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  22. # [00:42] <dekiss> is it ok to put articles in sections?
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  78. # [02:28] <GPHemsley> Is there by any chance a list of CSS properties that use url() and related resource-requesting methods?
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  86. # [02:55] <dekiss> margin: 0px; margin-left: 10px; is this mistake?
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  89. # [03:14] <boogyman> dekiss: yes, "0" does not have unit.
  90. # [03:15] <SimonSapin> (0px still works, of course. Unitless is just shorter.)
  91. # [03:16] <SimonSapin> dekiss: not a mistake, no. top, bottom and right will be 0px, left 10px
  92. # [03:18] <dekiss> yeah
  93. # [03:18] <dekiss> assigning 10 same properties with different values is not mistake in css it seem so..
  94. # [03:20] <SimonSapin> shorthands are equivalent to having declarations for their longhands at the same place, and multiple declarations with the same name are fine: the last valid one is used
  95. # [03:20] <boogyman> dekiss: the rules of specificity define what gets defined as "most important"
  96. # [03:21] <dekiss> yeah
  97. # [03:22] <dekiss> oh guys
  98. # [03:22] <dekiss> im so exited abotu my project :)
  99. # [03:23] <dekiss> im not sure if I am doing this right ill paste code in jsfiddle for you to see ok?
  100. # [03:23] <dekiss> http://pastebin.com/XaBUFhmV
  101. # [03:24] <dekiss> please guys what you think about this html code?
  102. # [03:24] <dekiss> is it good?
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  105. # [03:29] <GPHemsley> SimonSapin: Do you read the logs from when you're offline?
  106. # [03:29] <SimonSapin> GPHemsley: rarely
  107. # [03:29] <SimonSapin> why?
  108. # [03:29] <GPHemsley> I posted something in here for you earlier
  109. # [03:30] <SimonSapin> http://greenbytes.de/tech/tc/datauri/ this? Yes, I’m aware of it
  110. # [03:30] <GPHemsley> ah, ok
  111. # [03:31] <SimonSapin> but haven’t looked into it in details, nor have done anything with data: for some time
  112. # [03:31] <GPHemsley> oh
  113. # [03:31] <GPHemsley> alright
  114. # [03:32] <SimonSapin> Not sure when I’ll get to it … if someone else wants to work on data:, feel free to do so
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  143. # [04:30] <GPHemsley> Is Document restricted to HTML/XML documents, or is it present in any document the browser loads?
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  145. # [04:31] <GPHemsley> And, by extension, then, is a browsing context restricted to HTML/XML documents, or does it apply to any document the browser loads?
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  329. # [15:58] <GPHemsley> Ms2ger: Actually, http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/history.html#read-media is probably more relevant
  330. # [15:58] <GPHemsley> But thanks for the pointer
  331. # [15:58] <Ms2ger> Well, yes, all the subsections there :)
  332. # [15:58] <GPHemsley> this document is so big, I have no idea these sections even exist
  333. # [15:58] <GPHemsley> I should really just assume that if I have a question, it's answered in the spec somewhere
  334. # [15:59] <GPHemsley> (which is probably why Hixie suggested I just keep the one-page version open all the time)
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  336. # [16:00] <Ms2ger> Yeah, the kitchen sink picture is more accurate than is given account for :)
  337. # [16:01] <GPHemsley> interestingly, in addition to finding out about new sections, I also find out about new places mimesniff is implicitly referenced
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  343. # [16:26] <GPHemsley> Ms2ger: 404 http://ms2ger.freehostia.com/tests/html5/browsing-the-web/load-text-plain.html
  344. # [16:26] <GPHemsley> from http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/show-tests.html?section=read-text
  345. # [16:26] <Ms2ger> Oh dear
  346. # [16:27] <Ms2ger> Should be http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master/html/browsers/browsing-the-web/read-text/load-text-plain.html
  347. # [16:27] <Ms2ger> But looks like it's broken...
