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  19. # [00:55] <Hixie> benschwarz: ping
  20. # [00:56] <benschwarz> pong
  21. # [00:56] <benschwarz> Whats up?
  22. # [00:56] <benschwarz> @Hixie
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  24. # [01:01] <Hixie> hey
  25. # [01:01] <Hixie> sorry, been out for a few days
  26. # [01:01] * alystair nods
  27. # [01:01] <Hixie> launch looks good
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  29. # [01:01] <Hixie> you should do a blog post about it on the whatwg blog, get some more traction on it
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  79. # [03:20] <eachwon> gonna repeat my question from #html here, belongs here really
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  81. # [03:22] <eachwon> the meta "X-UA-Compatible" doesn't validate, it's only for IE as far as i know so can i put it in conditional comments and will it work
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  84. # [03:28] <Philip`> eachwon: Since this a standards channel, the correct answer is that you shouldn't use X-UA-Compatible at all - you should just use <!doctype html> and have the same content work in all browsers without any browser-specific hacks
  85. # [03:29] <zewt> not much of a real-world answer :)
  86. # [03:30] <Philip`> Also, you don't have to pass the validator - its goal is to help you improve the quality of your pages, and hiding browser-specific hacks inside browser-specific comments so that the validator can't see them is not improving the quality of your pages
  87. # [03:30] <eachwon> Philip, thanks, great answer because i didn't realise this was non-standard, starting from html5 boilerplate here. Doesn't really solve my problem though :)
  88. # [03:30] <eachwon> was trying the htaccess approach but server doesn't allow headers
  89. # [03:30] <zewt> eachwon: I generally treat validators as lint tools--to help make sure I'm not doing anything nonstandard *intentionally*, but bending over backwards to try to quiet the validator in every case is generally not a useful goal
  90. # [03:30] <paul_irish> eachwon: http://groups.google.com/group/html5boilerplate/browse_thread/thread/6d1b6b152aca8ed2
  91. # [03:31] <zewt> er, *unintentionally*
  92. # [03:31] <zewt> (always nice to typo an emphasized word in a way that inverts its meaning)
  93. # [03:32] <eachwon> paul_irish : nice !
  94. # [03:33] <paul_irish> eachwon: so basically yeah.. what zewt said. feel free to use it as a tool, but at the end of the day, what happens in the browser trumps what a validator says
  95. # [03:33] <paul_irish> and i would recommend keeping it in, regardless of the validation result
  96. # [03:35] <eachwon> great, thx for the info guys
  97. # [03:35] <paul_irish> np
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  186. # [10:57] <annevk> Hixie, fyi, developers.whatwg.org got *a lot* of traction
  187. # [10:57] <annevk> Hixie, at least on twitter; maybe mainstream media will report on it once there's a "press release"...
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  394. # [23:42] <Hixie> annevk: yeah, i spoke to ben about it in /msg
  395. # [23:42] <Hixie> annevk: we can totally get even more once we have a blog post about it, i think
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