Options:
- # Session Start: Mon Jul 22 00:00:00 2013
- # Session Ident: #whatwg
- # [00:08] * Joins: jryans (~jryans@rrcs-24-73-248-195.sw.biz.rr.com)
- # [00:13] * Quits: zdobersek (~zdobersek@cpe-77.38.31.63.cable.t-1.si) (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
- # [00:14] * Quits: Maurice (copyman@5ED573FA.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
- # [00:16] * Joins: eminor (~eminor@p548CF0ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
- # [00:42] * Quits: AladinBouzerd (~aladinbou@41.104.72.58) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
- # [00:42] * Joins: AladinBouzerd (~aladinbou@41.108.112.190)
- # [00:54] * Quits: jryans (~jryans@rrcs-24-73-248-195.sw.biz.rr.com) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
- # [00:57] * Joins: bentruyman (~bentruyma@c-98-193-95-144.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
- # [00:58] * Joins: cabanier (~cabanier@c-98-237-137-173.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
- # [00:58] * Quits: cabanier (~cabanier@c-98-237-137-173.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [00:58] * Joins: cabanier1 (~cabanier@c-98-237-137-173.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
- # [00:58] * Quits: cabanier1 (~cabanier@c-98-237-137-173.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) (Client Quit)
- # [00:59] * Joins: birtles (~chatzilla@61-121-216-2.bitcat.net)
- # [01:06] * heycam|away is now known as heycam
- # [01:08] <SimonSapin> gsnedders: any plan to make a new release (or beta) of html5lib? I hitting a bug in 1.0b2 that’s fixed in git
- # [01:09] <SimonSapin> I mean PyPI release
- # [01:10] * Quits: enr^ (~enr@77.74.194.229) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [01:19] * Joins: jryans (~jryans@25.sub-70-195-193.myvzw.com)
- # [01:19] * Quits: smaug____ (~chatzilla@a91-154-47-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
- # [01:22] * Joins: galant (~galant@77.28.7.32)
- # [01:24] * Joins: cabanier (~cabanier@c-98-237-137-173.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
- # [01:29] * Quits: cabanier (~cabanier@c-98-237-137-173.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
- # [01:33] <gsnedders> SimonSapin: What bug?
- # [01:34] <gsnedders> The BufferedStream stuff?
- # [01:35] * heycam is now known as heycam|away
- # [01:36] <gsnedders> SimonSapin: Because I guess I can make a release.
- # [01:38] <gsnedders> SimonSapin: Will do so tomorrow.
- # [01:41] * Joins: enr (~enr@90-224-37-101-no105.tbcn.telia.com)
- # [01:43] * Joins: AladinBouzerd_ (~aladinbou@41.104.21.99)
- # [01:45] * Quits: AladinBouzerd (~aladinbou@41.108.112.190) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
- # [01:50] * Quits: enr (~enr@90-224-37-101-no105.tbcn.telia.com) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
- # [01:52] * Quits: bentruyman (~bentruyma@c-98-193-95-144.hsd1.il.comcast.net) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
- # [02:15] * Joins: weinig (~weinig@24.130.60.35)
- # [02:15] * Quits: AladinBouzerd_ (~aladinbou@41.104.21.99) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
- # [02:27] * Quits: galant (~galant@77.28.7.32) (Changing host)
- # [02:27] * Joins: galant (~galant@unaffiliated/dekiss)
- # [02:29] * Quits: Guest55152 (~Krinkle@ec2-50-112-50-28.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) (Changing host)
- # [02:29] * Joins: Guest55152 (~Krinkle@wikimedia/Krinkle)
- # [02:29] * Guest55152 is now known as Krinkle
- # [02:36] * Quits: yorick (~yorick@oftn/member/yorick) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [02:41] * Joins: lmclister (~lmclister@c-98-210-38-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
- # [02:42] * Krinkle is now known as Krinkle|detached
- # [02:56] * Quits: galant (~galant@unaffiliated/dekiss) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
- # [03:03] * Joins: nessy1 (~silviapf@202-159-131-199.dyn.iinet.net.au)
- # [03:08] * heycam|away is now known as heycam
- # [03:08] * Quits: lmclister (~lmclister@c-98-210-38-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (Quit: lmclister)
- # [03:18] * Quits: hatzopoulos (~Hatzopoul@modemcable184.213-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [03:19] * Joins: Goplat (~goplat@reactos/developer/Goplat)
- # [03:23] * Joins: barneybook (~kvirc@220-136-54-80.dynamic.hinet.net)
- # [03:23] * Quits: jryans (~jryans@25.sub-70-195-193.myvzw.com) (Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com)
- # [03:24] * Joins: jryans (~jryans@25.sub-70-195-193.myvzw.com)
- # [03:28] * Joins: mbatle (mbatle@pasanda.collabora.co.uk)
- # [03:37] * Quits: yoav (~yoav@sdo26-1-78-245-148-181.fbx.proxad.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [03:37] * Joins: yoav (~yoav@sdo26-1-78-245-148-181.fbx.proxad.net)
- # [04:04] * Joins: Redface (~Redface@203.226.222.146)
- # [04:14] * Joins: emin0r (~eminor@p548CF884.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
- # [04:14] * Joins: bentruyman (~bentruyma@c-98-193-95-144.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
- # [04:17] * Quits: eminor (~eminor@p548CF0ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
- # [04:28] * Quits: yoav (~yoav@sdo26-1-78-245-148-181.fbx.proxad.net) (Read error: No route to host)
- # [04:28] * Joins: yoav (~yoav@sdo26-1-78-245-148-181.fbx.proxad.net)
- # [04:30] * Quits: nessy1 (~silviapf@202-159-131-199.dyn.iinet.net.au) (Quit: Leaving.)
