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  296. # [12:12] <krijnh> O hai
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  304. # [12:26] <dhx1> <link rel="tag" ... /> - there doesn't seem to be much information in the spec on how the href attribute is handled. Does the last word of the href attribute become the tag name? (as per http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag)
  305. # [12:30] <annevk> I think it is invalid for <link>
  306. # [12:30] <annevk> or should be
  307. # [12:33] <dhx1> annevk: source is http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#link-type-tag
  308. # [12:35] <annevk> oh sorry, the URL is the tag
  309. # [12:35] <annevk> my bad
  310. # [12:36] <dhx1> so in the case of href="http://example.com/example/blue", is the tag "blue" and the page that describes that tag "http://example.com/example/blue"?
  311. # [12:37] <annevk> the tag is "http://example.com/example/blue"
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  313. # [12:39] <dhx1> so a client parsing these tags would probably need to load each URL, grab the <title> of the page (or similar) and display that as the tag name? seems a little vague at the moment
  314. # [12:40] <annevk> the tag is the link
  315. # [12:40] <annevk> what you display is up to you
  316. # [12:43] <dhx1> ok, thanks for clarifying
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  323. # [12:56] <foolip> hsivonen, what do you make of this RDFa/Microdata TF?
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  334. # [14:11] <smaug____> how do I activate an accesskey on Opera/Linux
  335. # [14:11] <smaug____> alt+shift+<key> doesn't seem to work
  336. # [14:11] <Philip`> Shift+escape, I think
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  338. # [14:12] <smaug____> huh
  339. # [14:12] <smaug____> but works
  340. # [14:12] <smaug____> thanks
  341. # [14:28] <annevk> Can you also download Google web fonts or is it solely for use with their API?
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  359. # [15:37] <bga_> gsnedders hi
  360. # [15:38] <bga_> my friend have found bug in opera 11.50 http://jsfiddle.net/XV8AU/
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  363. # [15:40] <bga_> in 9.64 - ok
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  368. # [15:47] <annevk> so per HTTP the following is invalid
  369. # [15:47] <annevk> Content-Type:text/html;
  370. # [15:48] <annevk> I doubt however anyone follows that
  371. # [15:48] <annevk> maybe I should raise an issue on that
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  384. # [16:41] <LoneStar99> anyone here which can take a look at a canvas? and tell me what is worn?
  385. # [16:41] <LoneStar99> wrong?
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  390. # [16:47] <LoneStar99> why is this image so bloated? http://bobc.in/im/drop/cc/tp/bcqo-0
  391. # [16:48] <annevk> your canvas is 150*300 and then you resized that to style="width:768px;height:1024px" with CSS
  392. # [16:48] <annevk> only natural that it will look odd
  393. # [16:49] <annevk> the width/height attributes of <canvas> are meaningful and set the <canvas> drawing area, use them ;)
  394. # [16:49] <annevk> whereas the CSS properties merely set how big the <canvas> should appear on screen
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  397. # [16:50] <timeless> [15:28] <AryehGregor> It would actually simplify things if I could assume that a selection must be either wholly editable or not. But it doesn't have
  398. # [16:50] <timeless> aryehgregor: as a user, i want to be able to copy what i see, i shouldn't be blocked from copying stuff just because every second letter is content editable...
  399. # [16:50] <timeless> zewt: which mail did gmail say might not have been sent by me? all of my mail is actually sent by timeless.bmo2, but gmail should know and trust that....
  400. # [16:50] <timeless> tabatkins: if i'm on metered bandwidth your sites which prefetch on mouse hover are incredibly expensive....
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  418. # [17:10] <LoneStar99> annevk: how do you know my canvas is 150*300?
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  420. # [17:10] <annevk> because that's the default if you do not set anything
  421. # [17:10] <LoneStar99> where do I set them?
  422. # [17:11] <annevk> using the width and height attributes
  423. # [17:11] <annevk> I said that earlier
  424. # [17:12] <LoneStar99> ok i understand, style:width:xx;height:yy; will not do the trick then...
