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  16. # [00:37] <TabAtkins> zcorpan: Added the rect() quirk to the doc as well.
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  21. # [01:11] <Hixie> so svn blame tells me what revision a line was added in
  22. # [01:11] <Hixie> is there some way to find out when it was removed?
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  24. # [01:11] <Hixie> a kind of reverse blame?
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  33. # [01:27] <TabAtkins> Oh jeez, view this in WebKit: http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/1706
  34. # [01:27] <TabAtkins> Uninitialized memory reads ahoy!
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  45. # [01:41] <hober> TabAtkins: ooof. what's the bug #?
  46. # [01:41] <TabAtkins> esprehn is working on it already, I think.
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  48. # [01:41] <TabAtkins> He showed me the problem a few minutes ago.
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  60. # [02:09] <gavinc> Click 10 times, 10 events fired, only 3 requests really made. Now THAT in unexpected.
  61. # [02:10] <Hixie> o_O
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  63. # [02:12] <gavinc> I think I have to remove some variables (using JQuery) and make this test case just use XHR, but seriously WTF
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  84. # [02:56] <Hixie> MikeSmith: component watching used to be done years ago by having a component QA and then having people watching that component QA
  85. # [02:56] <Hixie> MikeSmith: that requires account watching to be enabled, though
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  207. # [10:08] <zcorpan> TabAtkins: excellent. looks correct now afaict. thanks. i'll remove the quirks from quirks mode spec
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  246. # [12:18] <jgraham> Huh, why am I having so much difficulty making chrome prompt me to stay on a page by using a beforeunload event?
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  253. # [12:26] <zcorpan> TabAtkins: the asyncness of CAS means that there's a race condition -- elements might be parsed before the CAS is loaded, and do their thing (like, load something) before the CAS kicks in
  254. # [12:27] <zcorpan> i think we have enough trouble with race conditions as it is
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  260. # [12:50] <odinho> jgraham: Isn't that stuff disabled for those? Was some talk about it at least.
  261. # [12:51] <zcorpan> prompting to stay is the reason beforeunload exists
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  263. # [12:51] <odinho> zcorpan: Maybe it was unload if that is an event.
  264. # [12:51] <zcorpan> yeah
  265. # [12:56] <jgraham> I eventually fixed up the problem
  266. # [12:56] <jgraham> Firefox doesn't seem to prompt with history.go
  267. # [12:56] <jgraham> Chrome didn't like it when I used a function from a different document as the event handler
  268. # [12:57] <jgraham> (I don't think)
  269. # [12:57] <jgraham> (which seems like a bug)
  270. # [12:57] <jgraham> Well one bug each
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  275. # [13:10] <jgraham> Oh, I lied gecko didn't have that bug
  276. # [13:10] <jgraham> So now I wonder if I was doing something strange
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  300. # [14:20] <ruby_on_tails> if i draw an arc in canvas it starts from the rightmost, how can i make it start from the top
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  358. # [16:33] <crankharder> I'm having a problem with the application cache in chrome. My app cache looks like this: https://gist.github.com/3426029 Once this has been loaded, the fallback section takes over for all non-200 responses, which means that in all error conditions (4/500), my app falls back to /offline, which is not expected behavior. Should this not be happening, or is there some way to avoid it?
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  361. # [16:35] <crankharder> As "/ /offline" is a typical example in the docs, I can't imagine that it is recommended to circumvent all non-200 requests while the user is online.
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  382. # [17:22] <jgraham> OK, now I know what tool I need for the spec
  383. # [17:22] <jgraham> I want something that marks up bugs filed on different bits of the spec
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  386. # [17:23] <jgraham> So when someone submits a bug on a specific section everyone can see it
  387. # [17:23] <zcorpan> yes, bug annotations would be great
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  389. # [17:25] <jgraham> I need this so much, jsut to track bugs that *I* filed I think I will have to implement it
  390. # [17:25] <zcorpan> \o/
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  394. # [17:38] <Ms2ger> \o/
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  399. # [17:48] <jgraham> Hmm, so I guess it would be useful to remove bugs once they are closed. Which means that having bzAPI on W3C bugzilla would be rather helpful
  400. # [17:48] <jgraham> MikeSmith: ^
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  409. # [18:05] <jgraham> Hixie: Can I get the bug filing / status updating CGI scripts?
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  423. # [18:35] <MikeSmith> jgraham: I wasn't aware that bugs could be removed
  424. # [18:35] <Ms2ger> MikeSmith, closed
  425. # [18:35] <Ms2ger> Then they shouldn't be listed in the in-spec annotations
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  427. # [18:35] <MikeSmith> ah
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  429. # [18:37] <MikeSmith> is it not already enabled?
  430. # [18:37] <jgraham> MikeSmith: Myabe?