  348. # [16:30] <Ms2ger> I'll fix when github comes back up
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  352. # [16:37] <GPHemsley> github is down again?
  353. # [16:37] <GPHemsley> how are they able to get away with that?
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  359. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> GPHemsley, should be fixed now
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  366. # [17:43] <GPHemsley> Ms2ger: Out of curiosity, did you check for others?
  367. # [17:43] <Ms2ger> No
  368. # [17:43] <GPHemsley> (and, of course, the other problem is that this 404s too: http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/common/text-plain.txt )
  369. # [17:43] <Ms2ger> I need to look through them all at some point
  370. # [17:44] <Ms2ger> Refresh, I should have fixed that
  371. # [17:44] <GPHemsley> ah
  372. # [17:44] <GPHemsley> yup
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  374. # [17:45] <GPHemsley> hmm...
  375. # [17:45] <GPHemsley> the reason Safari fails this test (which is the reason it caught my eye in the first place) is because it doesn't get "text/plain" out of it
  376. # [17:45] <GPHemsley> assert_equals: expected (string) "text/plain" but got (undefined) undefined
  377. # [17:46] <GPHemsley> Chrome is the same
  378. # [17:47] <GPHemsley> and apparently IE8 doesn't even run the test properly
  379. # [17:48] <boogyman> IE10 gives 404 too
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  381. # [17:49] <GPHemsley> oh, right, I was reading somewhere that document.contentType is Mozilla-only
  382. # [17:49] <GPHemsley> IE has .mimeType, but WebKit doesn't have either
  383. # [17:49] <GPHemsley> (from what I've read)
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  385. # [17:49] <GPHemsley> though apparently Opera doesn't have a problem
  386. # [17:50] <Ms2ger> It's in the spec ;)
  387. # [17:51] <GPHemsley> is it?
  388. # [17:51] <GPHemsley> these tests seem to be a problem all over
  389. # [17:51] <GPHemsley> apparently nobody implements this stuff except Mozilla
  390. # [17:52] <GPHemsley> (the read-media tests fail even worse than read-text)
  391. # [17:53] <GPHemsley> IE8 fails simply because it doesn't like data: URLs and redirects straight to them
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  404. # [18:48] <GPHemsley> I can't figure out where multipart/x-mixed-replace is defined...
  405. # [18:48] <GPHemsley> and/or what its purpose is
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  407. # [18:50] <Ms2ger> There's several assumptions there...
  408. # [18:53] <GPHemsley> ?
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  410. # [18:55] <Ms2ger> That it is defined
  411. # [18:55] <Ms2ger> That it has a purpose
  412. # [18:59] <zewt> some definition in html...
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  421. # [19:26] <GPHemsley> Ms2ger: I'll settle for a usecase or any indication as to why it is exists and is mentioned in the HTML spec :)
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  429. # [19:38] <zewt> GPHemsley: the html spec mentions mjpeg
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  431. # [19:39] <GPHemsley> ah, that instance of "multipart/x-mixed-replace" isn't linked
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  433. # [19:39] <GPHemsley> that's why I didn't find it
  434. # [19:39] * GPHemsley didn't search manually
  435. # [19:40] <GPHemsley> zewt: Thanks, though!
  436. # [19:45] <GPHemsley> looks to be the only instance not linked, despite being the only indication as what "multipart/x-mixed-replace" actually is
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  438. # [19:50] <GPHemsley> Ms2ger: It's further confusing because a MIME type registration card for multipart/x-mixed-replace is included in the spec
  439. # [19:53] <zewt> perplexed by mail to www-dom
  440. # [19:54] <zewt> someone @chromium.org who is 1: surprised that exceptions are caught during event invocation and 2: reading the TR of dom level 2
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  454. # [20:47] <Ms2ger> zewt, hrm, I think the default is to propagate exceptions, actually...
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  499. # [22:52] <dekiss> why IE didn't implemented transition in IE 9?
  500. # [22:52] <dekiss> I find this hard to understand
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