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  1. # Session Start: Sat Apr 28 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
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  12. # [00:21] <Hixie> heycam|away: there's no way to give an argument list of the form (arg1, [arg2, arg3, [arg4]]) right?
  13. # [00:21] <Hixie> where square brackets denote optional segments
  14. # [00:22] <Hixie> as in the equivalent of an overload list of (arg1), (arg1, arg2, arg3), (arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4)
  15. # [00:22] <Hixie> heycam|away: the reason i ask is that it'd be nice to be able to give defaults to arg2 and arg3 in a case such as this
  16. # [00:22] <Hixie> so that i don't have to cover the case of them being omitted in prose
  17. # [00:23] <TabAtkins_> What's the specific reason why (arg1, arg2) isn't allowed?
  18. # [00:24] <Hixie> args 2 and 3 are typically an x,y coordinate pair, or start,end index pair
  19. # [00:24] <TabAtkins_> Ah.
  20. # [00:25] <TabAtkins_> Most computer languages are annoying due to their inability to easily represent multi-part data like that.
  21. # [00:25] <TabAtkins_> I alwasy appreciate CSS when I design a function that just takes a <position> or something. ^_^
  22. # [00:26] <Hixie> yeah
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  26. # [00:45] <zewt> well, arrays are usually fine for that
  27. # [00:46] <zewt> python has tuples, but they're really little more than an optimization of arrays
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  29. # [00:50] <Hixie> sane languages have structs or records
  30. # [00:50] <Hixie> similar to webidl dicts
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  32. # [00:53] <zewt> well, every high-level language has a native dictionary/mapping type
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  35. # [00:57] <Hixie> i meant something with declared fields
  36. # [00:57] <Hixie> not like perl hashes or JS objects
  37. # [00:57] <Hixie> i guess i'm really talking about typed vs untyped
  38. # [00:58] * Hixie misses strong typing
  39. # [00:58] <zewt> those are pretty out of place in dynamically-typed languages
  40. # [00:58] <Hixie> right
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  43. # [01:03] <TabAtkins_> If it wasn't for the fact that all the canvas APIs already accept their x,y pairs as separate arguments, I'd argue that you should accept a 2-array.
  44. # [01:03] <TabAtkins_> foo(bar, [x,y], baz)
  45. # [01:04] <TabAtkins_> The syntax is lightweight in JS, and more understandable.
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  48. # [01:06] <Hixie> is there away to define default values for optional arrays?
  49. # [01:06] <Hixie> cause if not, my original question stands :-)
  50. # [01:06] <TabAtkins_> In IDL? I dunno.
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  145. # [08:58] <Ms2ger> Hixie, no, overloads + prose is the way to go
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  158. # [10:25] <annevk> or dictionary
  159. # [10:28] <Ms2ger> Well, yes, but that's inconsistent with the rest of the API
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  266. # [19:30] <GPHemsley> Does anyone here have moderator privileges to the ietf-http-wg mailing list?
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  268. # [19:43] <MikeSmith> GPHemsley: I do
  269. # [19:43] <MikeSmith> I think
  270. # [19:43] <MikeSmith> something you need?
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  276. # [20:42] <GPHemsley> MikeSmith: I sent a message on Apr 22 that was moderated and still hasn't gotten approved
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  279. # [20:46] <MikeSmith> GPHemsley: OK, that can only be handled by the list moderator
  280. # [20:46] <MikeSmith> which I'm not for that list
  281. # [20:46] <GPHemsley> ah, darn
  282. # [20:46] <MikeSmith> it's Yves Lafon
  283. # [20:47] <MikeSmith> please e-mail him at ylafon@w3.org
  284. # [20:47] <MikeSmith> and ask him to approve it
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  286. # [20:51] <GPHemsley> done, thanks
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  317. # [23:57] <cbright6062> is there a problem with the wiki right now? Because I keep getting database errors.
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