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  27. # [00:51] <zcorpan> curious about the CLA attribution requirement: "That attribution must include, at minimum, the Specification name and version number."
  28. # [00:52] <zcorpan> so if a CLA spec doesn't have a version number, it's not possible to give it attribution
  29. # [00:53] <zcorpan> yet there is no requirement to give a spec a version number, afaict
  30. # [00:53] <zcorpan> (i guess the same argument could be made for the specification name, but that hasn't actually happened)
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  39. # [01:14] <a-ja> Version: Living ???
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  42. # [01:18] <GPHemsley> Hixie: Well, it was merely half a sentence that I could add. (It's already there, commented out.)
  43. # [01:19] <GPHemsley> hsivonen: Could you explain what you mean by "prior art" in this context? The two MIME types you mentioned don't match what Hixie and I were discussing.
  44. # [01:19] <Hixie> zcorpan: my recommendation is to just do the FSAs every now and then
  45. # [01:19] <Hixie> GPHemsley: hm?
  46. # [01:20] <zcorpan> Hixie: right
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  49. # [01:22] <zcorpan> hmm. reading licenses is not what i wanted to do tonight. :-(
  50. # [01:23] <Hixie> so do something else :-)
  51. # [01:23] <GPHemsley> Hixie: My addition of a 'font' type was somewhat back-handed, as in "*if* you have one, then it goes here"
  52. # [01:23] <GPHemsley> never saying that you might be expected to or anything
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  54. # [01:24] <zcorpan> the something else will be sleeping. gn
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  56. # [01:28] <Hixie> zcorpan: nn
  57. # [01:29] <Hixie> GPHemsley: not really sure how it would affect the algorithm. The algorithm is pretty much set in stone by legacy practice.
  58. # [01:29] <Hixie> gotta go. bbl.
  59. # [01:30] <GPHemsley> Hixie: It can't be too "legacy" if it includes WebP/WebM
  60. # [01:30] <zcorpan> http://simon.html5.org/dump/compressive/test.html now has a zoom thingie. the containing dir also has more image versions (i think 4:2:0 is interesting). ok now going for real
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  89. # [03:21] <Hixie> GPHemsley: not clear it should include WebP and WebM, but yeah
  90. # [03:21] <Hixie> GPHemsley: most of it is legacy, certainly
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  122. # [04:35] <wirepair_> well i'm amazed at how many people have CORS headers completely wrong.
  123. # [04:36] <wirepair_> anyone know when the access-control-allow-origin header went from allowing multiple origins to only allowing a single one in it's header value?
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  164. # [08:18] <Youdaman> g'day
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  197. # [09:33] <hsivonen> why is the CR discussion expected to be long?
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  199. # [09:34] <Ms2ger> Because it's the HTML WG?
  200. # [09:34] <hsivonen> possibly
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  205. # [09:42] <hsivonen> still no new memes :-(
  206. # [09:42] <Ms2ger> Clearly everyone is gathered around TimBL
  207. # [09:43] <hober> hsivonen: patches welcome :)
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  209. # [09:46] <hsivonen> not a living standard: a living bug list
  210. # [09:48] <MikeSmith> heh
  211. # [09:48] <hober> night of the living bug list
  212. # [09:49] <jgraham> hsivonen: Maybe the "features at risk" discussion will be long?
  213. # [09:49] <jgraham> At least I plan to object to some of them
  214. # [09:49] <hober> jgraham: it probably should be, given how random the current list is
  215. # [09:49] <Ms2ger> Just mark everything at risk
  216. # [09:50] <hsivonen> what's the id thing about?
  217. # [09:53] <annevk> I think MIME Sniffing -> MIME makes sense to do at some point
  218. # [09:53] <annevk> MIME RFCs are way out of date
  219. # [09:53] <hsivonen> You know you don't need to maximize the IETF's anger
  220. # [09:56] <hsivonen> this meeting could go much faster
  221. # [09:56] * jgraham pushes some WebSockets tests that need to be updated
  222. # [09:56] <jgraham> If anyone is bored
  223. # [09:56] <jgraham> Updated == converted to testharness
  224. # [09:57] <jgraham> (and changing the port)
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  226. # [09:57] <hsivonen> like: "two impls missing. not gonna make it through CR. problem deferred for now"
  227. # [09:57] <hsivonen> isn't it a no-brainer to mark scoped beign at risk?
