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  15. # [00:43] <annevk> Hixie, maybe Web Applications 1.0 needs something similar: https://bitbucket.org/ms2ger/dom-core/changeset/2ecda50e4540
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  22. # [01:11] <annevk> well look at that
  23. # [01:11] <annevk> my feed feels to validate
  24. # [01:11] <annevk> I mean, it's non well-formed
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  26. # [01:12] <AryehGregor> Neat, I didn't realize that approximating a Gaussian by box blurs works because of the central limit theorem.
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  57. # [02:45] <yuhong> I just read Arjun Ray's articles on how browsers like Viola and Arena were ahead of Netscape back in the mid 1990s.
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  66. # [03:02] <d4t4ch17d> hello
  67. # [03:03] <zewt> someone sure is channelling the mid 90s
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  69. # [03:09] <d4t4ch17d> late 90s
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  107. # [06:32] * MikeSmith is looking for a spec with a WebIDL interface definition that includes a definition of its constructor
  108. # [06:32] <MikeSmith> heycam: you around?
  109. # [06:33] <MikeSmith> wanted to ask you about the above
  110. # [06:33] <MikeSmith> trying to figure out what's the proper way to define a constructor
  111. # [06:33] <heycam> MikeSmith, hey. just about to head out for dinner in a minute...
  112. # [06:33] <MikeSmith> ok
  113. # [06:33] <MikeSmith> no rush
  114. # [06:34] <heycam> MikeSmith, XHR probably does
  115. # [06:34] <MikeSmith> ping me some time later if you got a minute
  116. # [06:34] <MikeSmith> ok
  117. # [06:34] <MikeSmith> will look there
  118. # [06:34] <MikeSmith> thanks
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  121. # [06:36] <iamjarvo> hey guys how's it going. i am trying to blur text using canvas. any tips?
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  128. # [06:59] <zewt> gar, painful inconsistency with mouse events when more than one button is pressed at once...
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  149. # [07:49] <aho> i'd like to see #c -> #ccc and #ba -> #bababa
  150. # [07:49] <aho> who's with me? :>
  151. # [07:50] <zewt> if by with you you mean wants to stab you in the neck, you might find something of a crowd :P
  152. # [07:50] <aho> you can never have too much enterprise and soulcrusher gray
  153. # [07:50] <aho> <:
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  155. # [07:54] <gsnedders> aho: web compat dictates otherwise.
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  175. # [09:03] <zewt> the fun workarounds of interop failures: webkit (or at least Chrome) doesn't fire click events when button != 0, so I'm having to dispatch them manually from mouseup : |
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  186. # [09:50] <abarth> zewt: that's something that's changed moderately recently
  187. # [09:50] <abarth> zewt: it's an example of trying to chase web site expectations
  188. # [09:50] <abarth> :(
  189. # [09:50] <zewt> well, i definitely agree with the spec that click should fire for all buttons
  190. # [09:51] <abarth> the problem is that causes a bad user experience on some web sites
  191. # [09:51] <abarth> sites register for click assuming it's left-button only
  192. # [09:51] <abarth> and then they do the wrong thing on a middle click
  193. # [09:51] <zewt> there are some things you can only do from onclick and not mouseup--at least with FF's behavior, not sure if it's to spec or not
  194. # [09:51] <abarth> e.g., open a new window in the foreground instead of the background
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  212. # [11:11] <erlehmann> i am pleased. http://www.dradio.de/wir/ogg/
  213. # [11:11] <erlehmann> “the audio element is also available in safari, but the vendor does not support ogg”
  214. # [11:11] <erlehmann> hehehe
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  236. # [14:46] <jeromegn> I'd be interested to see a specification for efficient bi-directional communications :) I saw JSend this morning (http://labs.omniti.com/labs/jsend) but it only talks about the response, I'd love a nice spec for the request too. Without HTTP, websocket is free to be used however, but that leads me to wondering what's an efficient way to do so.
  237. # [14:46] <jeromegn> any pointers would be appreciated :)
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  267. # [17:06] <iamjarvo> is it possible to blu text using canvas? example like this http://cl.ly/1C0S0z2O091f1M3P1Q1V
  268. # [17:07] <iamjarvo> blur*
  269. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> insertAdjacentElement, really?
  270. # [17:09] <Philip`> iamjarvo: You can do a simple Gaussian blur using shadows (draw the text off-screen and offset the shadow back onto the screen)
  271. # [17:09] <Philip`> For anything more complex you probably need to implement the blur yourself using getImageData/putImageData
  272. # [17:10] <iamjarvo> Philip`: so for your first choice would I need two versions of the same string?
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  274. # [17:14] <Philip`> iamjarvo: You just do http://goo.gl/AlcpV
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  276. # [17:18] <iamjarvo> Philip`: thanks playing with it to see if i can do it
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  278. # [17:23] <iamjarvo> Philip`: thanks! it works. so if i were to want to add a hover to change the color is it true that it would have to be redrawn each time? how does this work if there were 100 words in the box, i would imagine it would get really slow
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  280. # [17:27] <Ms2ger> You could have two canvases, I guess
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