  431. # [18:37] <jgraham> I didn't actually try, I just assumed it wasn't
  432. # [18:37] <MikeSmith> ah I think it's not
  433. # [18:37] <MikeSmith> because v1 was released in 2011
  434. # [18:37] <MikeSmith> and we are running 3.6 from 2010
  435. # [18:38] <MikeSmith> and it's an add-on I guess
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  437. # [18:39] <jgraham> Yeah it's an addon. but it seems to be 3.6.x compatible
  438. # [18:39] <jgraham> At least for some value of x
  439. # [18:40] <MikeSmith> ok
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  442. # [18:51] <Ms2ger> MikeSmith, I am told it does indeed support 3.6
  443. # [18:51] <MikeSmith> OK
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  619. # [19:50] <Hixie> jgraham: ping
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  663. # [19:56] <jgraham> Hixie: pong
  664. # [19:57] <Hixie> jgraham: i like your idea and wish to subscribe to your newsletter
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  666. # [19:57] <jgraham> Heh
  667. # [19:58] <Hixie> jgraham: the way i've been doing similar things for my internal e-mail management is that i have a cronjob that just loads each bug one at a time and compares their current state, deleting e-mails relating to bugs not assigned to me or that are not closed
  668. # [19:58] <Hixie> jgraham: and so on
  669. # [19:58] <Hixie> jgraham: seems like we can do something similar here, just walking the bug list and reading the initial description of each one to get the section ID
  670. # [19:59] <Hixie> with some local caching to avoid hammering bugzilla it should be pretty simple to do
  671. # [19:59] <Hixie> (since you can just do a query to get the buglist, and then you only need to load the new bugs, bugs can't change section)
  672. # [19:59] <jgraham> Hixie: I was thinking that you would just hook up the bug submission thing to give you the initial list of bug ids
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  674. # [20:00] <jgraham> But of course if you can get it from the actual bug data that would be better
  675. # [20:00] <Hixie> yeah you can totally just grab the comments and walk through them
  676. # [20:00] <Hixie> that's how i did the cloning, e.g.
  677. # [20:00] <Hixie> (bugzilla has an xml output mode)
  678. # [20:00] <Hixie> (so there's no scraping to do)
  679. # [20:01] <jgraham> Oh, that helps
  680. # [20:01] <Hixie> for both the query results and the bug data
  681. # [20:01] <Hixie> how were you thinking of exposing the data?
  682. # [20:01] <Hixie> simplest way for me is to just call a script on your domain and have you do whatever you want
  683. # [20:02] <jgraham> Exposing in what way? In the UI?
  684. # [20:02] <Hixie> yeah
  685. # [20:02] <jgraham> I was thinkking it should be part of the status annotations
  686. # [20:03] <Hixie> that works
  687. # [20:03] <Hixie> i can provide an API for you to hook into if you want, or we can do it all server-side and just have the status things come out of the database
  688. # [20:03] <Hixie> server side meaning you push teh data straight into the database rather than on each page load
  689. # [20:04] <Hixie> API meaning in the script
  690. # [20:04] <Hixie> i guess for you it's lighter load to do it via server-side comms
  691. # [20:04] <Hixie> and let me deal with the UI
  692. # [20:04] <jgraham> Yeah, that makes sense to me
  693. # [20:04] <Hixie> k
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  697. # [20:10] <jgraham> OK, I can write the code to grab the data. What do I need to do to push it into the database?
  698. # [20:12] <Hixie> have your script output the data in the form "sectionid bugid bugid bugid\nsectionid bugid bugid\nsectionid bugid"
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  700. # [20:12] <Hixie> i'll provide you a secret URL to POST to that will update teh DB
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  702. # [20:15] <jgraham> So each time it will provide all the bug ids, and bugs that got resolved will be removed from the db on your end?
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  727. # [20:31] <Hixie> jgraham: sounds good
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  746. # [21:16] <Hixie> jgraham: should i store bug IDs, or bug URLs?
  747. # [21:16] <Hixie> jgraham: because another way i could do this would be just to change the current "demos" feature to a "bugs" feature
  748. # [21:17] <Hixie> jgraham: since we don't use the "demos" feature
  749. # [21:17] <Hixie> jgraham: this would also allow other people to add bugs and stuff
  750. # [21:17] <Hixie> jgraham: i guess it's easier to just have a list of IDs and not make it editable
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  757. # [21:23] <jgraham> Hixie: I think have a list of IDs and if people want to edit it they can add a string like the one that the bug script produces as a comment in the bug
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  759. # [21:25] <Hixie> makes sense
  760. # [21:26] <Hixie> hopefully nobody abuses it; if they do we can always have some specific people whitelisted who can use a "cancel" magic word :-)
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  765. # [21:43] <Hixie> ok 33% complete on my end: the database has a bugs table and the cgi script passes the data to the client
  766. # [21:43] <Hixie> no way to add to it yet...
  767. # [21:44] <jgraham> I guess I will finish my end tomorrow; am feeling kind of sleepy now
  768. # [21:45] <jgraham> But it is coming together
  769. # [21:47] <Hixie> cool
  770. # [21:47] <Hixie> let me know if you need any help figuring out how to get xml out and stuff, or how the schema they use works, i still remember it all from doing the cloning
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  775. # [22:01] <Hixie> is it me or is today a bad spam day
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  798. # [22:34] <hober> Hixie: do you manually approve ml subscriptions?
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