  228. # [09:58] <Ms2ger> No
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  230. # [09:58] <hsivonen> why do we need to talk about it?
  231. # [09:59] <Ms2ger> To make the irrelevant people in the HTMLWG feel they have the control they wanted
  232. # [10:00] <hober> hsivonen: yes, it's a total no-brainer to mark <style scoped> at risk
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  234. # [10:00] <othermaciej> style scoped is already on the draft at-risk list
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  236. # [10:00] <othermaciej> the only reason to discuss it is because the css wg had a cow about it
  237. # [10:01] <othermaciej> thus http://w3cmemes.tumblr.com/post/34630866378/this-space-intentionally-left-blank
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  283. # [11:29] <hsivonen> does anyone here have a computer with jpegtran on it?
  284. # [11:30] <hsivonen> it would be interesting to convert a jpeg image to arithmetic coding and see if browsers happen to support that already
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  286. # [11:34] <hsivonen> zcorpan: did you test jpeg arithmetic coding yesterday?
  287. # [11:35] <zcorpan> hsivonen: i'm not sure what that means
  288. # [11:36] <hsivonen> jpeg can use huffman coding or arithmetic coding for the entropy coding scheme. arithmetic is more efficient but pretty much everyone uses huffman for historical royalty reasons
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  290. # [11:37] <hsivonen> jpegtran lets you looslessly convert between the two
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  292. # [11:38] <hsivonen> I'm interested in knowing if browsers support arithmetic coding as side effect of updating libjpeg after aritmetic coding became RF
  293. # [11:39] * hsivonen regrets not bringing a laptop now
  294. # [11:40] <hsivonen> maybe I can run jpegtran in the cloud
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  300. # [11:49] <hsivonen> jgraham: can generate an arithmetic code jpeg and see if browsers render it?
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  302. # [11:51] <jgraham> http://hoppipolla.co.uk/410/test.jpg <- doesn't work for me
  303. # [11:51] <jgraham> (works locally in gimp)
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  311. # [12:03] <hsivonen> jgraham: thanks. oh well. need to test IE still, but no free ride here :-(
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  314. # [12:20] <hsivonen> xforms mentioned
  315. # [12:21] <MikeSmith> awaken John Boyer
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  320. # [12:29] <annevk> http://notifications.spec.whatwg.org/
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  322. # [12:29] <annevk> http://quirks.spec.whatwg.org/ is also there, but zcorpan needs to commit some cleanup
  323. # [12:29] <annevk> both are synced from GitHub per usual
  324. # [12:29] <hober> word
  325. # [12:29] <annevk> Hixie: ^^ /specs/ can be updated now
  326. # [12:30] <annevk> MikeSmith: he's around?
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  328. # [12:31] <MikeSmith> annevk: no that's why I said "awaken"
  329. # [12:31] <annevk> ah
  330. # [12:33] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, is that a kind of bingo?
  331. # [12:33] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: yes
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  336. # [12:35] <jgraham> "we are writing a spec here for HTML, not for the entire browser environment"
  337. # [12:37] <zcorpan> annevk: thanks
  338. # [12:40] <annevk> I guess it's dinner time right?
  339. # [12:40] <annevk> euh lunch
  340. # [12:40] <annevk> with wine
  341. # [12:40] <annevk> hmmm
  342. # [12:42] <zcorpan> SGML-based templates?
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  389. # [14:04] <zcorpan> annevk: do we want to move file-bug.js out of the quirks repo?
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  391. # [14:04] <annevk> zcorpan: where should we put it?
  392. # [14:04] <Ms2ger> zcorpan, sounds like a sensible thing to do
  393. # [14:04] <Ms2ger> A repo of its own?
  394. # [14:04] <annevk> I meant which server
  395. # [14:05] <zcorpan> dunno, maybe a new repo and new subdomain on *.whatwg.org for common resources like scripts
  396. # [14:05] <zcorpan> maybe move dfn.js etc there as well
  397. # [14:05] <annevk> more subdomains
  398. # [14:05] <annevk> "resources"?
