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  14. # [00:40] <zewt> TabAtkins: the top part is just the top-level "Mozilla Firefox Web Browser", which my eyes just automatically skip past (since download links 99.9% of the time show up on google as a subsection link); then the first one I actually read is 3.6, then to the right of that "Download" (which actually goes to the snapshot builds)
  15. # [00:40] <TabAtkins> Ah yes, indeed.
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  20. # [00:55] <ojan> sigh, this stuff is so confusing http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-script-coord/2012JanMar/0104.html
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  22. # [00:56] <ojan> it's not clear to me if the end result here addresses whether variable declarations shadow named properties
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  25. # [00:59] <TabAtkins> OJAN
  26. # [01:00] <TabAtkins> OJAN HELP ME WITH INTRINSIC SIZING OF VERTICAL MULTI-LINE FLEXBOXES
  27. # [01:00] <ojan> TABATKINS
  28. # [01:00] <ojan> lol
  29. # [01:00] <ojan> vertical text is so crazy complicated
  30. # [01:00] <TabAtkins> Well, I just mean flex-flow:column wrap; flexboxes.
  31. # [01:01] <ojan> yeah
  32. # [01:01] <TabAtkins> It acts almost exactly like a vertical text flow, though. :/
  33. # [01:01] <ojan> right
  34. # [01:01] <TabAtkins> I may wait to finish this until Paris when I have Fantasai in the room with me.
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  36. # [01:02] <ojan> TabAtkins: yeah...we haven't implemented wrap at all yet
  37. # [01:02] <TabAtkins> Yeah, single-line is easy because you dont linebreak at all.
  38. # [01:03] <TabAtkins> Hey, how do you do shrinkwrap on a single-line row flexbox? Do the normal calculations (pretend it's a block, etc.) then sum the items widths?
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  41. # [01:06] <ojan> TabAtkins: we basically pretend it's an inline-block
  42. # [01:06] <TabAtkins> Okay, that's what I was assuming.
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  44. # [01:06] <ojan> TabAtkins: we pretend each item is an inline-block
  45. # [01:07] <ojan> TabAtkins: you don't shrinkwrap the flexbox itself, right?
  46. # [01:07] * TabAtkins wonders how far he can get with just handwaving that it acts "like text" and specifying linebreaking beahvior.
  47. # [01:07] <TabAtkins> If the flexbox is floated, yeah you do.
  48. # [01:07] <ojan> TabAtkins: oh right...we probably get that wrong :)
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  50. # [01:09] <ojan> TabAtkins: yup...we get that wrong
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  53. # [01:16] <ojan> What is the purpose of TR specs?
  54. # [01:16] <TabAtkins> To confuse and enrage.
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  59. # [01:26] <zewt> Totally Retro
  60. # [01:26] <zewt> sorry, best i could come up with
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  144. # [05:12] <MikeSmith> "The Whole Point Of Standards Is To Take Decisions Away From Developers"
  145. # [05:12] <MikeSmith> etc.
  146. # [05:12] <MikeSmith> http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/
  147. # [05:12] <MikeSmith> krijn: good stuff man
  148. # [05:12] <MikeSmith> not just that one but all of them
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  152. # [05:25] <MikeSmith> dglazkov: y u at there?
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  160. # [05:45] <MikeSmith> https://twitter.com/#!/mikebelshe/status/162799418565857280
  161. # [05:45] <MikeSmith> "Upgraded Firefox9 to Firefox3.5 to avoid CORS retardation."
  162. # [05:45] <MikeSmith> Mike Belshe
  163. # [05:46] <MikeSmith> I wonder what problem he means
  164. # [05:46] <MikeSmith> oh
  165. # [05:46] <MikeSmith> Jonas on top of it already
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  167. # [05:47] * MikeSmith notices scheib
  168. # [05:47] <MikeSmith> scheib: fyi, if/when you need to reach me about some W3C thing, feel free to ping me here. Quicker than e-mail
  169. # [05:48] <MikeSmith> WTF
  170. # [05:48] <MikeSmith> "Now I need a disable SOP on firefox. There is none. I hate CORS."
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  172. # [05:49] <MikeSmith> let's add a user option to disable the Web security model
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  508. # [22:36] <GPHemsley> Any chance of there being allowed multiple IDs for a single element?
  509. # [22:36] <GPHemsley> eg. id="id1 id2"
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  513. # [22:44] <Philip`> GPHemsley: That would conflict with any currently-used IDs that contain spaces
  514. # [22:44] <GPHemsley> Philip`: According to the standard, IDs are not allowed to contain spaces
  515. # [22:44] <Philip`> They're not allowed to, but they still might
  516. # [22:45] <GPHemsley> oh
  517. # [22:45] <GPHemsley> hmm
  518. # [22:45] <GPHemsley> was that common?
  519. # [22:46] <GPHemsley> (couldn't have been that common, or else the restrictions on space characters would have been lifted, no?)
  520. # [22:52] <webben> GPHemsley: What would be the point of multiple IDs?
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  523. # [22:56] <GPHemsley> webben: URL backwards compatability
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  525. # [22:56] <GPHemsley> e.g. if you change the ID of an element but don't want to break URLs that used to link there
  526. # [22:57] <GPHemsley> (particularly relevant if the IDs are somehow auto-generated)
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  530. # [23:07] <Hixie> GPHemsley: just put another elementthere with the other ID
  531. # [23:07] <Hixie> GPHemsley: (i do this often in the spec)
  532. # [23:08] <GPHemsley> Hixie: Doesn't seem a little hackish to you?
  533. # [23:08] <GPHemsley> +that
  534. # [23:08] <Hixie> *shrug*
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