- # [04:33] * Quits: OnlyMax (~OnlyMax@187-126-220-176.user.veloxzone.com.br) (Quit: Leaving)
- # [04:35] * Joins: nessy1 (~silviapf@202-159-131-199.dyn.iinet.net.au)
- # [04:49] * Quits: jryans (~jryans@25.sub-70-195-193.myvzw.com) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
- # [04:58] * heycam is now known as heycam|away
- # [05:04] * Joins: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [05:06] * Quits: malcolmva (~malcolmva@c-67-180-203-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (Quit: Leaving)
- # [05:09] * Quits: kinetik (~kinetik@121.99.61.191) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
- # [05:09] * Joins: kinetik (~kinetik@121.99.61.191)
- # [05:10] * Quits: Redface (~Redface@203.226.222.146) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
- # [05:11] * Joins: malcolmva (~malcolmva@c-67-180-203-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
- # [05:15] * Quits: nessy1 (~silviapf@202-159-131-199.dyn.iinet.net.au) (Quit: Leaving.)
- # [05:20] * Quits: yoav (~yoav@sdo26-1-78-245-148-181.fbx.proxad.net) (Read error: No route to host)
- # [05:21] * Joins: yoav_ (~yoav@sdo26-1-78-245-148-181.fbx.proxad.net)
- # [05:44] * heycam|away is now known as heycam
- # [05:45] * Joins: lmclister (~lmclister@c-98-210-38-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
- # [06:01] * Joins: lmcliste_ (~lmclister@98.210.38.110)
- # [06:02] * Quits: lmcliste_ (~lmclister@98.210.38.110) (Client Quit)
- # [06:03] * Joins: phlebo (~Rune@phlebotinum.org)
- # [06:03] * Joins: ojan_ (uid5519@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vpsuxqwliatfqmtj)
- # [06:03] * Joins: slightlyoff_ (uid1768@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rruxvmlgdmtcdmub)
- # [06:03] * Joins: barneybook|2 (~kvirc@220-136-54-80.dynamic.hinet.net)
- # [06:07] * Joins: kinetik_ (~kinetik@121.99.61.191)
- # [06:09] * Quits: lmclister (~lmclister@c-98-210-38-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (*.net *.split)
- # [06:09] * Quits: malcolmva (~malcolmva@c-67-180-203-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (*.net *.split)
- # [06:09] * Quits: runeh (~Rune@phlebotinum.org) (*.net *.split)
- # [06:09] * Quits: ojan (uid5519@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-khamqvolmgiwdyqe) (*.net *.split)
- # [06:09] * Quits: karlcow (~karl@nerval.la-grange.net) (*.net *.split)
- # [06:09] * ojan_ is now known as ojan
- # [06:10] * Quits: kinetik (~kinetik@121.99.61.191) (Disconnected by services)
- # [06:10] * kinetik_ is now known as kinetik
- # [06:11] * Joins: malcolmva (~malcolmva@c-67-180-203-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
- # [06:14] * Quits: barneybook (~kvirc@220-136-54-80.dynamic.hinet.net) (*.net *.split)
- # [06:14] * Quits: slightlyoff (uid1768@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kytqfybfxpurzrer) (*.net *.split)
- # [06:14] * Quits: mounir (~mounir@oldworld.fr) (*.net *.split)
- # [06:14] * slightlyoff_ is now known as slightlyoff
- # [06:31] * Quits: yoav_ (~yoav@sdo26-1-78-245-148-181.fbx.proxad.net) (Read error: No route to host)
- # [06:31] * Joins: yoav_ (~yoav@sdo26-1-78-245-148-181.fbx.proxad.net)
- # [06:31] * Joins: annevk (~annevk@205.158.58.41.ptr.us.xo.net)
- # [06:37] * Quits: bentruyman (~bentruyma@c-98-193-95-144.hsd1.il.comcast.net) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
- # [06:41] * Joins: karlcow (~karl@nerval.la-grange.net)
- # [06:43] * Quits: emin0r (~eminor@p548CF884.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: emin0r)
- # [06:52] * Joins: mounir (~mounir@oldworld.fr)
- # [06:59] * Joins: bentruyman (~bentruyma@c-98-193-95-144.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
- # [07:00] * Joins: rego (~rego@231.193.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com)
- # [07:09] * Joins: Redface (~Redface@203.226.222.146)
- # [07:14] * Quits: weinig (~weinig@24.130.60.35) (Quit: weinig)
- # [07:18] * Quits: Goplat (~goplat@reactos/developer/Goplat) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [07:25] * Quits: bentruyman (~bentruyma@c-98-193-95-144.hsd1.il.comcast.net) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
- # [07:29] * Quits: annevk (~annevk@205.158.58.41.ptr.us.xo.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [07:35] * Joins: jryans (~jryans@cpe-70-113-94-107.austin.res.rr.com)
- # [07:44] * Joins: bentruyman (~bentruyma@c-98-193-95-144.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
- # [07:56] * Quits: bentruyman (~bentruyma@c-98-193-95-144.hsd1.il.comcast.net) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
- # [07:57] * Joins: sangwhan_ (~sangwhan_@fnttkyo001028.tkyo.fnt.ngn.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp)
- # [08:22] * Joins: zdobersek (~zdobersek@cpe-77.38.31.63.cable.t-1.si)
- # [08:23] * Quits: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com) (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)
- # [08:24] * Joins: frozenice (~frozenice@unaffiliated/fr0zenice)
- # [08:29] * Quits: yoav_ (~yoav@sdo26-1-78-245-148-181.fbx.proxad.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [08:36] * Joins: Martin1982 (~Martin198@cable-175-208.zeelandnet.nl)
- # [08:37] * Joins: nessy (~silviapf@202-159-131-199.dyn.iinet.net.au)
- # [08:39] * Joins: enr (~enr@static-88.131.87.100.addr.tdcsong.se)
- # [08:42] * Joins: yoav_ (~yoav@sdo26-1-78-245-148-181.fbx.proxad.net)
- # [08:43] * Quits: yoav_ (~yoav@sdo26-1-78-245-148-181.fbx.proxad.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [08:55] * Joins: Emtec (~emtec@5.149.138.2)
- # [08:59] * Joins: yoav (~yoav@sdo26-1-78-245-148-181.fbx.proxad.net)
- # [09:02] * Kolombiken1 is now known as Kolombiken
- # [09:03] * Joins: dogfoodhh (~dogfood@217.110.124.66)
- # [09:04] * Joins: galant (~galant@77.28.20.106)
- # [09:04] * Quits: galant (~galant@77.28.20.106) (Changing host)
- # [09:04] * Joins: galant (~galant@unaffiliated/dekiss)
- # [09:05] * Joins: svl (~me@ip565744a7.direct-adsl.nl)
- # [09:13] * Joins: mitemitreski (~mitemitre@212.120.17.179)
- # [09:13] * Quits: enr (~enr@static-88.131.87.100.addr.tdcsong.se) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [09:13] * Joins: enr (~enr@static-88.131.87.100.addr.tdcsong.se)
- # [09:13] * Quits: nessy (~silviapf@202-159-131-199.dyn.iinet.net.au) (Quit: Leaving.)