  399. # [14:05] <annevk> wfm
  400. # [14:05] <Ms2ger> cdn.whatwg.org
  401. # [14:06] <annevk> heh
  402. # [14:06] <annevk> so many DNS requests
  403. # [14:06] <annevk> Steve Souders would not be impressed
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  423. # [14:58] <jgraham> MikeSmith: We have pywebsocket running on port 80?
  424. # [14:58] <MikeSmith> yes
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  426. # [14:58] <MikeSmith> if it does not seem to be working correctly lemme know
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  428. # [14:59] <MikeSmith> but I would think that for you to use it i'd need to install whatever handler you are using for your tests
  429. # [14:59] <jgraham> No, idea, just need to change a bunch of 8007s to 80s
  430. # [14:59] <MikeSmith> ok
  431. # [14:59] <jgraham> Yeah, we have a bunch of handlers zcorpan is reviewing
  432. # [14:59] <MikeSmith> ok
  433. # [15:00] <zcorpan> the pywebsocket on w3c-test.org is using the apache module rather than standalone.py, right?
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  436. # [15:02] <darobin> did we get anywhere with the discussion on standardising on something for the server side of testing?
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  440. # [15:06] <GPHemsley> Incidentally, quirks. does not appear to be working. Unless that's what you meant by "zcorpan needs to commit some cleanup", annevk.
  441. # [15:06] <GPHemsley> BTW: Is anyone going to the IETF conference in Atlanta next week?
  442. # [15:06] <zcorpan> GPHemsley: what is not working?
  443. # [15:06] <jgraham> darobin: I spoke with sicking and hsivonen a bit, so I have a better grasp of Mozilla's requirements
  444. # [15:07] <GPHemsley> zcorpan: The domain didn't resolve for me
  445. # [15:07] <jgraham> But we need to loop in the WebKit people of various kinds
  446. # [15:07] <GPHemsley> oh
  447. # [15:07] <GPHemsley> nevermind
  448. # [15:07] <GPHemsley> works now
  449. # [15:07] <zcorpan> ok. maybe a dns problem previously, since it was a new subdomain.
  450. # [15:07] <jgraham> And then we need to find the releng people (or ateam?) at Moz.
  451. # [15:07] <darobin> jgraham: ok, cool — will you post some form of plan or some such to test-infra?
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  453. # [15:07] <jgraham> Yeah
  454. # [15:08] <darobin> coolness
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  464. # [15:21] <jgraham> MikeSmith: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webapps/file/5b8b8f36e272/WebSockets/tests/submissions/Opera/handlers
  465. # [15:22] <jgraham> Dunno what you have to do with them
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  471. # [15:23] <MikeSmith> jgraham: me looking nwo
  472. # [15:23] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: so the tests expect the resources to be available at the root when accessing over ws: or wss:
  473. # [15:24] <MikeSmith> OK think I will symlink them to where they expected to be
  474. # [15:24] <zcorpan> that can be changed if we want, we need to change the port anyway
  475. # [15:25] <jgraham> Yeah, if you need the tests to change it isn't a problem
  476. # [15:25] <jgraham> Have a metric shitload of changes to make anyway
  477. # [15:25] <MikeSmith> I think I can manage to get them in the root
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  479. # [15:31] <MikeSmith> ok it's currently configured to look for them under /ws
  480. # [15:32] <jgraham> so e.g. /ws/echo?
  481. # [15:32] <jgraham> Thanks
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  483. # [15:32] <MikeSmith> yeah
  484. # [15:33] <MikeSmith> config file has this:
  485. # [15:33] <MikeSmith> PythonOption mod_pywebsocket.handler_root /var/www
  486. # [15:33] <MikeSmith> PythonOption mod_pywebsocket.handler_scan /var/www/ws
  487. # [15:34] <MikeSmith> I assumed those two values might need to be different
  488. # [15:34] <MikeSmith> but I guess on your test server they must be set to the same
  489. # [15:34] <MikeSmith> if your server's looking for the handlers in the root
  490. # [15:34] <MikeSmith> so I can change it to that too if you want
  491. # [15:35] <MikeSmith> or leave it as-is and you change your tests to look in /ws instead
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  493. # [15:35] <zcorpan> i get an error with make:
  494. # [15:35] <zcorpan> [Errno 20] Not a directory: 'data/specs.json'
  495. # [15:35] <zcorpan> make: *** [Overview.html] Error 1
  496. # [15:36] <zcorpan> was there some change to anolis?
