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  10. # [00:46] <gsnedders> jgraham: https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/103 has stopped tracking GitHub when I pushed a rebase (that I told Critic about) to GH.
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  12. # [00:52] <gsnedders> jgraham: "Refusing to perform a review rebase via an automatic update"
  13. # [00:53] <gsnedders> jgraham: But I can't manually update it.
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  26. # [02:01] <marcdm> gsnedders: not only did I post a bug report, I submitted a pull-request as well
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  51. # [03:27] <TabAtkins> heycam: You're spamming my inbox. >_<
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  53. # [03:27] <heycam> TabAtkins, sorry. :( couldn't find a way to do the change in bulk all at once...
  54. # [03:28] <TabAtkins> Just ask MikeSmith!
  55. # [03:28] <heycam> ah
  56. # [03:28] <heycam> well, at most 24 more bugs for me to triage, so...
  57. # [03:35] <heycam> bug spam finished
  58. # [03:35] <TabAtkins> GPHemsley: How did you get the idea that :matches() only takes two arguments? I don't see any possible way to do that, unless you're absorbing syntax by example only.
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  134. # [08:56] <zcorpan> "The move towards the ReSpec is on purpose - it's the baseline for CG specs." ?
  135. # [08:58] <jgraham> gsnedders: Rebasing tracked branches works differently. In theory https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/rebasetrackingreview?review=103 should work, although I seem to be doing it wrong.
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  178. # [10:25] <jgraham> Bah. The spec got less good as documentation when the Location API moved into URL, because now I can't tell which bits are implemented and which bits are future possibilities
  179. # [10:25] <jgraham> We really needc to get better at marking things
  180. # [10:25] <jgraham> Somehow
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  190. # [10:46] <SteveF> MikeSmith: ping
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  194. # [11:11] <MikeSmith> SteveF: hey
  195. # [11:12] <SteveF> MikseSmith: hi can you add users to the w3c github repo?
  196. # [11:12] <MikeSmith> trash
  197. # [11:12] <MikeSmith> yeah
  198. # [11:13] <MikeSmith> (Autocomplete:
  199. # [11:13] <zcorpan> annevk: yt?
  200. # [11:13] <SteveF> MikeSmith: can I ask you to add a few for the html-api-map?
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  203. # [11:21] <MikeSmith> yup
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  210. # [11:41] <SteveF> MikeSmith: do you need only usernames? or email as well?
  211. # [11:41] <MikeSmith> SteveF: just the usernames
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  213. # [11:44] <SteveF> MikeSmith: for https://github.com/w3c/html-api-map can you add asurkov and jasonkiss -thanks and FYI we now have surkov on the editors team which is great
  214. # [11:45] <MikeSmith> SteveF: ah cool yeah, getting him on is great
  215. # [11:46] <SteveF> MikeSmith: yep
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  217. # [11:54] <MikeSmith> SteveF: ok, ALex and Jason have push perms for that repo now
  218. # [11:54] <SteveF> MikeSmith: thanks!
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  237. # [13:10] <annevk> zcorpan: yeah
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  240. # [13:14] <zcorpan> annevk: i was going to ask about Fetch and CORS-same-origin, context: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2013Jun/0073.html
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  243. # [13:15] <zcorpan> annevk: if we want to spec the other way of doing it, a response would need an origin
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  246. # [13:17] <annevk> so why do we want a different model there?
  247. # [13:17] <annevk> (interesting testcase btw)
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  250. # [13:24] <gsnedders> jgraham: I can't get that to trigger the rebase, even with having created a duplicate branch with a different name
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  255. # [13:26] <gsnedders> jgraham: Oh, now I'm getting "failed to check conflicts status"
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  257. # [13:34] <jgraham> gsnedders: And this time I got an error message (yay!)
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  259. # [13:34] <jgraham> It looks like critic needs to run as a user that git knows about
  260. # [13:35] <jgraham> I can fix, but maybe not right now
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  265. # [13:38] <zcorpan> annevk: i don't think we want a different model there
  266. # [13:39] <annevk> zcorpan: I asked bz the same question in the thread
  267. # [13:39] <annevk> I think it'd be nice if we could explain things in terms of Response / CORS Response / Tainted Response (new tentative names)
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  271. # [13:43] <annevk> jgraham: how did you tell before?
  272. # [13:43] <annevk> (re: Location)
  273. # [13:45] <jgraham> annevk: Well before there wasn't much new stuff in the spec, right?
  274. # [13:45] <jgraham> It is possible that I'm just confused ofc
  275. # [13:46] <Onderhond> Hey guys.
  276. # [13:46] <Onderhond> Is there any reason why the spec is so strict when it comes to nesting headers/footers in header/footers?
  277. # [13:47] <annevk> jgraham: there's not much new stuff now though
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  294. # [14:24] <jgraham> Anyone from Moz. know who the right person to ask about http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jun/0216.html is?