- # [09:14] <SimonSapin> gsnedders: yeah, that: https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-python/issues/67
- # [09:17] * Joins: Ms2ger (~Ms2ger@91.182.0.182)
- # [09:18] * Quits: enr (~enr@static-88.131.87.100.addr.tdcsong.se) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
- # [09:18] * Joins: enr (~enr@static-88.131.87.100.addr.tdcsong.se)
- # [09:21] * Joins: tantek (~tantek@wifi.ttu.ee)
- # [09:23] * Joins: shepazutoo (~shepazuto@173-12-167-177-oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
- # [09:25] * Quits: shepazutoo (~shepazuto@173-12-167-177-oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) (Client Quit)
- # [09:31] * Quits: Kolombiken (~Adium@94.137.124.2) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [09:35] * Joins: Maurice (copyman@5ED573FA.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
- # [09:36] * Quits: Redface (~Redface@203.226.222.146) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [09:38] * Joins: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [09:44] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Is that more significant than, say, trying to run apache on all your Windows boxes? Or whatever you do for Mobile Firefox?
- # [09:46] <Ms2ger> Well, it's only our IT people would hate me for that :)
- # [09:47] <jgraham> I'm not sure :)
- # [09:47] <Ms2ger> gsnedders, apparently distribute forked setuptools after a breakup with the setuptools developer, but now they're back together
- # [09:54] * Joins: Kolombiken (~Adium@gateway.creuna.se)
- # [09:54] * Quits: Lachy (~Lachy@cm-84.215.104.248.getinternet.no) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
- # [09:57] * Quits: Emtec (~emtec@5.149.138.2) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [09:57] * Quits: tantek (~tantek@wifi.ttu.ee) (Quit: tantek)
- # [10:01] * Quits: Kolombiken (~Adium@gateway.creuna.se) (Quit: Leaving.)
- # [10:11] * Joins: cheron (~cheron@unaffiliated/cheron)
- # [10:17] * Joins: Kolombiken (~Adium@94.137.124.2)
- # [10:20] * Quits: dbaron (~dbaron@173-228-85-238.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
- # [10:22] * Joins: david_carlisle (~chatzilla@86.188.197.189)
- # [10:25] * Joins: Lachy (~Lachy@213.166.174.2)
- # [10:31] * Joins: tomasf (~tomasf@77.72.97.10.c.fiberdirekt.net)
- # [10:35] * Joins: dbaron (~dbaron@173-228-85-238.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net)
- # [10:44] * Quits: kinetik (~kinetik@121.99.61.191) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [10:46] * Joins: tantek (~tantek@wifi.ttu.ee)
- # [10:48] * Quits: birtles (~chatzilla@61-121-216-2.bitcat.net) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204])
- # [10:50] * Quits: dbaron (~dbaron@173-228-85-238.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
- # [10:52] * Joins: kinetik (~kinetik@121.99.61.142)
- # [10:52] * heycam is now known as heycam|away
- # [10:55] * Joins: benbarnett (~Adium@195.81.245.98)
- # [11:01] * Joins: SteveF (~chatzilla@cpc3-nmal20-2-0-cust916.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [11:13] * Joins: barneybook (~kvirc@111-241-122-112.dynamic.hinet.net)
- # [11:16] * Quits: barneybook|2 (~kvirc@220-136-54-80.dynamic.hinet.net) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
- # [11:17] * Quits: tantek (~tantek@wifi.ttu.ee) (Quit: tantek)
- # [11:22] * Joins: TuRnaD0 (~Thunderbi@x1-6-e0-46-9a-1e-fe-ca.k368.webspeed.dk)
- # [11:24] * Joins: tantek (~tantek@wifi.ttu.ee)
- # [11:25] * Joins: marcosc (~marcosc@bl11-136-90.dsl.telepac.pt)
- # [11:31] * Joins: AladinBouzerd (~aladinbou@41.104.84.241)
- # [11:35] * Joins: smaug____ (~chatzilla@a91-154-47-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi)
- # [11:51] * Quits: jryans (~jryans@cpe-70-113-94-107.austin.res.rr.com) (Quit: Be back later)
- # [12:12] * Quits: smaug____ (~chatzilla@a91-154-47-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
- # [12:14] <SimonSapin> gsnedders: found another issue: https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-python/issues/96
- # [12:14] <SimonSapin> and there is no hurry for a release
- # [12:22] * Quits: tantek (~tantek@wifi.ttu.ee) (Quit: tantek)
- # [12:40] * Quits: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com) (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)
- # [12:43] * Quits: AladinBouzerd (~aladinbou@41.104.84.241) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [12:44] * Joins: AladinBouzerd (~aladinbou@41.104.84.241)
- # [12:47] <jgraham> SimonSapin: I'm pretty sure that we only calculate the source position on demand
- # [12:47] * Quits: karlcow (~karl@nerval.la-grange.net) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
- # [12:47] <jgraham> Because it's slow
- # [12:53] * Joins: AladinBouzerd_ (~aladinbou@41.108.17.241)
- # [12:53] * Joins: [[zzzz]] (~q@node-18sw.pool-101-109.dynamic.totbb.net)
- # [12:54] <SimonSapin> I see
- # [12:54] <SimonSapin> but when I get elements from a parsed tree it’s too late
- # [12:55] <jgraham> Yes
- # [12:55] * Quits: AladinBouzerd (~aladinbou@41.104.84.241) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
- # [12:56] * Joins: shwetank (~shwetank@122.161.48.239)
- # [12:56] <jgraham> https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-python/blob/master/html5lib/inputstream.py#L217
- # [12:56] * Quits: [[zzz]] (~q@node-z4y.pool-180-180.dynamic.totbb.net) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