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  499. # [15:44] <GPHemsley> Argh, the definition-lookup script doesn't work on the multipage version of HTML.
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  502. # [15:47] <GPHemsley> Double argh... the real list is really long ;_l
  503. # [15:47] <GPHemsley> (apparently my left eye has a pencil stuck in it)
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  515. # [16:02] <annevk> zcorpan: i'll fix that up
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  518. # [16:07] <annevk> zcorpan: actually, I'll let you fix that up
  519. # [16:07] <GPHemsley> Hixie: ping
  520. # [16:08] <annevk> zcorpan: just copy the style from other repositories, and clone xref
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  526. # [16:13] <GPHemsley> Hixie: Regarding bug 19799, would it be enough to define "resource header" (and perhaps the "read the resource header" algorithm) outside of the main sniffing algorithm?
  527. # [16:14] <zcorpan> good news everyone http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2012Nov/0002.html
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  530. # [16:21] <miketaylr> annevk: http://miketaylr.com/post/bc3c5669.png weird title
  531. # [16:21] <annevk> miketaylr: http://fullscreen.spec.whatwg.org/ does not have this problem
  532. # [16:22] <miketaylr> heh, ok
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  534. # [16:23] <annevk> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/fullscreen for some reason MikeSmith reverted the move
  535. # [16:23] <annevk> anyway, nobody is maintaining the W3C copy afaik
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  537. # [16:23] <zcorpan> miketaylr: i complained about the robots.txt on dvcs.w3.org and w3.org before but maybe nothing happened
  538. # [16:24] <miketaylr> the lsd.taxonconcept.org looks might suspicious too, zcorpan
  539. # [16:24] <miketaylr> s/might/mighty/
  540. # [16:24] <annevk> zcorpan: see logs btw
  541. # [16:24] <zcorpan> annevk: what style, specifically?
  542. # [16:24] <MikeSmith> wtf where did the lsd.taxconcept.org come from
  543. # [16:25] <annevk> zcorpan: so clone whatwg/xref and put it next to whatwg/quirks
  544. # [16:25] <annevk> zcorpan: then change the data/ paths to ../xref/ paths
  545. # [16:25] <miketaylr> h4x
  546. # [16:25] <MikeSmith> miketaylr: ↑
  547. # [16:25] <annevk> zcorpan: be happy
  548. # [16:25] <miketaylr> MikeSmith: just a google search
  549. # [16:25] <zcorpan> annevk: i cloned xref and made a symlink of data/ to ../xref/
  550. # [16:26] <annevk> zcorpan: i'd prefer if it you did something that worked for other working with your repo
  551. # [16:26] <annevk> others*
  552. # [16:27] <karlcow> https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=taxonconcept+fullscreen+&hl=en&gs_l=heirloom-serp.3...2772.7948.0.8318.15.15.0.0.0.0.284.1359.8j4j1.13.0...0.0...1c.1.FhyoTQ-Htf4&;oq=taxonconcept+fullscreen+
  553. # [16:27] <miketaylr> MikeSmith: check .htaccess for anything suspicious?
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  555. # [16:29] <zcorpan> annevk: fair enough. i still get the same error though, which is weird... ([Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'data/specs.json')
  556. # [16:29] <zcorpan> actually not the same error
  557. # [16:30] <zcorpan> but still weird
  558. # [16:30] <annevk> zcorpan: ah
  559. # [16:30] <annevk> zcorpan: you need to pass a new parameter
  560. # [16:31] <annevk> --xref="../xref"
  561. # [16:31] <annevk> and maybe update Anolis?
  562. # [16:31] <zcorpan> ok
  563. # [16:31] <annevk> this was not configurable before; Anolis kind of required a separate xref repo per spec :/
  564. # [16:32] <karlcow> MikeSmith: it might be something done on Google side too
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  566. # [16:32] <MikeSmith> fuck it's some sparql thing
  567. # [16:32] <MikeSmith> sparql leak
  568. # [16:33] <karlcow> it seems
  569. # [16:33] <annevk> i'm kinda amused by this
  570. # [16:33] <annevk> sorry
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  574. # [16:34] <MikeSmith> https://www.google.com/search?&q=lsd.taxonconcept.org
  575. # [16:35] <karlcow> Now, I wonder how Google creates its search results list.
