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  245. # [17:18] <gsnedders> jgraham: Have a working copy of html5lib that's gone through 2to3 and 3to2, needing slight work after the latter. 5% quicker at parsing the spec, likely down to no implicit str/unicode conversions.
  246. # [17:18] <gsnedders> (Also, am in Lkpg)
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  253. # [17:40] <Ms2ger> gsnedders, \o/
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  258. # [18:13] <gsnedders> So, the main challenge with 3to2: how do I have a string literal which is always the "str" type (i.e., a byte string on Py2 and a unicode string on Py3).
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  261. # [18:21] <Ms2ger> Preprocess your python in python
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  270. # [18:43] <jgraham> gsnedders: Why do you need that?
  271. # [18:44] <jgraham> If you do then you would do something like:
  272. # [18:44] <jgraham> def foo(x):
  273. # [18:44] <jgraham> if python2:
  274. # [18:44] <jgraham> return str(x)
  275. # [18:45] <jgraham> else:
  276. # [18:45] <jgraham> return unicode(x)
  277. # [18:45] <jgraham> Or whatever the right function names are
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  284. # [18:57] <zewt> jgraham: may as well do "foo = str if python2 else unicode" in that case, heh
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  293. # [19:17] <Ms2ger> "While Opera has a history of lying to sites for compatibility reasons, most other browsers do not."
  294. # [19:17] <Ms2ger> Orly
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  296. # [19:32] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Hahaha
  297. # [19:33] <jgraham> Where's that from?
  298. # [19:33] <Ms2ger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012JulSep/0486.html
  299. # [19:34] <jgraham> Man, Tab should know better than that
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  336. # [22:09] <gsnedders> jgraham: Ah, but 2to3 will convert str(x) to unicode(x).
  337. # [22:09] <gsnedders> jgraham: Or rather 3to2.
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  339. # [22:09] <gsnedders> jgraham: So you end up with return unicode(x) on both branches.
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  342. # [22:21] <jarek> Hi
  343. # [22:22] <jarek> if you specify HSLA values to CSSOM, should it be converted and stored as RGBA?
  344. # [22:22] <jarek> e.g.:
  345. # [22:22] <jarek> element.style.color = 'hsla(100, 40%, 50%, 0.5)'
  346. # [22:23] <jarek> element.style.color
  347. # [22:23] <jarek> > "rgba(110, 179, 76, 0.498039)"
  348. # [22:23] <jarek> this is how it works on both Firefox and Chrome
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  350. # [22:23] <jarek> this is not what I would have expected
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  352. # [22:30] <gsnedders> Both always return <color> values as rgba. There's a fair bit of sense in this, as all the various CSS syntax forms are stored as a normalized colour value internally, and in Firefox/Chrome it isn't stored what the input form was.
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  355. # [22:35] <jarek> uhm... but this rather confusing to anyone using this API
  356. # [22:36] <jarek> e.g. if you are implementing HSL color picker then the information about hue that user has picked is lost
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  358. # [22:37] <gsnedders> jarek: It isn't lost, you can get from rgba to hsla.
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  360. # [22:37] <jarek> gsnedders: it is lost if both saturation and value were 0
  361. # [22:38] <jgraham> gsnedders: You haven't really explained why you need something that is always a str
  362. # [22:40] <gsnedders> jgraham: types.ModuleType's first argument is a str in Py2 and a str in Py3.
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  371. # [22:58] <jgraham> gsnedders: if hasattr(types, "StringTypes"): getattr(types, "StringTypes")[0]; else: str
  372. # [22:58] <jgraham> Presumably 3to2 isn't clever enough to convert that
  373. # [23:01] <gsnedders> jgraham: Yeah, I was guessing I'd have to do something like that. Which sucks.
  374. # [23:01] <jgraham> Only a little bit
  375. # [23:02] <gsnedders> (The only other issue is an outright bug in 3to2)
  376. # [23:03] <gsnedders> (It deletes a line in a try block. It then doesn't add "pass". Syntax error results.)
  377. # [23:03] <jgraham> http://web.archive.org/web/20010621171122/http://www.mozillazine.org/designpatterns/
  378. # [23:03] <gsnedders> Still suspect there are other issues around elsewhere in the code.
  379. # [23:03] <zewt> gsnedders: if you just want to get the str function without it being converted, i'd hope __builtins__.str wouldn't be touched
  380. # [23:05] <jgraham> That kind of depends hwo 3to2 works, realy
  381. # [23:05] <jgraham> *really
  382. # [23:05] <gsnedders> zewt: On the other hand, that makes it dependant on default encoding in Py2.
  383. # [23:05] <gsnedders> (Whereas I really just want ISO-8859-1)
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