- # [12:56] * Joins: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [13:04] * Quits: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com) (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)
- # [13:05] * Joins: OnlyMax (~OnlyMax@187-126-220-176.user.veloxzone.com.br)
- # [13:05] * Joins: espadrine (~ttyl@AMontsouris-158-1-32-66.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr)
- # [13:30] * Joins: AladinBouzerd__ (~aladinbou@41.108.17.241)
- # [13:34] * Quits: AladinBouzerd_ (~aladinbou@41.108.17.241) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
- # [13:45] * Joins: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [13:47] * Joins: smaug____ (~chatzilla@a91-154-47-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi)
- # [13:53] * Joins: karlcow (~karl@nerval.la-grange.net)
- # [13:59] * Quits: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com) (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)
- # [14:01] * Joins: scor (~scor@drupal.org/user/52142/view)
- # [14:03] * Quits: marcosc (~marcosc@bl11-136-90.dsl.telepac.pt) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [14:04] * Quits: scor (~scor@drupal.org/user/52142/view) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [14:09] <galant> sorry for askign this here but why I can't do this ? if (number.style.color == "rgb(170,0,0)")
- # [14:17] * Joins: frozenice` (~frozenice@unaffiliated/fr0zenice)
- # [14:17] * Quits: frozenice (~frozenice@unaffiliated/fr0zenice) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [14:23] * Joins: Martin1982_ (~Martin198@cable-175-208.zeelandnet.nl)
- # [14:24] * Joins: ehsan_ (~ehsan@24-212-206-174.cable.teksavvy.com)
- # [14:25] * Quits: Martin1982 (~Martin198@cable-175-208.zeelandnet.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [14:25] * Martin1982_ is now known as Martin1982
- # [14:26] * Quits: ehsan_ (~ehsan@24-212-206-174.cable.teksavvy.com) (Read error: No route to host)
- # [14:26] * Joins: ehsan_ (~ehsan@24-212-206-174.cable.teksavvy.com)
- # [14:28] * Joins: newtron (~newtron@199.71.174.103)
- # [14:29] * Quits: reyre (~reyre_@CPE7cb21b1e2cf4-CM7cb21b1e2cf1.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [14:39] * Joins: Emtec (~emtec@5.149.138.2)
- # [14:42] <jgraham> Ms2ger: https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/5 :)
- # [14:42] * Quits: SteveF (~chatzilla@cpc3-nmal20-2-0-cust916.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [14:47] <Ms2ger> That's Aryeh, isn't it?
- # [14:47] * Ms2ger sighs
- # [14:49] <jgraham> Yeah, but you only need to review the few changes I made. And maybe close some of zcorpan's issues :)
- # [14:57] * Joins: JohnAlbin (~JohnAlbin@123-193-194-128.dynamic.kbronet.com.tw)
- # [14:58] * Joins: yorick (~yorick@oftn/member/yorick)
- # [15:03] * Joins: baku (~baku@2-236-39-253.ip231.fastwebnet.it)
- # [15:04] * Joins: scor (~scor@drupal.org/user/52142/view)
- # [15:06] * Joins: sawrubh (uid6719@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cedwsbhzzmrubxzh)
- # [15:07] <Ms2ger> Not now :)
- # [15:10] * Joins: decotii (~decotii@hq.croscon.com)
- # [15:13] * Joins: SteveF (~chatzilla@cpc3-nmal20-2-0-cust916.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [15:21] * Quits: david_carlisle (~chatzilla@86.188.197.189) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
- # [15:28] * Joins: marcosc_ (~marcosc@bl11-136-90.dsl.telepac.pt)
- # [15:29] * Joins: karbassi (~karbassi@li62-206.members.linode.com)
- # [15:32] * Joins: Spedax (~spedax@5.149.138.2)
- # [15:34] * Quits: tomasf (~tomasf@77.72.97.10.c.fiberdirekt.net) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
- # [15:34] * Quits: danielfi_ (~danielfil@200.232.113.107) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
- # [15:40] * Krinkle|detached is now known as Krinkle
- # [15:41] <SimonSapin> If you’re using WeasyPrint: it’s about to switch to html5lib. Testing wanted: https://github.com/Kozea/WeasyPrint/pull/112
- # [15:43] * Joins: jreading (~Adium@204.56.125.50)
- # [15:54] * Quits: scor (~scor@drupal.org/user/52142/view) (Quit: scor)
- # [16:02] * Joins: TallTed (~Thud@63.119.36.36)
- # [16:05] * Joins: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [16:06] * Joins: reyre (~reyre_@142.204.133.18)
- # [16:06] * Joins: krit1 (~krit@178-24-147-149-dynip.superkabel.de)
- # [16:07] * Quits: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com) (Client Quit)
- # [16:10] * Zauberfisch^idle is now known as Zauberfisch
- # [16:11] * Joins: Greggg (~Greg@109.255.247.201)
- # [16:16] * Quits: Spedax (~spedax@5.149.138.2) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [16:19] * Joins: miketaylr (~miketaylr@65-36-73-92.dyn.grandenetworks.net)
- # [16:21] <ondras_> now there is this events-related stuff
- # [16:22] <ondras_> that I cannot see anywhere in the spec
- # [16:22] <ondras_> but browsers implement that in the same manner:
- # [16:22] <ondras_> let's add two listeners to one element
- # [16:22] * Joins: scor (scor@nat/acquia/x-zctunqmhkcknxroo)
- # [16:22] * Quits: scor (scor@nat/acquia/x-zctunqmhkcknxroo) (Changing host)
- # [16:22] * Joins: scor (scor@drupal.org/user/52142/view)
- # [16:22] <ondras_> capture listener that stop propagation
- # [16:22] <ondras_> bubble listener that does not stop
- # [16:22] <ondras_> when I dispatch to that element, both those listeners are called
- # [16:22] <ondras_> (when I dispatch to that element's child, only the first listener is obviously called)
- # [16:23] <ondras_> can someone please explain?