  576. # [16:35] <karlcow> maybe a bug in their code
  577. # [16:35] <MikeSmith> karlcow: I guess probably made the mercurial server a "sparql endpoint"
  578. # [16:35] <MikeSmith> wha
  579. # [16:35] <MikeSmith> whatever that is
  580. # [16:36] <miketaylr> it's cool, let's all just use duckduckgo and pretend it never happened
  581. # [16:36] <karlcow> \o/
  582. # [16:36] <MikeSmith> I can fix the robots.txt
  583. # [16:36] <MikeSmith> at least
  584. # [16:37] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: if you can remind me what it should have
  585. # [16:37] <MikeSmith> or not have
  586. # [16:37] <karlcow> I can fix the robots. Txt at least.
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  588. # [16:39] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: remove Disallow: /Bugs/ from http://www.w3.org/robots.txt
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  590. # [16:41] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: and http://dvcs.w3.org/robots.txt disallows everything which is not so nice
  591. # [16:41] <zcorpan> unless you're w3c-checklink
  592. # [16:41] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: ah I can't do it for www.w3.org but I can for dvcs.w3.org
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  594. # [16:42] <zcorpan> i tried reinstalling anolis which appeared to succeed but i still get the same error message, so i guess it uses the old anolis.
  595. # [16:44] <zcorpan> $ anolis --version
  596. # [16:44] <zcorpan> anolis 1.2pre
  597. # [16:44] <zcorpan> --help says there's an --xref option
  598. # [16:46] <zcorpan> so the error now is [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '../xref--w3c-shortname=quirks-mode/specs.json'
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  600. # [16:47] <annevk> where is xref located?
  601. # [16:47] <annevk> ../xref relative to the dir?
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  606. # [16:48] <zcorpan> oh i made a mistake in MakeFile
  607. # [16:48] <annevk> yeah, looks like there's no space there
  608. # [16:48] <annevk> you won't need w3c-shortname and such either anymore
  609. # [16:48] <annevk> other Makefiles are much much shorter
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  613. # [16:52] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: fixed dvcs.w3.org robots.txt
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  615. # [16:54] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: thanks
  616. # [16:56] <zcorpan> ok checked in an initial cleanup
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  630. # [17:09] <hsivonen> 386 opportunity: see first comment at https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/11/html5-mythbusting/
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  633. # [17:16] * zcorpan tweaked the logo of http://quirks.spec.whatwg.org/
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  635. # [17:17] <hober> zcorpan: nice
  636. # [17:17] <zcorpan> hober: thanks
  637. # [17:18] <hober> what's with the margin-bottom: 30% on <body>?
  638. # [17:19] <zcorpan> i think that was added to solve the problem of linking to things that are near the end of the page in the multipage version of html, and it wasn't obvious what was linked to when it wasn't aligned with the top of the page
  639. # [17:19] <zcorpan> but now we have highlighting for that, so maybe the margin is unnecessary
  640. # [17:20] <zcorpan> Hixie: ^
  641. # [17:21] <zcorpan> #html-wg discusses EME API blocking the UI thread
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  643. # [17:24] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: can you make http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/quirks-mode/raw-file/tip/Overview.html redirect to http://quirks.spec.whatwg.org/ please?
  644. # [17:24] <zcorpan> or can i do that myself?
  645. # [17:25] <MikeSmith> yeah you can with an .htaccess file I think
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  647. # [17:25] <zcorpan> should i kill the files in the hg repo?
