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  57. # [01:40] <Hixie> anyone around who can talk to me about DOMException and RangeException?
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  70. # [02:09] <Hixie> any DOM Core editors around?
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  79. # [02:39] <__bruno> is there any mature model for reusable components in pure html (client side)? or some binding language, like XBL (used on firefox) ?
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  317. # Session Start: Wed Sep 14 12:21:28 2011
  318. # Session Ident: #whatwg
  319. # [12:21] * Now talking in #whatwg
  320. # [12:21] * Topic is 'WHATWG: http://www.whatwg.org/ -- logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ -- stats: http://gavinsharp.com/irc/whatwg.html -- Please leave your sense of logic at the door, thanks!'
  321. # [12:21] * Set by annevk42 on Mon Oct 19 23:03:06
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  323. # [12:46] <espadrine> annevk: is there a way to set an element's ID in DOM4?
  324. # [12:47] <annevk> ele.id ?
  325. # [12:48] <espadrine> I was reading the HTML5 spec, and I trode upon this part:
  326. # [12:48] <espadrine> "This specification doesn't preclude an element having multiple IDs, if other mechanisms (e.g. DOM Core methods) can set an element's ID in a way that doesn't conflict with the id attribute."
  327. # [12:48] <espadrine> Is that meaningful?
  328. # [12:48] <annevk> no please file a bug on that
  329. # [12:49] <espadrine> ok
  330. # [12:49] <annevk> thanks
  331. # [12:52] <woef> The spec is real good for brushing up on crazy and impossible English words.
  332. # [12:52] <annevk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-script-coord/2011JulSep/0420.html o_O
  333. # [12:54] <annevk> I guess only complements http://infrequently.org/2011/09/google-the-future-of-javascript/ about Web IDL being an invention of the devil
  334. # [12:55] <annevk> espadrine, http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14145 is not quite what I had in mind
  335. # [12:55] <annevk> espadrine, if that's your bug
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  337. # [12:59] <espadrine> It is.
  338. # [12:59] <espadrine> I added more specifics in a comment just now.
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  340. # [13:01] <espadrine> What did you have in mind?
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  343. # [13:19] <annevk> that it removes that note
  344. # [13:20] <annevk> because that change is not going to happen :)
  345. # [13:20] <annevk> there's already id attributes with spaces in them
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  347. # [13:25] <espadrine> annevk, as far as I can tell, id attributes with spaces in them doesn't work.
  348. # [13:26] <espadrine> Maybe I am wrong, but I tried href'ing to an id with spaces in them.
  349. # [13:27] <aho> http://mothereffingcssescapes.com/
  350. # [13:27] <aho> you can use all kinds of characters if you escape them
  351. # [13:27] <espadrine> aho: not a space
  352. # [13:28] <aho> right
  353. # [13:28] <aho> thought an unicode escape would work there, but it doesnt
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  356. # [13:30] <espadrine> aho: as funny as it is, here, a unicode space should be accepted.
  357. # [13:30] <espadrine> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-microsyntaxes.html#space-character
  358. # [13:31] <espadrine> eg, 0x00A0 "No-break space" should be accepted, and it isn't.
  359. # [13:32] <aho> ah... id=" foo" and #\20 foo{...} does indeed work in firefox
  360. # [13:33] <aho> so does #\ foo{...}
  361. # [13:35] <aho> document.getElementById(' foo') also works
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  363. # [13:36] <espadrine> well? href="# foo" doesn't
  364. # [13:36] <espadrine> but indeed, aho, how very odd!
  365. # [13:36] <aho> how about href="#%20foo" ?
  366. # [13:37] <espadrine> aho: no
  367. # [13:37] <espadrine> that would have somehow made sense, but...
  368. # [13:37] <aho> works for me
  369. # [13:37] <aho> with firefox anyways
  370. # [13:37] <espadrine> (at least, I tested in chrome)
  371. # [13:41] <espadrine> aho: wait, it doesn't work for me in firefox!
  372. # [13:41] <espadrine> oh, no.
  373. # [13:41] <espadrine> actually, href="#hello%20world" doesn't work, but href="#%20world" does.
  374. # [13:42] <espadrine> (for ids equal to "hello world" and " world" respectively)
  375. # [13:44] <espadrine> ...and href="#hello%20world" works in Chrome.
  376. # [13:47] <aho> http://jsfiddle.net/TUpZZ/1/
  377. # [13:47] <aho> works also fine in chrome 15.0.874.12 dev-m
  378. # [13:48] * aho updates opera... :>
  379. # [13:49] <aho> yep
  380. # [13:49] <aho> opera works fine too
  381. # [13:51] <aho> http://jsfiddle.net/TUpZZ/2/ <- with #hello\ world
  382. # [13:53] <espadrine> My bad...
  383. # [13:53] <espadrine> http://jsfiddle.net/TUpZZ/3/
  384. # [13:54] <annevk> espadrine, getElementById("this works") #this%20works
  385. # [13:55] <aho> #3 also seems to work just fine
  386. # [13:56] <espadrine> yes, my previous test (which told me it didn't work) must have been wrong.
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  396. # [14:50] <zcorpan> do we want the following to be equivalent? input.setCustomValidity(null) and input.setCustomValidity("")
  397. # [14:51] <annevk> don't think so
  398. # [14:52] <zcorpan> k
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  410. # [15:59] <AryehGregor> $ uptime
  411. # [15:59] <AryehGregor> 09:53:32 up 92 days, 16:12, 16 users, load average: 0.46, 0.47, 0.36
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  415. # [16:01] <Philip`> The 'uptime' program is a major security risk on any Linux system
  416. # [16:02] <Philip`> since it encourages people to keep their machines up for as long as possible, so they can show off their big uptime numbers
  417. # [16:02] <Philip`> and therefore discourages them from rebooting which is necessary for security updates to kernels or various other applications to take effect
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  422. # [16:09] <jcranmer> there's a bash.org quote where someone has an uptime of over 5 years
  423. # [16:10] <jcranmer> and is trying to find something for a 2.0 kernel or something like that
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  426. # [16:20] <linclark> i've been working on microdata support in Drupal
  427. # [16:20] <linclark> just posted a screencast giving a preview of the functionality, thought some folks in this channel might be interested
  428. # [16:20] <linclark> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbkusrNmS6U
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  436. # [16:35] <aho> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/the-canvas-element.html#compositing <- "lighter" isn't a porter-duff op. just sayin. :>
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  452. # [17:10] <annevk> http://blog.whatwg.org/weekly-touch
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  459. # [17:16] <zewt> a fascinating url
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  464. # [17:20] <MikeSmith> linclark: just watched it
  465. # [17:20] <MikeSmith> looks great
  466. # [17:20] <MikeSmith> though I don't know anything about Drupal
  467. # [17:21] <MikeSmith> your Galway accent it great to hear, though
  468. # [17:21] <linclark> MikeSmith: ha, thanks... it's more of a northern virginia accent
  469. # [17:21] <MikeSmith> heh
  470. # [17:22] <MikeSmith> yeah, I figured somewhere other than Galway
  471. # [17:23] <MikeSmith> anyway, fwiw, it's great to see the work you're doing on that
  472. # [17:23] <linclark> thanks, it's working out well... I think we'll be able to build a cool Docs system on top of it
  473. # [17:23] <linclark> Drupal has a problem that people post tutorials on their blogs, which makes them hard to find
  474. # [17:24] <linclark> so I'm working on adding a little structured data to the posts on Drupal Planet so that we can have targeted search for those tutorials
  475. # [17:24] <MikeSmith> ah, I see
  476. # [17:24] <MikeSmith> Drupal community in general really seems on top of things
  477. # [17:25] <MikeSmith> the accessibility work that Everett Zufelt's been doing is great to see as well
  478. # [17:25] <linclark> yeah, it's got a really good dynamic for bringing together people working on cool ideas
  479. # [17:26] <annevk> is there just happening less each week or am I missing out on a bunch of stuff?
  480. # [17:26] <MikeSmith> annevk: less happening
  481. # [17:26] <MikeSmith> less dramas too
  482. # [17:26] <MikeSmith> mostly
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  485. # [17:27] <MikeSmith> though the somewhat unrelated drama over the weekend was fun
  486. # [17:27] <annevk> did we reach some point where there are too much standards and implementors have to catch up?
  487. # [17:27] <annevk> Dart?
  488. # [17:27] <MikeSmith> it's august
  489. # [17:27] <MikeSmith> annevk: yeah
  490. # [17:28] <MikeSmith> and there has been lots of catching up too
  491. # [17:28] <annevk> because of August? guess that makes sense
  492. # [17:28] <MikeSmith> lots of stuff in the latest IE10 platform preview
  493. # [17:28] <MikeSmith> well, I guess it's actually September now
  494. # [17:28] <MikeSmith> for the last two weeks
  495. # [17:29] <MikeSmith> in most civilized parts of the world, nobody tries to get much done during the last part of July and most of August
  496. # [17:32] <jgraham> Paris is civilized?
  497. # [17:34] <MikeSmith> Paris is over-civilized
  498. # [17:34] <MikeSmith> Nice is civilized
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  504. # [17:46] <shepazu> hey, TabAtkins, want to help fix the markup on w3conf?
  505. # [17:46] <shepazu> I've started on it already
  506. # [17:47] <shepazu> it's my fault, I was focused on getting it accessible and i18ny, and didn't notice the bad markup
  507. # [17:47] <MikeSmith> shepazu: I'll help you
  508. # [17:47] <MikeSmith> I'll change all the class values to opaque strings
  509. # [17:47] <shepazu> lol
  510. # [17:48] <shepazu> add some <font> elements
  511. # [17:49] <MikeSmith> better yet, I'll generate all the markup from JS, based on real-time scouring of twitter for markup best-practice advice from the experts
  512. # [17:50] <MikeSmith> I think that would make Bert happy at least
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  514. # [17:51] <annevk> Ms2ger was back tomorrow right?
  515. # [17:53] <shepazu> TabAtkins?
  516. # [17:55] <myakura> he's prolly away (saw he sent regrets to csswg call).
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  519. # [17:58] <shepazu> thanks myakura
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  521. # [18:04] <linclark> shepazu: are you an admin on the w3cconf site?
  522. # [18:05] <shepazu> linclark: no, but I can get in touch with those who are
  523. # [18:05] <linclark> ok, cool... the Save the Date button is giving an error
  524. # [18:06] <shepazu> linclark: yeah, notice that (too late) ^_^
  525. # [18:06] <linclark> ah, ok, glad to hear that it's already known
  526. # [18:06] <shepazu> thanks linclark
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  529. # [18:06] <shepazu> right now I'm fixing the sily markup
  530. # [18:06] <shepazu> * silly
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  556. # [18:29] <dglazkov> good morning, Whatwg!
  557. # [18:29] <strickly> :O
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  607. # [19:25] <zcorpan> why doesn't WorkerLocation have resolveURL?
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  611. # [19:28] <AryehGregor> So what are the major features missing from IE10 now?
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  613. # [19:29] <zcorpan> does it have location.resolveURL? :)
  614. # [19:30] * zcorpan ponders if resolveURL isn't redundant with <a href>
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  620. # [19:38] <AryehGregor> I use <a href> in my reflection tests to resolve URLs.
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  627. # [19:44] <zcorpan> workers don't have <a> so it would make more sense there, but it's not present there
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  644. # [20:05] <Hixie> zcorpan: probably oversight. file a bug or send mail.
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  647. # [20:18] <zcorpan> already done
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  649. # [20:19] <Hixie> thanks
  650. # [20:21] <zcorpan> Hixie: do you remember why resolveURL was added?
  651. # [20:23] <Hixie> to have a nice api to resolve urls, i would assume
  652. # [20:24] <Hixie> there's no way to resolve relative to the script's base url otherwise
  653. # [20:24] <Hixie> unless you somehow work out what that url is, and then use xml:base and an <a> element
  654. # [20:24] <Hixie> which is rather awkward and non-intuitive
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  689. # [21:10] <Hixie> ok can anyone point me to how i download IE10?
  690. # [21:10] <Hixie> the microsoft site is giving me the run-around
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  692. # [21:11] <Hixie> as far as i can tell, the IE10 preview download is 2.8GB to 4.8GB depending on whether you want dev tools and whether you want 32bi or 64bit
  693. # [21:12] <Hixie> and to run it you have to boot into it because it's actually an OS.
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  695. # [21:12] <zcorpan> Hixie: when would a script's base URL be different from an <a>'s base URL?
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  697. # [21:12] <Hixie> when there's xml:base around, i guess? dunno.
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  699. # [21:13] <Hixie> haven't really thought about it.
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  705. # [21:21] <annevk> we should remove resolveURL
  706. # [21:21] <annevk> in favor of window.URL
  707. # [21:22] <annevk> I haven't filed a bug on that yet I guess, maybe that can be part of zcorpan's bug?
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  709. # [21:23] <zcorpan> URL has a resolve feature?
  710. # [21:23] <annevk> new URL(url, baseurl) will be the feature I think
  711. # [21:24] <zcorpan> oh, ok
  712. # [21:24] <zcorpan> how do you get the base url?
  713. # [21:24] <annevk> something like that, but in any event there's no need to have two APIs for it
  714. # [21:24] <annevk> the non-worker script would hand it over presumably
  715. # [21:24] <annevk> i guess this is for shared workers
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  718. # [21:29] <Hixie> annevk: is URL going anywhere?
  719. # [21:29] <Hixie> last i heard that spec was not being edited actively
  720. # [21:29] <annevk> guess that's up to abarth
  721. # [21:30] <annevk> maybe I should help him with a skeleton HTML spec that he can update
  722. # [21:30] <annevk> cause I think setting it up in HTML is what was holding it back
  723. # [21:32] <Hixie> hm, <table><tr><td><svg><desc><td> parses incorrectly in chrome as far as i can tell
  724. # [21:32] <Hixie> is that checked in the test suite?
  725. # [21:33] <Hixie> is http://code.google.com/p/html5lib/source/browse/#hg%2Ftestdata%2Ftree-construction the canonical place for the test suite?
  726. # [21:34] <annevk> think so
  727. # [21:34] <annevk> html5lib is anyway
  728. # [21:35] <annevk> Hixie, definitely different from Minefield
  729. # [21:35] <annevk> or Nightly as it's called
  730. # [21:35] <Hixie> also than opera
  731. # [21:35] <annevk> (still Minefield.app, confusing)
  732. # [21:35] <Hixie> though the opera i'm testing is the pre-html parser i think
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  734. # [21:36] <espadrine> About bug #14145 (http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14145#c3), is there a way to see how browsers implement <td headers> when there is a space in the id of a targeted <td>?
  735. # [21:36] <Hixie> is anyone able to add a test to the html5lib test suite easily? (that gets pulled by everyone else's test suites right?)
  736. # [21:37] <annevk> I think people sync every now and then
  737. # [21:37] <annevk> you are actually a committer
  738. # [21:37] <annevk> so you could
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  740. # [21:38] <Hixie> if nobody has it checked out and can easily just add a test, i will
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  743. # [21:43] <Hixie> annevk: what file would i add this test to?
  744. # [21:43] <annevk> Hixie, filing a bug on WebKit might also get it added upstream
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  746. # [21:43] <Hixie> true
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  748. # [21:44] <annevk> tables01.dat maybe?
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  751. # [21:44] <annevk> I don't think there's much logic to it, but hsivonen / jgraham / abarth know better
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  753. # [21:45] <Hixie> this look right to you?:
  754. # [21:45] <Hixie> #data
  755. # [21:45] <Hixie> <table><tr><td><svg><desc><td>
  756. # [21:45] <Hixie> #errors
  757. # [21:45] <Hixie> #document
  758. # [21:45] <Hixie> | <html>
  759. # [21:45] <Hixie> | <head>
  760. # [21:45] <Hixie> | <body>
  761. # [21:45] <Hixie> | <table>
  762. # [21:45] <Hixie> | <tbody>
  763. # [21:45] <Hixie> | <tr>
  764. # [21:45] <Hixie> | <td>
  765. # [21:45] <Hixie> | <svg svg>
  766. # [21:45] <Hixie> | <svg desc>
  767. # [21:45] <Hixie> | <td>
  768. # [21:45] <Hixie> (there should be parse errors but i guess we're not testing those?)
  769. # [21:46] * karlcow wants to drop water on top
  770. # [21:46] <karlcow> so it will make a nice waterfall
  771. # [21:47] <annevk> espadrine, they split on spaces first, so that won't work; that's why spaces are not allowed in IDs
  772. # [21:48] <annevk> Hixie, looks alright
  773. # [21:48] <Hixie> how do i run the tests? i tried |python2.5 ./runtests.py| but it wants a simplejson module i don't seem to have
  774. # [21:48] <Hixie> is there an easy way to install it?
  775. # [21:49] <Hixie> or not need it?
  776. # [21:49] <Hixie> (i'm on dreamhost)
  777. # [21:50] <annevk> can you do
  778. # [21:50] <annevk> easy_install simplejson
  779. # [21:50] <annevk> with Python 2.6 there's a json module
  780. # [21:52] <Hixie> don't have 2.6, and don't have root to install anything
  781. # [21:52] <Hixie> bummer
  782. # [21:52] <Hixie> can you install locally in a way that works with python?
  783. # [21:53] <annevk> yeah you should be able to install libraries and such
  784. # [21:53] <annevk> it's just been a while for me
  785. # [21:53] <annevk> Philip` might know
  786. # [21:54] <Hixie> the documentation for easy_install suggests http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#creating-a-virtual-python
  787. # [21:54] <Hixie> which looks like something to do after lunch
  788. # [21:55] <annevk> I think I have such a virtual setup as well
  789. # [21:55] <annevk> http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Python#Virtualenv
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  791. # [21:56] <Hixie> sounds like the way to go
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  793. # [21:56] <Hixie> that or just installing python2.6 locally
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  796. # [21:57] <Hixie> ooh, python2.5 ./test_treewalkers.py didn't need json
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  798. # [21:57] <smaug____> um, is moznet down :/
  799. # [21:58] <Hixie> no
  800. # [21:58] <smaug____> for some reason I can't connect to it
  801. # [21:58] <Hixie> annevk: yay, html5lib passes my test (checked by breaking the test and checking that it does indeed break!)
  802. # [21:59] <Hixie> annevk: so uh, how do i commit something back with mercurial?
  803. # [21:59] <Hixie> i don't think i've ever done that!
  804. # [21:59] * Hixie looks it up
  805. # [21:59] <smaug____> hg commit -m "message"
  806. # [21:59] <smaug____> hg push
  807. # [22:00] <Philip`> Normally you can tell Python modules to install into some prefix like ~/.local somehow and then run "PYTHONPATH=~/.local python ...", I think
  808. # [22:01] <Hixie> smaug____: thanks
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  813. # [22:07] <karlcow> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/hh272903.aspx#_DOMHitTesting
  814. # [22:08] <karlcow> "msElementsFromPoint(x, y) Returns an NodeList of elements that are under a point defined by x and y"
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  919. # [22:13] <Hixie> wtf, i get a 404 not found when i try to hg push
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  921. # [22:14] <smaug____> Hixie: are you behind some firewall?
  922. # [22:14] <Hixie> don't think so
  923. # [22:14] <smaug____> or does the .hg/hgrc point to the right repository
  924. # [22:16] <Hixie> i pulled from http://, because https:// was giving me a 404 when pulling too, and then changed the hgrc to point to https to push, since it has to be pushed over https on google code hosting.
  925. # [22:16] <Hixie> so i guess i should fix the pull problem first
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  928. # [22:17] <Hixie> hg clone https://code.google.com/p/html5lib/
  929. # [22:17] <Hixie> abort: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
  930. # [22:17] <Hixie> wtf
  931. # [22:17] * Hixie growls at google code hosting
  932. # [22:19] <smaug____> hg clone https://code.google.com/p/html5lib/ works here
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  935. # [22:19] <Hixie> o_O
  936. # [22:20] <Hixie> maybe an ssl issue?
  937. # [22:20] * Hixie tries it on a different machine
  938. # [22:20] <smaug____> I did get warning: code.google.com certificate with fingerprint b3:93:d0:5c:a0:7d:03:45:95:62:ec:18:1a:ea:bd:01:52:84:98:06 not verified (check hostfingerprints or web.cacerts config setting)
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  972. # [22:23] <Hixie> sigh
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  1019. # [22:29] <Hixie> ok here we go
  1020. # [22:29] <Hixie> and it even works with the https url
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  1033. # [22:49] <smaug____> ah, DOM4's range stringifier isn't backwards compatible
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  1035. # [22:49] * smaug____ files some bugs
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  1037. # [22:50] <smaug____> er
  1038. # [22:50] <smaug____> hmm
  1039. # [22:50] * smaug____ will file implementation bugs
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  1044. # [22:54] <AryehGregor> smaug____, it's not?
  1045. # [22:54] <AryehGregor> I thought I tested it.
  1046. # [22:54] <AryehGregor> Maybe I didn't.
  1047. # [22:57] <smaug____> AryehGregor: I could be wrong
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  1049. # [22:58] <smaug____> AryehGregor: I'm making PI to inherit CharacterData and I started to wonder how toString should work in that case
  1050. # [22:58] <smaug____> DOM2 is quite vague
  1051. # [22:58] <smaug____> it does say "Returns the contents of a Range as a string. This string contains only the data characters, not any markup."
  1052. # [22:58] <smaug____> but it does also hint that "This includes character data in both Text and CDATASec"
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  1054. # [23:00] <AryehGregor> smaug____, but not PI or Comment. It's meant to work like textContent, as far as I understand it.
  1055. # [23:01] <AryehGregor> That's how I specced it, anyway.
  1056. # [23:01] <AryehGregor> CDATASec is the same as Text these days, in spec-land.
  1057. # [23:01] <smaug____> well, no one has removed CDATA sec, but sure
  1058. # [23:01] <AryehGregor> From implementations, yet.
  1059. # [23:01] <smaug____> and CDATA extends Text anyway
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  1078. # [23:30] <chriseppstein> TabAtkins: We're discussing on the Sass mailing list whether it's safe to always unquote quoted strings stored in a variable when used in selector context. Can you imagine a selector ever using single or double quotes?
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  1080. # [23:31] <Hixie> ok i pushed the new parser test up
  1081. # [23:31] <chriseppstein> people not TabAtkins can also answer :)
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  1083. # [23:35] <AryehGregor> Okay, so Unity provides me with no way to find a window with a particular name. It doesn't list the names of windows when I Alt-Tab, and it has no taskbar.
  1084. # [23:35] <AryehGregor> So how am I supposed to find which of my 18 XChat windows is #webkit?
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  1086. # [23:35] <AryehGregor> chriseppstein, [attr=val]?
  1087. # [23:36] <chriseppstein> AryehGregor: does that use strings?
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  1089. # [23:36] <chriseppstein> I guess it does
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  1092. # [23:36] * chriseppstein waves at ben_alman
  1093. # [23:36] <chriseppstein> asdf
  1094. # [23:36] <chriseppstein> benschwarz:
  1095. # [23:37] <benschwarz> chriseppstein: !
  1096. # [23:37] <benschwarz> the blocks feature in sass, so hot!
  1097. # [23:37] <chriseppstein> :D
  1098. # [23:37] <AryehGregor> chriseppstein, data:text/html,<p data-foo="'"><script>alert(document.querySelector("[data\-foo=\"'\"]"))</script>
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  1100. # [23:37] <AryehGregor> Alerts HTMLParagraphElement.
  1101. # [23:37] <benschwarz> chriseppstein: did it come from our conversation a month (or more?) ago?
  1102. # [23:38] <chriseppstein> AryehGregor: thanks
  1103. # [23:38] <benschwarz> or did it just get invented by nex3?
  1104. # [23:38] <chriseppstein> benschwarz: no. we've been talking about it for over a year
  1105. # [23:38] <benschwarz> implementation is good
  1106. # [23:38] <benschwarz> (the api)
  1107. # [23:38] <chriseppstein> but I really needed it now :)
  1108. # [23:38] <chriseppstein> since I'm using media queries
  1109. # [23:38] <chriseppstein> then I needed to change them
  1110. # [23:38] <chriseppstein> ugh
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  1112. # [23:39] <benschwarz> :) I'll be putting it to use this week myself I reckon
  1113. # [23:39] <benschwarz> how far away is the sass release?
  1114. # [23:40] <chriseppstein> benschwarz: we have one bug so far. if you put the same mixin in the content three times our infinite loop detection kicks in erroneously
  1115. # [23:40] <chriseppstein> benschwarz: who knows. 2-3 months
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  1117. # [23:42] <chriseppstein> but I will start using the master branch right away in my project :)
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  1122. # [23:44] <hamcore> Is there a way to compress meta tags?
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  1124. # [23:46] <annevk> compress?
  1125. # [23:46] <hamcore> minify it.
  1126. # [23:47] <annevk> sure, but why?
  1127. # [23:47] <hamcore> privacy thoughts
  1128. # [23:48] <annevk> I have a hard time following them
  1129. # [23:48] <hamcore> nevermind, it was a fool question
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