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  1. # Session Start: Sun May 05 00:00:00 2013
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  4. # [00:11] <gsnedders> ambv: Yes, once I think of a sane way to include it/document it. Do I have a 2.6-test specific requirements file? Seems ugly.
  5. # [00:12] <ambv> ignore the fact that it's tests and simply add ordereddict to setup.py for 2.6. this will require moving the install_requires list out of setup() and to build it dynamically
  6. # [00:13] <gsnedders> But it's only required for the testsuite, so that seems inappropriate.
  7. # [00:14] <ambv> if you distribute it in the tarball then it's fine. if not, then just wrap the import error to return a meaningful error message
  8. # [00:16] <ambv> adding it for Tox is trivial, for Travis just add it to requirements-test.txt
  9. # [00:16] <ambv> for Python > 2.6 it's completely useless but it installs alright, harmless
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  11. # [00:19] <gsnedders> Just a waste of a bit of time, really :)
  12. # [00:19] <gsnedders> But, well, small enough that's probably not an issue.
  13. # [00:20] <ambv> gsnedders: on an unrelated note, where to put the test for #6?
  14. # [00:21] <ambv> I *think* I fixed the issue, want to add the test before PRing
  15. # [00:22] <gsnedders> parser2.py I guess?
  16. # [00:22] <gsnedders> I dunno, really. :)
  17. # [00:23] <ambv> parser2 it is
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  21. # [00:25] <gsnedders> ambv: For tox, I don't need a separate commands dfn under [testenv:py26], do I?
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  23. # [00:26] <ambv> gsnedders: no, only specify "basepython = python2.6"
  24. # [00:26] <ambv> and all deps, it's not cumulative
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  27. # [00:31] <gsnedders> ambv: Does #41 look right to you?
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  29. # [00:34] <ambv> haha, I was about to tell
  30. # [00:34] <ambv> "apart from the empty line at the end of tox.ini…"
  31. # [00:34] <ambv> :)
  32. # [00:35] <ambv> gsnedders: what if people depended on the sorting behaviour that you now remove?
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  34. # [00:36] <gsnedders> ambv: Then oh well. It makes no change to the semantics of the output. And we've frequently changed behaviour in edge-cases in pre-1.0 releases.
  35. # [00:37] <gsnedders> ambv: Like, the only reason it breaks the tests is because we do a byte-for-byte comparison and not the semantics of the output.
  36. # [00:38] <ambv> I'm asking more about: how does a person like that restore the previous behaviour?
  37. # [00:39] <ambv> for (attr_namespace, attr_name), attr_value in self.reorder_attributes(token["data"].items()):
  38. # [00:40] <gsnedders> ambv: What we should probably do, ideally, is add a new filter that reorders them and not do it in JsonWalker.
  39. # [00:40] <gsnedders> ambv: Then anyone can use the filter.
  40. # [00:40] <ambv> I have to check out filters
  41. # [00:41] <ambv> but JsonWalker? Hm?
  42. # [00:42] <gsnedders> In test_serializer.py
  43. # [00:43] <ambv> ah, yes, we could reuse the functionality for tests if we added it, right.
  44. # [00:44] <ambv> filters mutate the tree after building it, do I get that right?
  45. # [00:44] <ambv> hm, my English sucks. "filters mutate the tree after it has been built, right?"
  46. # [00:45] <ambv> and a Filter sounds great, solves the issue and frees you from OrderedDict
  47. # [00:45] <ambv> :>
  48. # [00:46] <gsnedders> ambv: Some are designed to be used to process the tree as being built, intercepting tokens from the tokenizer before passing on to the treebuilder, and others while getting tokens from treewalker.
  49. # [00:46] <gsnedders> Kinda sucks.
  50. # [00:46] <gsnedders> ambv: Still need OrderedDict, though
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  55. # [01:23] <ambv> gsnedders: more reviewing to do! https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-python/pull/42
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  463. # [13:54] <gsnedders> jgraham: You have something in the SourceForge PyPI issue.
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  483. # [14:56] <ambv> gsnedders: oops, I broke Critic. Seems it can't handle commit --amend
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  488. # [15:25] <odinho> ambv It can, but you need to tell it to get ready for a rebase.
  489. # [15:25] <odinho> It was made for rebasing. We do it all the time at Opera.
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  491. # [15:29] <gsnedders> odinho: But you can only rewrite history that's already pushed, you can't push a rewrite otherwise
  492. # [15:30] <gsnedders> On the other hand, GitHub just loses all comments if you amend a commit, which isn't great. :P
  493. # [15:30] <gsnedders> jgraham: s quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
  494. # [15:30] <gsnedders> jgraham: https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/100 is broken because of a non-ff commit, plz fix.
