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  99. # [06:11] <zcorpan> nessy: http://simon.html5.org/sandbox/bookmarklets/reveal-comments
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  127. # [07:42] <zcorpan> nobody fancy writing an april fools blog post this year?
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  129. # [07:51] <hsivonen> zcorpan: I retweeted your tweet as WHATWG
  130. # [07:51] <zcorpan> hsivonen: thanks
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  132. # [07:53] <tw2113> i'm not that creative lately
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  145. # [08:33] <hsivonen> Boo. Sam presents Open Graph Protocol as RDFa to students: http://intertwingly.net/slides/2011/unc-inls-520/html5-6
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  147. # [08:37] <othermaciej> also has an inaccurate claim about violating http
  148. # [08:39] <othermaciej> many of the "violates" statements are… creative
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  163. # [10:00] <foolip> http://diveintomark.org/archives/2004/07/06/nfc is still funny
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  174. # [10:54] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: You around?
  175. # [10:54] <MikeSmith> yeah
  176. # [10:56] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: So, thinking about travel plans, it's probably easiest to meet with either myself or jgraham, and not both :)
  177. # [10:57] <zcorpan> MikeSmith & (gsnedders ^ jgraham)
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  179. # [10:58] <jgraham> gsnedders: Now people will think we are the same person
  180. # [10:58] <MikeSmith> heh
  181. # [10:59] <zcorpan> jgraham: stop talking to yourself
  182. # [10:59] <MikeSmith> :D
  183. # [10:59] <MikeSmith> I'll talk to plh and see what he thinks
  184. # [11:00] <hsivonen> if plh thinks gsnedders and jgraham are the same person?
  185. # [11:00] <MikeSmith> heh
  186. # [11:00] <MikeSmith> about my travel plans
  187. # [11:01] <MikeSmith> the idea was that since I'll be traveling to Europe in May anyway, it would be good to try to d some face-to-face discussion about details of the testing effort
  188. # [11:02] <jgraham> Yes, I think that is a good idea
  189. # [11:03] <MikeSmith> so I'll figure something out
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  192. # [11:03] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: You could always come to Glasgow/Edinburgh ;P
  193. # [11:04] <MikeSmith> yeah
  194. # [11:05] <MikeSmith> it's not out of the realm of possibility that I could go there and Linköping too in May
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  196. # [11:05] <MikeSmith> just a small matter of money
  197. # [11:05] <MikeSmith> and timing
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  199. # [11:08] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: Basically prior to the 20th, excepting the 13th (and likely the 12th) and 16th, I can probably take a day out
  200. # [11:09] <MikeSmith> ok
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  203. # [11:11] <zcorpan> xkcd has nice pseudo-3d effects today
  204. # [11:11] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: Was there anyone apart frm myself/jgraham you wanted in that discussion, BTW?
  205. # [11:12] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: no, just had in mind the two of you, since you've been most actively involved in the HTML WG Testing TF
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  207. # [11:16] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: The other point I was going to make was that it isn't impossible I'll end up in Tokyo first week of June
  208. # [11:16] <MikeSmith> huh?
  209. # [11:16] <MikeSmith> really?
  210. # [11:16] <MikeSmith> that'd be great
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  212. # [11:17] <gsnedders> MikeSmith: CSS WG F2F
  213. # [11:17] <gsnedders> I really need to work out when I intend on leaving Glasgow before I really commit to anything, though
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  215. # [11:18] <zcorpan> idea for an april fools: whatwg has decided to rename HTML again, this time to SGML (with the XML version being called XSGML)
  216. # [11:19] <Peter-> I like XSGML, haha
  217. # [11:19] <jgraham> Super Good MArkup Language and eXtra Super Good Markup Language?
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  220. # [11:19] <jgraham> s/A/a/
  221. # [11:20] <zcorpan> something like that :) feel free to write a post on the blog, and claim that the spec hasn't been updated yet because it's waiting for Hixie to regen the spec
  222. # [11:20] <zcorpan> or maybe Hixie can actually rename the spec
  223. # [11:20] <jgraham> That would be much better indeed
  224. # [11:21] <zcorpan> Hixie: ^
  225. # [11:22] <zcorpan> perfect timing with w3c making their html5 logo official
  226. # [11:22] <zcorpan> can add some reference to that as well
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  230. # [11:25] <zcorpan> and take a step further with not using versions by stop using version control and just updating the spec, like the good old days
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  232. # [11:30] <hsivonen> jgraham: where can I find the legalese for submitting tests to w3c-test.org?
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  234. # [11:33] <jgraham> hsivonen: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing/Submission/
  235. # [11:35] <hsivonen> jgraham: there's a company name for vendors other than Mozilla but then there's DavidBaron. Should I use Mozilla or HenriSivonen?
  236. # [11:35] <jgraham> hsivonen: I would use Mozilla, but honestly I don't think it matters
  237. # [11:35] <hsivonen> jgraham: OK.
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  310. # [15:33] <zcorpan> Hixie: yt?
  311. # [15:35] <micheil> Hixie: yt? (as well)
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  314. # [15:38] * jgraham wonders if Hixie has suddently become the sort of person thet gets up at 6:30am
  315. # [15:39] <micheil> jgraham: do you think it'd make sense to have WebSocket objects have a connect() method?
  316. # [15:39] <micheil> so, if the connect gets closed, rather then creating a whole new websocket object, you could just call ws.connect()
  317. # [15:39] <micheil> where ws is a WebSocket object
  318. # [15:41] <zcorpan> micheil: what's the problem with creating a new object?
  319. # [15:41] <micheil> more memory allocation, object creation, etc
  320. # [15:41] <jgraham> micheil: It's not obviously a bad idea
  321. # [15:41] <jgraham> Although I think the efficiency argument is pretty bogus
  322. # [15:41] <micheil> true, modern computers have plenty of memory, etc, but I think it'd be a nice api to have.
  323. # [15:42] <jgraham> (since presumably applications will have ~1 websocket object and the time to init it will be a tiny fraction of the time to set up the connection)
  324. # [15:43] <micheil> but then if you have a connection interruption, you get disconnected
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  332. # [16:03] <micheil> jgraham: what would the appropriate channels be for suggesting / requesting features to the W3C WebSocket API?
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  335. # [16:03] <jgraham> micheil: You could try public-webapps
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  337. # [16:03] <jgraham> The mailing list
  338. # [16:04] <jgraham> Or the whatwg list
  339. # [16:04] <micheil> is that with much optimism?
  340. # [16:04] <jgraham> You can try it with as much optimisim as you like
  341. # [16:05] <jgraham> In either case your input will be considered
  342. # [16:05] <zcorpan> Hixie: i've sent you an email with a blog entry
  343. # [16:05] <micheil> well, are suggestions actually taken seriously from people that are not within the webapps group?
  344. # [16:05] <jgraham> Yes
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  481. # [21:35] <zcorpan> so Hixie can't edit the spec today. maybe i should blog anyway
  482. # [21:35] <zcorpan> how do i log in to the blog again?
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  487. # [21:39] <zcorpan> http://simon.html5.org/temp/sgml-is-the-new-html.txt - anyone feel free to post that on the blog, and edit as you see fit
  488. # [21:40] <zcorpan> nn
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