- # [16:23] * Joins: ryuone (~ryuone@133.242.16.101)
- # [16:25] * Quits: ryuone_ (~ryuone@133.242.16.101) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [16:25] * Quits: shwetank (~shwetank@122.161.48.239) (Quit: Leaving...)
- # [16:25] <jgraham> ondras_: It's in the DOM spec
- # [16:26] * jgraham afk
- # [16:26] * Quits: krit1 (~krit@178-24-147-149-dynip.superkabel.de) (Quit: Leaving.)
- # [16:26] * Quits: mven (~mven@ip68-224-15-53.lv.lv.cox.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [16:26] <ondras_> jgraham: I would appreciate a more concrete pointer - reading http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/ once more but still missing the relevant part :-(
- # [16:27] * Joins: mven (~mven@ip68-224-15-53.lv.lv.cox.net)
- # [16:27] * Quits: AladinBouzerd__ (~aladinbou@41.108.17.241) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
- # [16:27] * Quits: yorick (~yorick@oftn/member/yorick) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [16:28] * Quits: scor (scor@drupal.org/user/52142/view) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
- # [16:30] * Quits: marcosc_ (~marcosc@bl11-136-90.dsl.telepac.pt) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [16:31] * Parts: Greggg (~Greg@109.255.247.201) ("Leaving")
- # [16:34] * Quits: kinetik (~kinetik@121.99.61.142) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
- # [16:34] * Joins: kinetik (~kinetik@121.99.61.142)
- # [16:35] * Joins: danielfilho|w (~danielfil@177.43.224.126)
- # [16:39] * Joins: marcosc (~marcosc@bl11-136-90.dsl.telepac.pt)
- # [16:41] * Quits: galant (~galant@unaffiliated/dekiss) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
- # [16:42] * Quits: barneybook (~kvirc@111-241-122-112.dynamic.hinet.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [16:42] * Joins: scor (scor@drupal.org/user/52142/view)
- # [16:43] * Quits: scor (scor@drupal.org/user/52142/view) (Client Quit)
- # [16:43] * Joins: scor (scor@nat/acquia/x-rpobykerunczhocb)
- # [16:43] * Quits: scor (scor@nat/acquia/x-rpobykerunczhocb) (Changing host)
- # [16:43] * Joins: scor (scor@drupal.org/user/52142/view)
- # [16:43] <Domenic_> ondras_: the DOM spec is http://dom.spec.whatwg.org/
- # [16:43] <Domenic_> note the correlation between that URL and the name of the IRC room you're in ;)
- # [16:44] * Quits: Emtec (~emtec@5.149.138.2) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [16:47] * Joins: david_carlisle (~chatzilla@dcarlisle.demon.co.uk)
- # [16:51] * Quits: danielfilho|w (~danielfil@177.43.224.126) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
- # [16:51] * Joins: Emtec (~emtec@5.149.138.2)
- # [16:52] * Joins: tantek (~tantek@wifi.ttu.ee)
- # [16:54] * Joins: galant (~galant@77.28.10.48)
- # [16:57] * Joins: danielfilho|w (~danielfil@177.43.224.126)
- # [16:59] * Joins: krit (~krit@178-24-147-149-dynip.superkabel.de)
- # [17:00] * Joins: jernoble_ (~jernoble@67-5-218-49.ptld.qwest.net)
- # [17:01] * Quits: tantek (~tantek@wifi.ttu.ee) (Quit: tantek)
- # [17:04] <ondras_> Domenic_: oops sorry, did not know that the animosity is that strong :>
- # [17:04] <gsnedders> SimonSapin: Is there anything apart from the BufferedStream stuff you need in 1.0b3?
