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  32. # [00:43] <Philip`> Google result snippet says: "Current AMD64 implementations support a physical address space of up to 248 bytes of RAM"
  33. # [00:43] <Philip`> I wish it preserved the semantics of <sup>
  34. # [00:44] <jamesr> 248 bytes should be enough for everyone
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  38. # [00:47] <zewt> heh
  39. # [00:49] <zewt> i have to use a stylesheet to remove superscripts from wikipedia, since they're overused to the point where it makes things unreadable... i guess I can limit that to footnotes since they do have a class set for those
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  228. # [16:30] <jacobolus> using the canvas API, is there any way to make an arbitrary shape via a bunch of transformations, but then have the stroke transform/scale be relative to pixels?
  229. # [16:31] <jacobolus> e.g. if I want to stroke an oval with a 5px wide outline, it'd be nice if the line could have uniform thickness
  230. # [16:32] <jacobolus> instead of the stroke getting distorted along with the shape
  231. # [16:33] <tomasf> not afaik. you'd have to scale the line width yourself to compensate. 1/transformScale, I guess
  232. # [16:34] <Philip`> You could set up the transform, draw the shape, apply the inverse transform, then stroke it, I think
  233. # [16:34] <zewt> tomasf: doesn't help if you have a non-1:1 scale on the object you're drawing and then that scale applies to the stroke as well, i think
  234. # [16:34] <tomasf> zewt: yep
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  238. # [16:43] <zewt> just resetting the transform to identity seems to work: http://zewt.org/~glenn/stroke.html
  239. # [16:43] <zewt> simpler version of what philip said, i think
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  242. # [16:49] <jacobolus> Philip`: I tried doing setTransform(1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0) and that seemed to make the whole thing stop working
  243. # [16:49] <jacobolus> zewt: oh, hmm
  244. # [16:49] <jacobolus> maybe I just put a typo in someplace or something
  245. # [16:49] <zewt> 1,0,0,1,0,0, not 1,0,0,0,1,0
  246. # [16:50] <zewt> the argument order for that function is odd
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  248. # [16:50] <zewt> (column-major, rather unintuitive)
  249. # [16:51] <jacobolus> oh, I see
  250. # [16:51] <jacobolus> that is weird
  251. # [16:51] <zewt> i take it stroke is really just transforming the line width by the transform to figure out the resulting width and then doing the actual operation in screen coordinates
  252. # [16:51] <jacobolus> I'm somewhat annoyed that these don't let people use a 3x3 matrix, but that ship has sailed I guess :)
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  254. # [16:52] <zewt> it wouldn't have, if it was row-major :)
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  256. # [16:53] <jacobolus> heh
  257. # [16:53] <zewt> two ships that sailed together
  258. # [16:53] <jacobolus> maybe they could just order it M00, M10, M20, M21, M11, M01, M02, M12, M22, for maximal confusion
  259. # [16:54] <jacobolus> "snake order"
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  262. # [16:55] <jacobolus> great, that seems to work
  263. # [16:55] <jacobolus> zewt: thanks
  264. # [16:55] <jacobolus> Philip`, tomasf: thanks to you too :)
  265. # [16:57] <jacobolus> so now I have something like http://pastie.textmate.org/private/wgeqzabrzkghnsphwydsa
  266. # [16:58] <Philip`> zewt: It's not just multiplying the line width - you can have non-uniform scales or skews that affect the stroke
  267. # [16:58] <zewt> i don't even know what language this is, heh
  268. # [16:58] <jacobolus> zewt: coffeescript
  269. # [16:58] <jacobolus> :)
  270. # [16:58] <zewt> "obscure fadscript" :)
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  272. # [16:59] <jacobolus> zewt: output, http://pastie.textmate.org/private/g09sud4d8ewurqptyialuq
  273. # [16:59] <jacobolus> zewt: less and less obscure all the time, and in my (few weeks) experience, a joy to work with
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  278. # [17:10] <jacobolus> that the path shape is set according to the original transformation but the stroke distorted by the stroke-time transformation allows some interesting stuff
  279. # [17:11] <jacobolus> for example, in conjunction with round joins and line ends, can be used to have the stroke shape be an arbitrary ellipse
  280. # [17:11] <jacobolus> "caligraphic" style
  281. # [17:12] <jacobolus> er, *calligraphic
  282. # [17:15] <jacobolus> is all the "focus management' stuff in the canvas 2d context spec implemented widely?
  283. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> Not at all
  284. # [17:15] <jacobolus> one of those "someday" things?
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  286. # [17:16] <Ms2ger> I hear there's an HTMLWG decision upcoming about it
  287. # [17:19] <smaug____> focus management in canvas?
  288. # [17:19] <smaug____> or a11y?
  289. # [17:19] <jacobolus> smaug____: http://dev.w3.org/html5/2dcontext/#focus-management
  290. # [17:19] <jacobolus> oh
  291. # [17:19] <smaug____> oh, huh. yet more to review
  292. # [17:20] <jacobolus> trying to draw focus rings in canvas seems like somewhat silly idea to me
  293. # [17:21] <zewt> yeah, it's not like native focus styles apply to curves, and many of them aren't simply dotted lines around objects like links
  294. # [17:22] <zewt> giving UA some control over it isn't a bad idea, but i doubt there's much it could actually do other than pick a stroke style
  295. # [17:23] <smaug____> drawFocusRing looks pretty useless to me
  296. # [17:23] <zewt> heard something about that being simplified, but i havn't been following canvas stuff
  297. # [17:24] <jacobolus> Hixie: by the way, CIECAM02 implementation https://github.com/jrus/chromatist
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  318. # [18:33] <AryehGregor> There is a link on a page to a PDF I want to read, but it goes to http://10.58.170.5/.
  319. # [18:33] <AryehGregor> I mean, seriously?
  320. # [18:34] <AryehGregor> This is a public website: http://www1.cbs.gov.il/reader/?MIval=cw_usr_view_SHTML&ID=576
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  327. # [18:50] <zewt> the "worksforme" testing methodology
  328. # [18:53] <Philip`> I like how pressing shift+down several times in Opera on a Google search results page causes it to select the Google logo image, and then to begin scrolling down within the image so you see a load of random icons in its place
  329. # [18:54] * Philip` wonders if there will ever be non-hacky ways to do spriting
  330. # [18:54] <zewt> "no hacks to see here, folks"
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  421. # Session Close: Mon Apr 18 00:00:00 2011

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