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  298. # [14:24] <jgraham> annevk: ^
  299. # [14:25] <annevk> jgraham: see pm, dunno if I can share his email address
  300. # [14:26] <annevk> in public
  301. # [14:26] <jgraham> OK
  302. # [14:26] <jgraham> Thanks
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  314. # [14:49] <codepython777> anyone knows how to use html5 to validate a page source?
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  316. # [14:50] <webben> codepython777: http://validator.nu/
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  318. # [14:52] <SteveF> codepython777: or http://validator.w3.org/nu/ if you are concerned about conforming to HTML5 as against the whatwg living standard
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  323. # [15:01] <codepython777> I'm looking to validate html in python or programmatically
  324. # [15:01] <codepython777> validator seems to be asking us not to validate on the webpage
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  326. # [15:05] <codepython777> does anyone know if this can be done using html5-python? validation of html5?
  327. # [15:08] <gsnedders> codepython777: Someone implemented such a thing years ago, but it'll be massively out of date now and probably not work
  328. # [15:08] <codepython777> gsnedders: how do i programmatically take a source page (html 5) and validate it?
  329. # [15:09] <gsnedders> codepython777: I'd use the validator.nu code and call into the JVM either using Jython or through the JNI or possibly through some sort of RPC.
  330. # [15:10] <codepython777> gsnedders: you mean run it locally?
  331. # [15:10] <gsnedders> codepython777: Yeah. I mean, if you aren't requesting that much you could use it remotely.
  332. # [15:11] <codepython777> where is the code for it?
  333. # [15:11] <gsnedders> codepython777: http://about.validator.nu/ has stuff about the RESTful API as well as where the code is etc
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  336. # [15:17] <codepython777> trying the api, thanks
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  339. # [15:19] <zcorpan> Onderhond: what's the use case for such nesting?
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  342. # [15:21] <Onderhond> Imagine a newslist in a fat footer?
  343. # [15:21] <jgraham> web-platform-tests needs some sort of basi formatting policy
  344. # [15:21] <jgraham> *basic
  345. # [15:21] <jgraham> Like no trailing whitespace
  346. # [15:21] <jgraham> And no tabs for indentation
  347. # [15:21] <GPHemsley> TabAtkins: Examples do play a big part in how I absorb syntax, yes. But I don't recall seeing anything else to contradict that, either. But, given your reaction, I must have missed something.
  348. # [15:24] <zcorpan> Onderhond: why wouldn't that just be a section in the footer?
  349. # [15:25] <zcorpan> jgraham: why?
  350. # [15:27] <jgraham> zcorpan: To decrease the cognitive burden of reading other people's tests
  351. # [15:27] <jgraham> Also, because trailing whitespace makes for messy diffs
  352. # [15:27] <zcorpan> ok
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  356. # [15:40] <Onderhond> zcorpan: it is a section in the footer, but the section has it's own header and footer
  357. # [15:40] <Onderhond> the "read all" link is in the footer fe
  358. # [15:40] <Onderhond> *its
  359. # [15:41] <zcorpan> Onderhond: send that use case to the list
  360. # [15:43] <Onderhond> Will do!
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  377. # [16:47] <codepython777> interesting: so validator.nu's own source does not validate!
  378. # [16:49] <codepython777> is there a page in the world that validates on validator.nu? :)
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  381. # [16:53] <miketaylr> doubt it
  382. # [16:54] <jgraham> http://validator.nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fvalidator.nu%2F
  383. # [16:54] <jgraham> "The document validates according to the specified schema(s) and to additional constraints checked by the validator."
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  439. # [18:48] <TabAtkins> GPHemsley: I'm just curious as to how you reached that point *at all*. The very first sentence of that section says "taking a selector list as its argument".
  440. # [18:48] <TabAtkins> (It needs a proper grammar definition, I agree.)
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  480. # [19:46] <jgraham> gsnedders: Retry your rebase?
  481. # [19:46] <jgraham> (might not work still)
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  483. # [19:47] <gsnedders> jgraham: Still fails.
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  558. # [21:14] <GPHemsley> TabAtkins: Without a formal definition, I skipped right to the example. I didn't really read the prose.
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  629. # [23:19] <Hixie> who's a blog admin these days?
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  631. # [23:21] <Hixie> GPHemsley: any idea what the "lb" guy is saying, on the wiki account request alias?
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  645. # [23:55] <GPHemsley> Hixie: Nope. :)
  646. # [23:56] <GPHemsley> Hixie: (If I haven't addressed something after a few days, it's because I don't know the best way forward—or because I know my preference will differ from yours.)
  647. # [23:56] <GPHemsley> But I'm guessing he needs to update a bunch of things about his initials
  648. # [23:57] <GPHemsley> Hixie: (Which is to say, I tend to handle the easy ones quickly.)
  649. # [23:58] <GPHemsley> Basically: If you follow the instructions, I'll give you your username ASAP. If you don't, I let Hixie get around to it at some point.
  650. # [23:59] <Hixie> heh
  651. # Session Close: Tue Jun 18 00:00:00 2013

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