  495. # [15:47] <jgraham> Right, you *can* push a rebase, but you need to tell it that you are going to do that
  496. # [15:48] <jgraham> Which is harder to do if github is also involved, I guess
  497. # [15:50] <jgraham> Nice of sourceforge to send email
  498. # [15:51] * jgraham isn't sure what the brokenness in that review is
  499. # [15:51] <jgraham> And I have to go rake up "grass"
  500. # [15:51] <jgraham> Where "grass" is actually distressingly lots of moss
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  502. # [15:55] <gsnedders> jgraham: Non-fast-forward commit to tracking branch, hence it is no longer tracking.
  503. # [15:55] <gsnedders> jgraham: Or you mean at a lower level than that?
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  505. # [15:56] <gsnedders> jgraham: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16378996/python-nose-tests-from-generator-not-running-concurrently is relevant for html5lib
  506. # [15:56] <gsnedders> (FYI)
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  521. # [17:07] <ambv> gsnedders: in other words, I should check whether tags are HTML or alien? HTMLSanitizerMixin has a acceptable_elements attribute which I could use for that. Seems like mixing concerns, though.
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  600. # [21:26] <gsnedders> ambv: It should just be a case of outputting what is in the DOM, there shouldn't be any real magic needed?
  601. # [21:26] <gsnedders> Unless, of course, we build the DOM incorrectly. But I'd be surprised.
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  603. # [21:29] <ambv> let me see
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  607. # [21:41] <ambv> gsnedders: can you open treebuilders/dom.py so we can agree on what's the actual bug here?
  608. # [21:42] <gsnedders> ambv: Gimme ten minutes?
  609. # [21:42] <ambv> sure thing.
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  616. # [22:11] <gsnedders> ambv: Right, okay.
  617. # [22:11] <ambv> in line 230 there's the `attributes` dict built
  618. # [22:12] <ambv> it's built from itemsNS which unfortunately returns [((None, 'lang'), 'en')]
  619. # [22:13] * gsnedders wonders what this nsmap thing is
  620. # [22:13] <ambv> information is lost at that point and this is why there's the KeyError later on
  621. # [22:14] <ambv> because node.attributes.keys() returns "xml:lang" and not bare "lang"
  622. # [22:16] <gsnedders> Yay for relying on things that are totally non-standard.
  623. # [22:18] <ambv> basically the whole dom2sax will apply namespace declarations regardless of whether they're alien or pure HTML
  624. # [22:19] <ambv> and it does have a default namespace listed in the function definition which is "xml:"
  625. # [22:19] <gsnedders> Okay, I'm thinking we should do what I wanted to do for 1.1, and add a testadapters submodule that does magic~. Rewrite dom2sax as an operation going from a treewalker.
  626. # [22:19] <gsnedders> And then the existing dom2sax can handle this.
  627. # [22:20] <gsnedders> Or rather wrap this.
  628. # [22:21] <ambv> well, it's definitely good to fix it for 1.0 but this is a new feature so at that point I cannot independently help
  629. # [22:22] <gsnedders> Well, at the moment it's totally broken :)
  630. # [22:23] <ambv> why a submodule though?
  631. # [22:23] <gsnedders> The adapters used for testing the treewalkers (see test_treewalkers.py) should be moved there.
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  633. # [22:23] <ambv> but you don't mean a git submodule?
  634. # [22:24] <gsnedders> A Python submodule.
  635. # [22:24] <ambv> yay for confusing terminology
  636. # [22:24] <ambv> haha
  637. # [22:24] <gsnedders> :)
  638. # [22:24] <ambv> OK, a Python module sounds great
  639. # [22:24] <gsnedders> Should I?
  640. # [22:24] <ambv> but
  641. # [22:25] <ambv> the module would need to be outside of the tests
  642. # [22:26] <gsnedders> Yes. But the treewalker tests already depend on the parser, so I'm not too bothered.
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  644. # [22:27] <ambv> I'm more concerned that this is a non-trivial amount of work
  645. # [22:27] <gsnedders> It's a bit evil, because the adapters rely on the treewalkers whose tests rely on the adapters, but oh well.
  646. # [22:27] <gsnedders> Half an hour's work, I'd guess.
  647. # [22:27] <ambv> well if adapters will be outside of the tests, you'll need to document and test them too
  648. # [22:30] <gsnedders> Bah, it's not like dom2sax is documented now. :P
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  650. # [22:30] <gsnedders> I'd only move dom2sax for 1.0, I expect.
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  653. # [22:32] <ambv> so, what's the plan (e.g. what should I work on now)?
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  656. # [22:34] <gsnedders> ambv: #16 is a simple copy/paste job from the spec, if you want.