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  426. # [17:15] <annevk> they size the canvas, not the drawing area
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  434. # [17:31] <LoneStar99> oh ok thanks
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  440. # [17:48] <LoneStar99> annevk: i swear nobody every answers a question at #html5 damn mob controlled
  441. # [17:50] <Philip`> LoneStar99: HTML5 is obsolete anyway, we've moved on to unversioned HTML now
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  443. # [17:51] <Philip`> Let the #html5 mob wallow in their outdatedness if they want
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  445. # [17:53] <LoneStar99> Philip`: right on
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  448. # [18:01] <Kingdutch> What's wrong with HTML5? :O
  449. # [18:01] <Kingdutch> It's only like just here
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  452. # [18:02] <wilhelm> It's so 2007!
  453. # [18:03] <annevk> Kingdutch, read up: http://blog.whatwg.org/html-is-the-new-html5
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  455. # [18:08] <smaug____> selection handling with :before and :after is... "interesting" in Gecko and Webkit
  456. # [18:08] <smaug____> AryehGregor: are you perhaps spec'ing how selecting text in :before and :after should work?
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  458. # [18:11] <annevk> when the render and DOM tree collapse is no fun
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  461. # [18:24] <Kingdutch> Ah right ok
  462. # [18:24] <Kingdutch> Hence the <!document html> instead of html5
  463. # [18:24] <Kingdutch> I want to make something that can replace HTML
  464. # [18:24] <Kingdutch> Or well, more the thing of HTML JS and PHP
  465. # [18:25] <Kingdutch> Hence why the prototype would still in the end be serving HTML and JS
  466. # [18:25] <Kingdutch> My biggest problem is a lack of starting point =|
  467. # [18:25] <Kingdutch> But I guess this is not the right channel to discuss that
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  470. # [18:51] <erlehmann> Kingdutch, if you write “<!document HTML>”, something is broken.
  471. # [18:52] <erlehmann> also, replace HTML. haha. hahahaha. ha.
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  475. # [19:02] <Kingdutch> I meant <!doctype html>
  476. # [19:02] <Kingdutch> I was close :O
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  548. # [22:06] <annevk-cloud> WHATWG with summer recess?
  549. # [22:07] <Ms2ger> 'murricans are out celebrating
  550. # [22:07] <annevk-cloud> Oh right, their freedom and shit
  551. # [22:08] <annevk-cloud> Aren't they like country eighty-something on the freedom-index?
  552. # [22:08] <Ms2ger> Sounds rather high
  553. # [22:10] <annevk-cloud> I can only find http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#2010_rankings so fast and there they are actually number seventeen
  554. # [22:11] <annevk-cloud> Mind you, .18 away from flawed democracy
  555. # [22:11] <Ms2ger> Meh, data
  556. # [22:12] * Ms2ger prefers uninformed trolling
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  558. # [22:15] <annevk-cloud> Will you come on Google+?
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  560. # [22:16] <zewt> antisocial networking, nobody is allowed in
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  564. # [22:22] <annevk-cloud> A, reddit explains what is going on outside the US: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnt6hbZlwD1qadvboo1_500.png
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  566. # [22:32] <karlcow> I really wonder how they define democracies
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  575. # [22:55] <Dashiva> karlcow: Go read the report, it explains it in detail
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  577. # [23:02] <karlcow> Dashiva just the idea of democracy and King doesn't compute with me… French education :)
  578. # [23:05] <Dashiva> Well, much the same way a dictator saying "We're a democracy and staging fake elections" doesn't make a country a democracy, having a person with the title king doesn't necessarily make a country not a democracy
  579. # [23:05] <Dashiva> (Move that second " over four words)
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  581. # [23:06] <Kingdutch> to the left
  582. # [23:06] <Kingdutch> you mean
  583. # [23:06] <Kingdutch> Cuz I was moving it to the right
  584. # [23:06] <Kingdutch> Which makes no sense at all
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  587. # [23:15] <smaug____> menu/command handling needs to be re-designed, or at least cleaned up
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