- # [17:05] * Parts: jreading (~Adium@204.56.125.50)
- # [17:06] * Joins: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [17:06] * Quits: OnlyMax (~OnlyMax@187-126-220-176.user.veloxzone.com.br) (Quit: Leaving)
- # [17:07] * Quits: mven (~mven@ip68-224-15-53.lv.lv.cox.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [17:08] * Joins: Goplat (~goplat@reactos/developer/Goplat)
- # [17:10] * Quits: Martin1982 (~Martin198@cable-175-208.zeelandnet.nl) (Quit: Gone snoring)
- # [17:10] * ondras_ is now known as ondras
- # [17:10] <SimonSapin> gsnedders: the current master works for me
- # [17:15] * Joins: krit1 (~krit@sjfw1-a.adobe.com)
- # [17:17] * Quits: krit (~krit@178-24-147-149-dynip.superkabel.de) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
- # [17:18] * Joins: AladinBouzerd (~aladinbou@41.104.160.23)
- # [17:20] * Joins: jarek (~jarek@unaffiliated/jarek)
- # [17:22] * Quits: rego (~rego@231.193.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [17:23] <gsnedders> jgraham: https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-python/pull/98
- # [17:23] * Joins: Spedax (~spedax@5.149.138.2)
- # [17:25] * Quits: Spedax (~spedax@5.149.138.2) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [17:27] * Quits: danielfilho|w (~danielfil@177.43.224.126) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
- # [17:28] * Krinkle is now known as Krinkle|detached
- # [17:29] <SimonSapin> gsnedders: non-seekable RawIOBase-like objects include results of urllib.urlopen(), right?
- # [17:29] <gsnedders> Yes.
- # [17:30] * Joins: rubatdub (~khalil@213.188.180.185)
- # [17:33] * Quits: enr (~enr@static-88.131.87.100.addr.tdcsong.se) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [17:33] * Joins: enr (~enr@static-88.131.87.100.addr.tdcsong.se)
- # [17:36] * Joins: Spedax (~spedax@5.149.138.2)
- # [17:38] * Quits: enr (~enr@static-88.131.87.100.addr.tdcsong.se) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
- # [17:39] * Quits: Adawerk_ (~ada@169.241.49.57) (Quit: Leaving)
- # [17:40] * Quits: karlcow (~karl@nerval.la-grange.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [17:44] * Joins: karlcow (~karl@nerval.la-grange.net)
- # [17:44] * Quits: dogfoodhh (~dogfood@217.110.124.66) (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
- # [17:46] * Quits: reyre (~reyre_@142.204.133.18)
- # [17:46] * Quits: Lachy (~Lachy@213.166.174.2) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
- # [17:46] <Ms2ger> ondras, it's just that the originals on whatwg.org tend to be more up-to-date than the forks on w3.org
- # [17:46] * Joins: reyre (~reyre@142.204.133.18)
- # [17:46] * Joins: lmclister (~lmclister@sjfw1-a.adobe.com)
- # [17:47] * Joins: annevk (~annevk@205.158.58.41.ptr.us.xo.net)
- # [17:48] * Quits: Goplat (~goplat@reactos/developer/Goplat) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [17:49] * krit1 is now known as krit
- # [17:53] * Quits: Spedax (~spedax@5.149.138.2) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [17:53] * Quits: Emtec (~emtec@5.149.138.2) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [17:54] * Quits: jarek (~jarek@unaffiliated/jarek) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [17:54] * Joins: alecf (alecf@nat/google/x-ixxljdjdvjjgqwsh)
- # [17:55] * Joins: mven (~mven@206.194.49.219)
- # [17:58] * Quits: jernoble_ (~jernoble@67-5-218-49.ptld.qwest.net) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
- # [18:00] * Joins: jryans (~jryans@office.massrel.com)
- # [18:06] * Quits: mven (~mven@206.194.49.219) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [18:06] * Joins: sicking (~sicking@v-1045.fw1.sfo1.mozilla.net)
- # [18:08] * Joins: ^esc (~esc-ape@77.116.247.34.wireless.dyn.drei.com)
- # [18:08] * Quits: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
- # [18:09] <TabAtkins> smaug____: Re: CSSWG being on crack, you probably misunderstand. Our profiles are just a way for us to add cool things for qSA/etc without burdening CSS implementations with slow selectors.
- # [18:10] <TabAtkins> smaug____: It was either that, or continue to tell people "Nope, screw your qSA needs, we're tying this spec to the most perf-sensitive possible use of Selectors."
- # [18:11] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: I just fixed the railroad diagram
- # [18:11] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: D'oh.
- # [18:13] <smaug____> TabAtkins: so, on crack ;) Making selector handling inconsistent
- # [18:13] * Joins: weinig (~weinig@17.114.106.176)
- # [18:13] * Joins: shwetank (~shwetank@122.161.48.239)
- # [18:13] <TabAtkins> smaug____: Okay, shrug. I think it's an easy argument that it's good for authors to offer them more power where we can, even though that does mean some selectors are only usable in certain contexts.
- # [18:14] <jgraham> gsnedders: How did we end up at 1.0b4?
- # [18:14] <smaug____> I wouldn't give up with consistency too easily
- # [18:15] <TabAtkins> All I know is, I can't reasonably argue for why jQuery can do something in their selector engine but the browser can't.
- # [18:15] <jgraham> TabAtkins: Take the HTTPWG approach and normatively require a user-presented warning when someone uses a slow selector in CSS
- # [18:16] <TabAtkins> If you want consistency, sprinkle your magic performance pixie dust over everything so we can just put everything in the fast profile. ^_^
- # [18:16] <TabAtkins> jgraham: Editing that in now.
- # [18:20] * Joins: ap (~ap@2620:149:4:1b01:e44f:2100:4887:d3c5)
- # [18:22] <Domenic_> moar magic pixie dust plz, i really want those selectors in my css :(
- # [18:23] <smaug____> (ofc jQuery can do whatever things they want in their engine. jQuery doing something isn't per se any argument.)
- # [18:24] * hober2 is now known as hober
- # [18:24] * Quits: benbarnett (~Adium@195.81.245.98) (Quit: Leaving.)
- # [18:24] <TabAtkins> smaug____: Of course not. But external libraries are a great source of inspiration for real features.
