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  1. # Session Start: Sat Dec 08 00:00:01 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
  3. # [00:00] <annevk> gavinc: is it stupid? I haven't heard of anyone doing anything with it other than the email to the list
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  5. # [00:03] <Hixie> marcosc: yt?
  6. # [00:04] <karlcow> In http://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/dom.html#dom-document-lastmodified
  7. # [00:04] <karlcow> is there an issue in not knowing the time zone?
  8. # [00:04] <Hixie> that API has all kinds of issues
  9. # [00:04] <karlcow> ah no
  10. # [00:05] <karlcow> user local tz… I read it in my mind as server tz
  11. # [00:05] <karlcow> for the rest yes I agree. It's messy
  12. # [00:05] <karlcow> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4363
  13. # [00:05] <karlcow> I wish it was not an american format for the date too.
  14. # [00:06] <Hixie> if we were not in insane land, it would be a Date object or some such
  15. # [00:08] <karlcow> it was before for webkit and opera, firefox and IE had the format of the spec.
  16. # [00:08] <karlcow> I should run the tests again to see what's done now
  17. # [00:09] <gavinc> annevk: mmm, the shim thing from orion is the only thing your aware of then?
  18. # [00:09] <annevk> think so, only wrote the spec a few days ago
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  20. # [00:10] <gavinc> annevk: another engineer here just sat down to write query string parsing in Javascript and was hoping that we could just implement the spec, but don't seem to have the underlying URL object as a shim to start from :\
  21. # [00:11] <annevk> yeah, that's why I'm trying to fix it (and others before me)
  22. # [00:12] * gavinc nods
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  24. # [00:13] <TabAtkins> Hixie: It feels like you rejected both of my ruby bugs after only skimming them. :/ Your comments either show that you didn't understand the problem, or that you're hyperbolizing and making demonstrably false objections.
  25. # [00:13] <TabAtkins> (Both of these assertions are backed up in my reopening responses.)
  26. # [00:13] <Hixie> TabAtkins: please feel free to reopen them explaining why i'm wrong, but i assure you that i did not just skim them.
  27. # [00:14] <TabAtkins> I did, for both.
  28. # [00:14] <karlcow> Indeed Opera fixed it according to the spec
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  39. # [00:47] <Hixie> TabAtkins: thanks
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  55. # [01:16] <Hixie> so i know the spec is wrong about this too, but opera is _way_ wrong: http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/2006
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  61. # [01:18] <Hixie> anyone with IE about able to give me the log from http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?saved=2007 ?
  62. # [01:21] <Hixie> (if you do, please update bug 20285 with the results)
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  64. # [01:24] <zewt> posts titled "off-topic discussion policy" make me want to just unsubscribe and be done with the BS
  65. # [01:24] <zewt> no list needs an "off-topic discussion policy"
  66. # [01:25] <Hixie> the whatwg list has one
  67. # [01:25] <zewt> i'm not going to read it but i assume it's basically written to say "if we're plagiarising, don't tell people about it"
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  69. # [01:26] <Hixie> the web-apps wg's policy just says to not discuss the process document and the like
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  71. # [01:26] <Hixie> it doesn't exclude the recent threads as far as i can tell
  72. # [01:26] <zewt> (i never read any rules or policies on any discussion group; either they reflect regular, reasonable behavior that i'm going to do anyway, or they're unreasonable and I'm not going to follow them)
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  74. # [01:27] <Hixie> hober: i marked your dupes as dupes, please feel free to reopen them if there's something i'm missing
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  102. # [02:27] <marcosc> Hixie, thanks for the feedback on the bugs
  103. # [02:27] <marcosc> I'll provide more details wherever I can
  104. # [02:38] <kbrosnan> Hixie: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1981890 IE 10
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  152. # [04:22] <Hixie> kbrosnan: awesome, thaks
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  178. # [06:58] <jordanbtucker> hi guys
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  180. # [06:59] <jordanbtucker> is there a way to view one of the html spec pages at a specific revision?
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  186. # [07:35] <MikeSmith> jordanbtucker: not unless you check out the source from svn and view it locally
  187. # [07:35] <MikeSmith> well there's a github mirror but that uses different revision numbers
  188. # [07:36] <MikeSmith> also with that all you do online is view the raw HTML as plain text
  189. # [07:36] <jordanbtucker> MikeSmith: does the svn include the multipage version?
  190. # [07:42] <MikeSmith> jordanbtucker: no it does not
  191. # [07:43] <jordanbtucker> thanks for the info
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  235. # [11:07] <annevk> I'm having a hard time reading the Shadow DOM algorithms :/
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  242. # [12:00] <MikeSmith> annevk: why so?
  243. # [12:02] <Velmont> annevk: Ohh, didn't see that one. Thanks <4
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  332. # [18:06] <Hixie> man this is all kinds of wrong. data:text/html,<!DOCTYPE html><b><i><a><s><tt><div></b>first</div></tt></s></a>second</i>
  333. # [18:06] <Hixie> anyone happened to have the AAA paged in already who knows how to fix this?
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  345. # [19:52] <asmodai> Hixie: people who write that stuff ought to have their internet access revoked
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  349. # [19:57] <Hixie> asmodai: that was just a test case
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  357. # [20:19] <zewt> gah
  358. # [20:19] <zewt> does anyone know the magic words to make chrome *really* stop with the broken address bar autocomplete
  359. # [20:20] <zewt> i have the "help complete searches" thing turned off, yet it still screws with what i type nonstop
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  361. # [20:41] <asmodai> Hixie: Ah ok
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  363. # [20:43] <smaug____> zewt: the magic words are: Switch to Firefox. ;)
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  365. # [20:48] <zewt> i do, but it's about 10x slower at searching from the address bar :|
  366. # [20:48] <zewt> i can choose the browser that inserts words I didn't type, or the one that takes several seconds to search
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