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- # [18:54] <AryehGregor> Is there a good way to test [[Configurable]]?
- # [18:54] <AryehGregor> Just delete and see if it works?
- # [18:54] <_bga> getOPD?
- # [18:55] <AryehGregor> Oh, awesome.
- # [18:55] <AryehGregor> Thanks!
- # [18:56] <AryehGregor> I guess if that returns the right thing but it doesn't behave right, that's more of an ES bug than a WebIDL bug.
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- # [19:09] <_bga> AryehGregor http://pastie.org/2857719
- # [19:13] <AryehGregor> Only IE9 ever passes my new shiny assert_interface().
- # [19:13] <AryehGregor> Go IE.
- # [19:14] <AryehGregor> Gecko doesn't have Node.prototype.constructor.
- # [19:15] <AryehGregor> Node.prototype is enumerable and configurable in Opera, and should be neither.
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- # [19:15] <AryehGregor> In WebKit, window.Node is not writable but is enumerable, while it should be writable but not enumerable. And String(Node) is wrong.
- # [19:18] <Ms2ger> AryehGregor, can you also try it on NodeList?
- # [19:19] * AryehGregor tries
- # [19:20] <AryehGregor> Ms2ger, works.
- # [19:20] <AryehGregor> I mean, it passes everything.
- # [19:20] <Ms2ger> Excellent
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- # [20:02] <AryehGregor> What's an example of a static operation that's actually used in real life? I don't find any in DOM4, and the only one I find in HTML is URL.createObjectURL.
- # [20:07] <Ms2ger> IDB
- # [20:07] <Ms2ger> Those are the only two
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- # [20:11] <AryehGregor> jgraham, I submitted another testharness.js patch: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14814
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- # [20:38] <heycam> AryehGregor, also you can test Object.getOwnPropertyDescriptor(obj, propname).configurable
- # [20:39] <Ms2ger> heycam, yes, that's what _bga said
- # [20:40] <heycam> Ms2ger, I'd have realised that if I'd read just one line further, I suppose :)
- # [20:40] <Ms2ger> :)
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- # [22:45] <gsnedders> AryehGregor: getOPD often returns bogus things for host objects in general.
- # [22:46] <Ms2ger> Well, then that's an excellent thing to test
- # [22:46] <gsnedders> A WebIDL mapping issue rather than a per-interface issue in general, though
- # [22:46] <gsnedders> And I'm not sure WebIDL actually requires it to be correct
- # [22:47] <heycam> hopefully it does
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- # [22:48] <gsnedders> I have some draft email somewhere about things that WebIDL fails to specify.
- # [22:48] <gsnedders> I know what your intention is, heycam :)
- # [22:48] <Ms2ger> Send it, dammit :)
- # [22:48] <heycam> gsnedders, yes please send :)
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- # [22:51] <gsnedders> Oh, no, it's fixed now anyway
- # [22:52] <Ms2ger> :)
- # [22:54] <heycam> yay
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- # [23:29] <annevk> heh
- # [23:30] <annevk> HTML5 new featured by WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203537304577030033160849296.html
- # [23:30] <Ms2ger> "Implementations that use ECMAScript to implement the APIs defined in this specification must implement them in a manner consistent with the ECMAScript Bindings defined in the Web IDL specification"
- # [23:30] <Ms2ger> Does that mean C++ implementations are free to do whatever?
- # [23:30] <annevk> I hope so
- # [23:31] <heycam> "implement" there is a bit iffy
- # [23:31] <heycam> it's not the implementation of the DOM needing to be js
- # [23:31] <annevk> we should definitely not make requirements on other languages I think
- # [23:31] <heycam> it should be saying if the APIs are exposed to JS
- # [23:31] <heycam> or something
- # [23:32] <annevk> heycam: any chance we can get unions in?
- # [23:32] <annevk> heycam: if not, I think I'm just going to use them when I get back to editing DOM4
- # [23:32] <heycam> ha
- # [23:32] <annevk> heycam: much like Hixie's has been using non-existing features
- # [23:32] <heycam> I think they make sense
- # [23:33] <heycam> dunno if it is worth trying to drop all the overload stuff just in favour of unions
- # [23:33] <Ms2ger> Btw, cabal, please review the mouse lock spec
- # [23:33] <heycam> might be possible
- # [23:33] <annevk> Ms2ger: place a pointer in
- # [23:33] <annevk> though I'm going to try to sleep shortly
- # [23:33] <Ms2ger> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webevents/raw-file/default/mouse-lock.html
- # [23:33] <annevk> still adjusting after the flight :(
- # [23:34] <annevk> heycam: there's definitely some overlap
- # [23:34] <Ms2ger> Hmm, sleeping...
- # [23:34] <annevk> heycam: though the append() stuff you cannot really do with overloading because of the varargs
- # [23:35] <annevk> allowing append(Comment, Text) does not work with append(Comment...); append(Text...) afaict
- # [23:36] <annevk> via this new "Activity" feature of twitter I find out that people "favorite" tweets a lot
- # [23:36] <heycam> annevk, yeah that wouldn't allow append(aComment, aComment, aText, aComment)
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