- # [18:25] <smaug____> sure
- # [18:25] <TabAtkins> smaug____: But my point is that jQuery is allowed to do certain things because they're *only* a batch processor (more or less). We have batch-processed Selectors too, but previously we've ignored their performance characteristics in favor of only honoring the perf of selectors in stylesheets.
- # [18:26] * jonlee|afk is now known as jonlee
- # [18:27] * Joins: Adawerk (~ada@169.241.49.57)
- # [18:40] * Krinkle|detached is now known as Krinkle
- # [18:45] * Joins: OnlyMax (~OnlyMax@187-126-220-176.user.veloxzone.com.br)
- # [18:46] * Joins: yodasw16 (~yodasw16@ql1fwhide.rockfin.com)
- # [18:47] * Quits: sicking (~sicking@v-1045.fw1.sfo1.mozilla.net) (Quit: sicking)
- # [18:52] * Joins: sicking (~sicking@v-1045.fw1.sfo1.mozilla.net)
- # [18:53] * Joins: cabanier (~cabanier@192.150.22.55)
- # [18:53] * Joins: tantek (~tantek@194.106.99.109)
- # [18:54] * jonlee is now known as jonlee|afk
- # [18:54] * Krinkle is now known as Krinkle|detached
- # [18:55] * Quits: lmclister (~lmclister@sjfw1-a.adobe.com) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
- # [18:56] * Quits: annevk (~annevk@205.158.58.41.ptr.us.xo.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [18:58] * Joins: mven (~mven@169.241.49.234)
- # [18:58] * Joins: lmclister (~lmclister@sjfw1-a.adobe.com)
- # [18:59] * Joins: Benvie (~bbenvie@v-1045.fw1.sfo1.mozilla.net)
- # [19:04] * Joins: dbaron (~dbaron@173-228-85-238.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net)
- # [19:04] * Quits: tantek (~tantek@194.106.99.109) (Quit: tantek)
- # [19:11] * miketaylr is now known as miketaylrzzzzzzz
- # [19:11] * Joins: shepazutoo (~shepazuto@67.23.204.2)
- # [19:13] * Quits: david_carlisle (~chatzilla@dcarlisle.demon.co.uk) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
- # [19:13] * Quits: AladinBouzerd (~aladinbou@41.104.160.23) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
- # [19:14] * Quits: Maurice (copyman@5ED573FA.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
- # [19:15] * Joins: jorgepedret (~jorgepedr@S01067444013f60b9.vc.shawcable.net)
- # [19:21] * Krinkle|detached is now known as Krinkle
- # [19:28] * Joins: benbarnett (~Adium@149.241.212.83)
- # [19:28] * Quits: benbarnett (~Adium@149.241.212.83) (Client Quit)
- # [19:28] * Joins: jacobolus (~jacobolus@173-164-253-217-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
- # [19:30] * Quits: SteveF (~chatzilla@cpc3-nmal20-2-0-cust916.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [19:32] * Quits: galant (~galant@77.28.10.48) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
- # [19:41] * Joins: Stemby (~quassel@dynamic-adsl-78-14-236-96.clienti.tiscali.it)
- # [19:46] * Quits: mven (~mven@169.241.49.234) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [19:46] * Joins: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [19:47] * Joins: enr (~enr@213.179.213.235)
- # [19:50] * Quits: shepazutoo (~shepazuto@67.23.204.2) (Quit: shepazutoo)
- # [19:50] <Stemby> hi
- # [19:50] <Stemby> this morning I asked for an account on your wiki by e-mail
- # [19:51] <Stemby> I haven't received a reply yet...
- # [19:51] * Krinkle is now known as Krinkle|detached
- # [19:51] <Stemby> can you help me?
- # [19:54] * Joins: Spedax (~spedax@5.149.138.2)
- # [19:58] <gsnedders> jgraham: How? By the previous commit being the intended 1.0b3 release.
- # [19:58] <jgraham> gsnedders: That's two reviews, surely?
- # [19:58] <gsnedders> jgraham: Well, if you want to count bumping the release number post-release as separate to the release…
- # [19:59] * Quits: Spedax (~spedax@5.149.138.2) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
- # [20:01] * Joins: jwalden (~waldo@2620:101:8003:200:3ea9:f4ff:fe34:6fd4)
- # [20:03] * Quits: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com) (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)
- # [20:07] * Joins: shepazutoo (~shepazuto@67.23.204.2)
- # [20:08] * miketaylrzzzzzzz is now known as miketaylr
- # [20:12] * Joins: SteveF (~chatzilla@cpc3-nmal20-2-0-cust916.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [20:13] * Quits: krit (~krit@sjfw1-a.adobe.com) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [20:15] * Joins: rniwa (~rniwa@17.212.154.114)
- # [20:18] * Quits: mitemitreski (~mitemitre@212.120.17.179) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [20:18] <Stemby> dglazkov, GPHemsley, Hixie, hober, jgraham, Ms2ger, ShaneHudson, TabAtkins, I found you here: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/IRC
- # [20:18] <Stemby> can you help me?
- # [20:19] <TabAtkins> I *think* gphemsley is the one that maintains the wiki accounts.
- # [20:19] <TabAtkins> GPHemsley: ^^^
- # [20:19] <Hixie> Stemby: what's up?
- # [20:19] <Hixie> TabAtkins: do you know if any browsers are on board with https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/FXTF/rawfile/tip/compositing/index.html#canvascompositingandblending ?
- # [20:19] <Stemby> ok, TabAtkins, tahank you!
- # [20:19] <Stemby> Hixie: I need an account on your wiki
- # [20:20] <Hixie> Stemby: e-mail address?
- # [20:20] <Stemby> Hixie: pm
- # [20:21] <Hixie> done. check e-mail for credentials.
- # [20:21] <Stemby> thank you very much!
