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  27. # [02:12] <odinho> Is there a testtwf irc channel?
  28. # [02:14] <odinho> Little webapps presence :/
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  46. # [03:11] <Hixie> can anyone think of a way i can get firefox to render a glyph from the zapfino ornaments collection?
  47. # [03:12] <Hixie> maybe via svg or something?
  48. # [03:12] <Hixie> some way to convert it to a path?
  49. # [03:13] <heycam> in theory you have altGlyph in SVG which should let you select an arbitrary glyph, but in practice it's underspecified and doesn't work
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  51. # [03:13] <heycam> can't think of another way to select glyphs from a font...
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  53. # [03:15] <Hixie> maybe exporting the glyph as pdf somehow and using an iframe?
  54. # [03:15] <Hixie> this doesn't have to be pretty, it's for a quick hack to do a print run
  55. # [03:16] <heycam> in pdf you can select arbitrary glyphs (though don't ask me how)
  56. # [03:16] <Hixie> well i can select the glyph in pages.app, and print to pdf from there
  57. # [03:16] <heycam> ah
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  59. # [03:17] <heycam> or you could just open it up in font forge, add a cmap entry to the glyph (maybe from a PUA code point) so you can select it in html
  60. # [03:17] <Hixie> hm, that's an idea
  61. # [03:19] <Hixie> bummer, iframing a pdf shows all kinds of UI in gecko
  62. # [03:19] * Hixie goes to get font forge
  63. # [03:20] <heycam> don't know if inkscape can select arbitrary glyphs from fonts; you could do that too, then convert to a patch and save as svg
  64. # [03:20] <heycam> illustrator likely can
  65. # [03:21] <Hixie> inkscape will be easier than font forge, looks like
  66. # [03:21] <heycam> if you can get the text in there. I'm not convinced you'll be able to.
  67. # [03:22] <Hixie> 83MB, jesus, vectors are getting heavier
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  72. # [03:49] <Hixie> heycam: i made version about 20 times bigger as a png and scaled it down instead...
  73. # [03:49] <Hixie> we'll see if that prints at full res
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  75. # [03:58] <heycam> ha fair enough
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  80. # [04:21] <odinho> $ GET -Sseu "http://www1.w3c-test.org/webappsec/tests/cors/submitted/opera/staging/resources/cors-makeheader.php?get_value=a&origin=http%3A%2F%2Fw3c-test.org%001"
  81. # [04:21] <odinho> Uh, that one doesn't even return the Access-Control-Accept-Origin: header. Something even more broken than before? :|
  82. # [04:22] <odinho> Maybe some PHP reviewing stuff that makes the old version exist on the server, but not a new one.
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  142. # [09:40] <Hixie> hah
  143. # [09:41] <Hixie> i was just looking through old bugs and we got at least 7 separate bugs about the term "outlinee" over the years
  144. # [09:41] <jgraham> This is what happens if you willfully violate English?
  145. # [09:43] <Ms2ger> Good morning
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  154. # [09:58] <Hixie> jgraham: it was fine english
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  156. # [09:59] <Ms2ger> Of course it was
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  158. # [10:01] <Hixie> sweet, broke 200 bugs (on the way down)
  159. # [10:01] <Hixie> lowest point since jan
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  255. # [16:30] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: bugzilla.validator.nu is unresponsive
  256. # [16:36] <Ms2ger> "The createTBody() method must create a new tbody element, insert it immediately after the last tbody element in the table element, ..."
  257. # [16:36] <Ms2ger> Does "in" refer to children or descendants?
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  275. # [19:02] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Children I expect, but you are right that isn't up to Hixie's usual standards
  276. # [19:02] <Ms2ger> You don't happen to have tests for it? :)
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  279. # [19:14] <jgraham> I don't think so
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  289. # [19:43] <Ms2ger> "If you're a student and want to hack some #scala applied to #rdf and #ldp"
  290. # [19:43] <Ms2ger> Sounds like something that would constant-fold to "If false"
  291. # [19:46] <gsnedders> Ms2ger: I believe Opera to have exactly zero tests for createTBody. :)
  292. # [19:46] <Ms2ger> gsnedders, does it implement createTBody? :)
  293. # [19:46] <jgraham> wtf is ldp?
