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  39. # [02:19] <duryodhan> hi folks .. where do I report possible errors in the HTML5 spec. Its a trivial but important bug: the Fetch algorithm http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/fetching-resources.html#fetch doesn't actually check the same-origin flag. It only does so after a redirect.
  40. # [02:20] <duryodhan> Is Hixie the right person to ping about this?
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  42. # [02:21] <annevk> origin is checked before the request is made
  43. # [02:21] <annevk> before fetch is invoked, that is
  44. # [02:26] <annevk> duryodhan: ^^
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  46. # [02:26] <duryodhan> annevk: can't find that check at http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/workers.html#dom-workerglobalscope-location
  47. # [02:27] <duryodhan> it just seems like a better idea to do the check inside the fetch url .. what does it even mean to do a cross origin fetch with same-origin flag set? If it redirects to the same domain it will be disallowed ?
  48. # [02:29] <annevk> duryodhan: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/workers.html#dom-worker
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  50. # [02:30] <annevk> duryodhan: I'm not sure that you can ever get into that situation, but maybe the spec should indeed point that out
  51. # [02:31] <duryodhan> annevk: ohh yeah .. noticed.
  52. # [02:31] <duryodhan> yeah to me it seems like unnecessary to require all calls to fetch to do teh same origin check themselves
  53. # [02:32] <annevk> I don't think all calls do such a check
  54. # [02:32] <annevk> but maybe now with CORS that changed
  55. # [02:32] <annevk> at some point CORS/fetch needs to merged
  56. # [02:32] <annevk> but we're gonna wait with that
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  61. # [02:42] * annevk thinks myakura should deal with http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011OctDec/1209.html :p
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  226. # [11:57] <ashaw> hey, I was wondering if there was a way of telling a web browser to not allow any external embedding of javascript in a document and to dissbale eval?
  227. # [11:59] <ashaw> because as far as I can see there is not, and this would be a useful security feature for the web
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  231. # [12:13] <bga_> ashaw http://www.w3schools.com/html5/att_iframe_sandbox.asp
  232. # [12:14] <ashaw> but can I do it outside of an iframe
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  234. # [12:15] <bga_> => wrap all page into iframe
  235. # [12:16] <ashaw> That is kind of useless
  236. # [12:17] <ashaw> and will cause useability problems with, giving the most basic example, and iphone
  237. # [12:17] <bga_> sec
  238. # [12:18] <ashaw> Also I want to load scripts, but only thoes originally embeded in the html of the page, no other scripts
  239. # [12:19] <ashaw> so above also does not do what I want
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  242. # [12:20] <bga_> ashaw you can use dommutation events, catch any attemp to add <script> and dont allow set src
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  244. # [12:20] <ashaw> and how do you deal with eval?
  245. # [12:20] <bga_> by replacing src attibute and setAttribute fn
  246. # [12:21] <bga_> oh eval
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  248. # [12:21] <bga_> ashaw user still can use cross origin XHR and eval/Fn, ok
  249. # [12:22] <bga_> but you can wrap XHR too :)
  250. # [12:22] <ashaw> yeah, but this is now becoming complex and vunerable to bugs
  251. # [12:23] <ashaw> and what if they then do and overwride your handler
  252. # [12:24] * Philip` thought mutation events were generally agreed to be evil and never to be used
  253. # [12:25] <Philip`> ashaw: Maybe you want something a bit like https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Security/CSP ?
  254. # [12:28] <bga_> ashaw dont forget that user can download resource via <img> & canvas, <link>, <object> and <embed>
  255. # [12:29] <ashaw> I was about to mention them
  256. # [12:29] <ashaw> That CSP stuff seems good
  257. # [12:31] <ashaw> but only firefox?
  258. # [12:32] <ashaw> does webkit, IE, opera offer anything similar?
  259. # [12:36] <ashaw> so webkit is impelmenting support
  260. # [12:40] <bga_> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dz4jvnj_54hrjnwpdc&pli=1
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  266. # [12:49] <ashaw> cool, but not quite applicable
  267. # [12:51] <bga_> i like typesafe router
  268. # [12:56] <ashaw> So do I
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