- # [20:22] <Hixie> np
- # [20:26] * Joins: krit (~krit@178-24-147-149-dynip.superkabel.de)
- # [20:31] * Joins: josemanuel (~josemanue@39.217.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es)
- # [20:31] * Parts: Stemby (~quassel@dynamic-adsl-78-14-236-96.clienti.tiscali.it) ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.")
- # [20:32] * Joins: annevk (~annevk@207.239.114.206)
- # [20:32] * Quits: josemanuel (~josemanue@39.217.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) (Client Quit)
- # [20:36] * Quits: weinig (~weinig@17.114.106.176) (Quit: weinig)
- # [20:37] * Quits: baku (~baku@2-236-39-253.ip231.fastwebnet.it) (Quit: Leaving)
- # [20:39] * Joins: danielfilho|w (~danielfil@177.43.224.126)
- # [20:41] * Quits: jwalden (~waldo@2620:101:8003:200:3ea9:f4ff:fe34:6fd4) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-7.1450hg.fc19 [XULRunner 22.0/20130701153714])
- # [20:41] * Joins: weinig (~weinig@17.114.106.176)
- # [20:43] * Joins: OnlyMax_ (~OnlyMax@187-126-56-149.user.veloxzone.com.br)
- # [20:44] * Quits: OnlyMax (~OnlyMax@187-126-220-176.user.veloxzone.com.br) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
- # [20:46] * Quits: weinig (~weinig@17.114.106.176) (Quit: weinig)
- # [20:48] <Hixie> i wonder what "The syntax of the property of <composite-mode> is given with" means
- # [20:53] * Quits: dbaron (~dbaron@173-228-85-238.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [20:59] * Joins: danielfi_ (~danielfil@177.43.224.126)
- # [21:00] * Quits: danielfilho|w (~danielfil@177.43.224.126) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [21:06] * Joins: tomasf (~tomasf@host-95-199-21-214.mobileonline.telia.com)
- # [21:07] <ondras> Hixie: you around?
- # [21:07] <Hixie> yo
- # [21:08] <ondras> Hixie: one more question re. events: is there an order defined for listeners on one element, or is this undefined?
- # [21:08] <Hixie> there is an order defined.
- # [21:09] <Hixie> more or less the order they were added in, though it's a bit more complicated than that when it comes to things like .onfoo handlers.
- # [21:09] * Quits: tomasf (~tomasf@host-95-199-21-214.mobileonline.telia.com) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [21:09] <ondras> Hixie: okay; I guess the fixed ordering is something added relatively recently?
- # [21:10] <ondras> (IE firing them in the inverted order, even in recent versions iirc)
- # [21:10] <Ms2ger> DOM2 or so
- # [21:10] <Hixie> well, there's always been _an_ order
- # [21:10] * Joins: tomasf (~tomasf@host-95-195-137-137.mobileonline.telia.com)
- # [21:10] <Hixie> sometimes the order has varied from browser to browser
- # [21:10] <Hixie> over the past few years, we've tried to tighten everything up in the specs
- # [21:10] <ondras> well, standardized "can be relied upon" order, of course
- # [21:10] <Hixie> well, whether it can be relied upon depends on how the browsers are doing implementing the specs
- # [21:11] <ondras> I am obviously completely idiotic when it comes to finding stuff in the spec
- # [21:11] <Hixie> and how the specs are doing matching what browsers want to implement
- # [21:11] <ondras> can you please point me to a good paragraph re. this order in http://dom.spec.whatwg.org/ ?
- # [21:12] <Hixie> dunno, let's see
- # [21:12] <Ms2ger> It's implicit
- # [21:12] <ondras> also, this statement
- # [21:12] <ondras> "When set to true, the capture argument ensures callback is only invoked when the event's eventPhase attribute value is CAPTURING_PHASE. "
- # [21:12] * Quits: annevk (~annevk@207.239.114.206) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [21:12] <Ms2ger> addEventListener says...
- # [21:12] <Ms2ger> *Append* an event listener to the associated list of event listeners
- # [21:12] <ondras> okay
- # [21:13] <ondras> as for the capture
- # [21:13] <ondras> this is not exactly true, is it?
- # [21:13] <ondras> the callback will be also executed in the "on target" phase
- # [21:13] <Hixie> http://dom.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-event-listener-invoke is where i would hope to see an explicit statement of the order in which the listeners are invoked, and i don't see it
- # [21:13] * Quits: shwetank (~shwetank@122.161.48.239) (Quit: Leaving...)
- # [21:13] <ondras> if the event is dispatched at the element
- # [21:13] <Hixie> it just says "for each event listener"
- # [21:13] <Hixie> not in what order to do it
- # [21:13] * GPHemsley notes account requests are not instantaneous.
- # [21:14] <Hixie> also "Let listeners be a static list of the event listeners associated with the object" doesn't seem to make any effort to maintain an order
- # [21:14] <ondras> Hixie: well this is some interesting news for me anyway, thanks
- # [21:14] <ondras> (always considered them unordered for the time being)
- # [21:14] <Ms2ger> Yeah, that probably could use a bug
- # [21:14] <Hixie> "Each EventTarget has an associated list of event listeners" doesn't seem to actually identify the list so it's not clear how to refer to it, which is clear from that text i just quoted :-)
- # [21:15] <Ms2ger> Hixie, easy, "the associated list of event listeners"
- # [21:15] * Quits: marcosc (~marcosc@bl11-136-90.dsl.telepac.pt) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [21:15] <Hixie> yeah but you don't refer to them that way in the text i quoted, so...
- # [21:16] <ondras> Hixie: and that "capture" definition re. CAPTURING_PHASE?
- # [21:16] * Quits: espadrine (~ttyl@AMontsouris-158-1-32-66.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
- # [21:16] <Hixie> Ms2ger: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22756
- # [21:16] <GPHemsley> