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  17. # [01:07] <smaug____> where is the spec which defines innerHTML
  18. # [01:07] <smaug____> (Ms2ger isn't here)
  19. # [01:08] <smaug____> ah, http://html5.org/specs/dom-parsing.html
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  153. # [11:24] <jgraham> New theory: document.write is only the second worst part of the platform and window.open is the worst
  154. # [11:26] <Ms2ger> Can I enter HTML serialization as a contestant?
  155. # [11:26] <Ms2ger> If I have a DOM like <div><input><span></span></input></div>, what is div.innerHTML?
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  159. # [11:29] <jgraham> If I window.open a window and there is an alert in the opener window, what happens in the new window? What about if the user has explicitly navigated the opened window?
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  165. # [11:44] <zcorpan> Ms2ger: <input>
  166. # [11:45] <Ms2ger> Per spec and in Opera, yes
  167. # [11:45] <zcorpan> do all other browsers disagree?
  168. # [11:46] <Ms2ger> Gecko has "<input><span></span>"
  169. # [11:46] <Ms2ger> Chrome has "<input></input>"
  170. # [11:46] <zcorpan> i don't object to changing the spec what gecko has. chrome's serialization seems weird though
  171. # [11:47] <Ms2ger> I would object to changing to what Gecko has :)
  172. # [11:47] <zcorpan> why?
  173. # [11:47] <Ms2ger> Because I think it's rather weird :)
  174. # [11:48] <zcorpan> not weirder than non-text nodes in <style>
  175. # [11:48] <Ms2ger> Hmm, IE10 seems to match Gecko
  176. # [11:49] * Ms2ger looks at what style does
  177. # [11:49] <zcorpan> we can't make innerHTML be "correct" for all cases because the dom can contain lots of things that are not serializable
  178. # [11:50] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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  408. # [23:49] <asmodai> I long for a day where user agent strings are meaningful again
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  410. # [23:53] <Philip`> The only reason for them to be meaningful is if you're trying to extract meaning from them, in which case you're presumably trying to use that meaning to distinguish browsers and handle them differently in some way, in which case a future browser will benefit from lying and saying something that it doesn't really mean but that produces the desired behaviour
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  412. # [23:54] <Philip`> so your longed-for day will not be a stable equilibrium
  413. # [23:54] <Philip`> so there will be no long-term gain and plenty of short-term pain
  414. # [23:55] <Philip`> so we are doomed :-(
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  416. # [23:56] <asmodai> heh
  417. # [23:58] <espadrine> wow. That was the most perfect answer possible.
  418. # Session Close: Tue May 29 00:00:00 2012

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