiva> I made a user script to create next/prev buttons, krijnh
  414. # [19:24] <Dashiva> So now I won't bug you anymore
  415. # [19:24] <krijnh> You bugged me?
  416. # [19:24] <krijnh> Hm
  417. # [19:26] <Ms2ger> Share!
  418. # [19:29] <bga_> omg https://developer.mozilla.org/en/using_files_from_web_applications#Using_hidden_file_input_elements_using_the_click%28%29_method
  419. # [19:29] <bga_> IE backs
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  514. # [22:38] <sephr> Why can't you adopt doctypes from a clone of the current document view into the current document view? This code fails: var doc = document.cloneNode(true); /*remove all children from document...*/ document.adoptNode(doc.doctype)
  515. # [22:38] <sephr> document.adoptNode(doc.documentElement) works fine though
  516. # [22:39] <sephr> (you can try that in any non-webkit browser including IE9)
  517. # [22:40] <sephr> also, shouldn't using the document.styleSheets API trigger mutation events?
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