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  651. # [17:30] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: yeah
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  653. # [17:30] <MikeSmith> no need to keep them there
  654. # [17:30] <MikeSmith> as far as I can see
  655. # [17:30] <MikeSmith> oh unless you want to preserve the history
  656. # [17:31] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: I'm noticing that the validator code's not yet checking rel values on area element
  657. # [17:31] <MikeSmith> as it now does for the link and a elements
  658. # [17:32] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: the history is in github
  659. # [17:32] <MikeSmith> ok
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  661. # [17:32] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: the tests are there and are mirrored on w3c-test.org, so maybe i should have that be the canonical place for the tests
  662. # [17:33] <MikeSmith> yeah that'd make sense
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  667. # [17:40] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: i tried and failed. :-/ http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/quirks-mode/file/1ef6ee6f995f/.htaccess http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/quirks-mode/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
  668. # [17:41] <MikeSmith> ok man
  669. # [17:41] <MikeSmith> will take a look
  670. # [17:42] <zcorpan> cheers
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  676. # [17:49] <zcorpan> Hixie: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/ needs updating of the quirks link
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  787. # [22:05] <Hixie> fwiw, re the cdn.whatwg.org idea, i already use images.whatwg.org or some such for the images in the whatwg spec
  788. # [22:05] <Hixie> whatwg.org/specs is updated
  789. # [22:06] <Hixie> and you guys are cracking me up with your logo variants, love it
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  793. # [22:06] <Hixie> GPHemsley: pong
  794. # [22:06] <GPHemsley> Hixie: Nevermind, I went ahead with what I said. :P
  795. # [22:06] <Hixie> k
  796. # [22:07] * GPHemsley wonders how long it takes DreamHost to fully set up a new subdomain...
  797. # [22:08] * GPHemsley doesn't remember it taking this long.
  798. # [22:08] <Hixie> usually just a few minutes
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  801. # [22:11] * Hixie finds a random subdirectory on his account called whatwg.org that is empty of useful files
  802. # [22:11] <Hixie> nothing quite like the nervousness of typing "rm -rf whatwg.org"
  803. # [22:11] <Hixie> on the live webserver
  804. # [22:12] <GPHemsley> :)
  805. # [22:12] <GPHemsley> Did you at one point move from whatwg.org to www.whatwg.org?
  806. # [22:12] <Hixie> no, no idea what this directory was for
  807. # [22:13] <Hixie> spec.whatwg.org was pointing to it though
  808. # [22:13] <GPHemsley> oh, yes
  809. # [22:13] <GPHemsley> I became quite familiar with that directory
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  811. # [22:13] <Hixie> hm?
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  813. # [22:13] <Hixie> oh
  814. # [22:13] <Hixie> right
  815. # [22:14] <GPHemsley> kept wishing for something to show up
  816. # [22:14] <Hixie> hopefulyl should be fixed now
  817. # [22:14] <GPHemsley> if by "fixed" you mean "404ing"
  818. # [22:14] <Hixie> yeah well
  819. # [22:14] <Hixie> see above
  820. # [22:14] <Hixie> * GPHemsley wonders how long it takes DreamHost to fully set up a new subdomain...
  821. # [22:14] <GPHemsley> ah
  822. # [22:14] <GPHemsley> heh
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  826. # [22:19] <GPHemsley> well, it's a coming soon page now
  827. # [22:19] <GPHemsley> I, on the other hand, have nothing
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  829. # [22:20] <GPHemsley> Does anyone else think Google 404 pages are remarkably unhelpful, considering what Google is?
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  831. # [22:22] <GPHemsley> (oh, but I just noticed the page title is funny-ish)
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  844. # [22:43] <GPHemsley> "In case you were wondering, the HTTP specification states that, in
  845. # [22:43] <GPHemsley> the case of duplicates, the client should always use the last value specified
  846. # [22:43] <GPHemsley> for that duplicate header."
  847. # [22:43] <GPHemsley> Anyone know what section such a statement might be?
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  850. # [22:44] <Ms2ger> An imaginary one?
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  853. # [22:45] <Hixie> that can't be right
  854. # [22:45] <Hixie> duplicate Link: or Set-Cookie: headers for example
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  857. # [22:46] <GPHemsley> Yeah, well, I assumed it was referring to the ones that don't allow having multiple instances
  858. # [22:46] <GPHemsley> but I was looking for this the other day, and all indications were that the HTTP spec didn't say what to do
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  860. # [22:51] <GPHemsley> hmm... DNS has finally come around, but I still have a bad_httpd_conf error :/
  861. # [22:51] <GPHemsley> not that anyone here particularly cares..
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  864. # [23:00] <GPHemsley> aha!
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  866. # [23:07] <Hixie> hmm
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  875. # [23:33] <Hixie> GPHemsley: the changes to mimesniff seem positive, though it's a bit ambiguous which resource things refer to since none of the algorithms take a resource as an argument as far as i can tell :-)
  876. # [23:34] <Hixie> Also the "rules for distinguishing if a resource is text or binary" don't seem to return anything, instead they set the return value of another algorithm? Not sure I follow
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