  657. # [22:34] <gsnedders> ambv: Or you can make sure the docstrings are actually up to date.
  658. # [22:35] <ambv> OK, so I'll drop #6 for the time being
  659. # [22:35] <gsnedders> ambv: Or you can give an opinion of whether we should drop simpletree (i.e., our own custom tree format, which AFAIK nobody uses)
  660. # [22:35] <ambv> you might reuse test_treeadapters though
  661. # [22:35] <gsnedders> Indeed, I will.
  662. # [22:36] <ambv> I'll make a separate PR just for that then
  663. # [22:36] <ambv> this will make tests fail, though ;)
  664. # [22:37] <gsnedders> Nah, don't worry.
  665. # [22:37] <gsnedders> I'll just grab it from your repo. :)
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  667. # [22:38] <ambv> okay
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  680. # [23:29] <ambv> gsnedders: we should include SPEC.html in the repo
  681. # [23:29] <gsnedders> ambv: For what purpose?
  682. # [23:29] <ambv> so that a user can know at any point from what version the implementation was made
  683. # [23:29] <ambv> it's a living standard, last changes were put today
  684. # [23:30] * gsnedders is dubious because of the different in size it'll make
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  686. # [23:30] <ambv> copying and pasting paragraphs from the spec into source files isn't maintainable
  687. # [23:30] <gsnedders> I'd rather just document what SVN version we implemented.
  688. # [23:30] <gsnedders> (Size in terms of the size of the repo)
  689. # [23:30] <ambv> I wouldn't bundle the spec with the tarballs of course
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  692. # [23:31] <ambv> as for the repo size, a couple of MBs here and there aren't that much of a difference nowadays, are they?
  693. # [23:31] <ambv> but the SVN revision is fine as well
  694. # [23:31] <zewt> what a waste of floppy disks
  695. # [23:31] <gsnedders> ambv: It's extra data to download when cloning the repo.
  696. # [23:32] <ambv> well git manages to compress those kinds of file pretty well while cloning
  697. # [23:32] <ambv> but as I said, SVN revision works for me too
  698. # [23:33] <ambv> HM!
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  701. # [23:34] <ambv> http://svn.whatwg.org/webapps/complete.html is older than http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/
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  704. # [23:35] <Hixie> oops
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  706. # [23:36] <Hixie> fixed
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  708. # [23:43] <ambv> Hixie: thanks!
  709. # [23:44] <gsnedders> There are advantages to using #whatwg for html5lib support. :)
  710. # [23:45] <ambv> gsnedders: https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-python/pull/43
  711. # [23:46] <ambv> now the thing that bothers me is why is step 7 commented out
  712. # [23:47] <ambv> it doesn't look right anyway, should we just get rid of it
  713. # [23:47] <gsnedders> Step 7 isn't commented out, step 7 is line 1486 in your copy.
  714. # [23:47] <gsnedders> What that commented out code is I have no idea.
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  716. # [23:47] <ambv> ah, I see
  717. # [23:48] <ambv> I'll remove the code, git will remember it for us
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  719. # [23:48] <gsnedders> Indeed.
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  721. # [23:49] <gsnedders> ambv: See pull #44
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  723. # [23:50] <ambv> gsnedders: #43 is now rebased
  724. # [23:50] <ambv> looking at 33
  725. # [23:51] <ambv> *44
  726. # [23:51] * gsnedders points out rebasing stuff breaks Critic, as well as the fact that he prefers to be able to easily see changes in pull requests (thus non-fast-forward changes are hard to work out what has changed from when I last looked at the pull request)
  727. # [23:52] <ambv> OK, will use fixup from now on
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  729. # [23:53] <ambv> as for #44, +1 - this implementation makes sense to me when I read it. dom2sax didn't, confusion level: high.
  730. # [23:54] <gsnedders> :)
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  733. # [23:54] <gsnedders> ambv: I think I'm against comments from the spec in general, it's just the adoption agency algorithm is sufficently complex that I think it's useful.
  734. # [23:55] <ambv> fair enough. for comments that would be longer than the implementation I simply updated the step number
  735. # [23:57] <ambv> is doctype really capitalized "Doctype"? (line 21 in treeadapters/sax.py)
  736. # [23:57] <gsnedders> Yes.
  737. # [23:57] <ambv> yikes, that looks bad.
  738. # [23:57] <gsnedders> constants.py:3081
  739. # [23:57] <gsnedders> Really all the tokens should be classes, but oh well.
  740. # [23:59] <ambv> that's for 2.0
  741. # [23:59] <ambv> ;)
  742. # [23:59] <gsnedders> Indeed. :)
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