  294. # [19:47] <Ms2ger> Lunatic Distributed Processing?
  295. # [19:47] <gsnedders> Ms2ger: Dunno.
  296. # [19:48] <Ms2ger> I guess I should write some
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  301. # [19:50] <Ms2ger> And I guess nobody wants to review https://github.com/Ms2ger/web-platform-tests/commit/c82dc1b47c8762a60a6c70b5140dcaa5f97a8f5d
  302. # [19:52] <jgraham> Ms2ger: No pull request?
  303. # [19:52] <Ms2ger> I thought I made one...
  304. # [19:52] <jgraham> Also, there is a special place in hell reserved for people that rebind "/" on their websites
  305. # [19:52] <jgraham> Yes github, I'm looking at you
  306. # [19:53] <Ms2ger> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/45
  307. # [19:57] <jgraham> How about I ask for a formatting change and we try again :)
  308. # [19:58] <Ms2ger> Hmm?
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  311. # [20:00] <jgraham> Linebreaks between the test()s
  312. # [20:01] <jgraham> There should have been critic mail
  313. # [20:01] <jgraham> Dunno what happened to it
  314. # [20:01] <jgraham> Oh, there was
  315. # [20:04] <Ms2ger> "New(ish) Review"
  316. # [20:04] <Ms2ger> That's a first
  317. # [20:08] <Ms2ger> jgraham, there you go
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  320. # [20:13] <GPHemsley> Does anyone know if there is a standards-track (or other proprietary) equivalent to the CSS -webkit-font-smoothing property? or have any other opinions on the property?
  321. # [20:14] <GPHemsley> Similarly, for (-ms-)zoom?
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  323. # [20:31] <Ms2ger> jgraham, did you have any more comments? ;)
  324. # [20:35] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Possibly? I haven't finished yet
  325. # [20:35] <jgraham> :)
  326. # [20:35] <jgraham> Also I am going to take a break now
  327. # [20:36] <Ms2ger> Dammit :)
  328. # [20:36] <Ms2ger> Thanks, though :)
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  355. # [22:28] <zewt> dear bugzilla, stop redirecting me to "process_bug.cgi" whenever i submit; what kind of ancient nonsense is that, anyway
  356. # [22:29] <zewt> ... https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20141 the fact that I actually have to argue against this insanity chips away at my hope for the web some more
  357. # [22:30] <zewt> "we should make console.log automatically bound to console!" why? "to save 14 characters of typing!" that's crazy "what are the use cases for not doing this?" sigh
  358. # [22:31] <Hixie> if you have two Console objects, is there any state in them that is different between them?
  359. # [22:31] <zewt> calling console.log on another window logs to that window's console
  360. # [22:32] <zewt> that is, it's not effectively a static method
  361. # [22:32] <Hixie> well then how can it be bound
  362. # [22:32] <zewt> but the proposal here is to basically act as if you did console.log = console.log.bind(console)
  363. # [22:33] <zewt> and i'm saying nothing in the platform does that and stop adding weird new things to save a little typing in uncommon cases
  364. # [22:33] <Hixie> so console1.apply(console2, 'test') would go to console2?
  365. # [22:33] <Hixie> or console1?
  366. # [22:33] <Hixie> er
  367. # [22:33] <zewt> i don't know, the proposal hasn't been fleshed out that much (and I'm not fleshing it out, since I'm arguing against it)
  368. # [22:33] <Hixie> console1.log.apply(console2
  369. # [22:34] <Hixie> i'd use this as an argument.
  370. # [22:34] <zewt> if they did it i would hope it would just piggyback on .bind's semantics though
  371. # [22:34] <Hixie> good luck!
  372. # [22:34] <zewt> heh
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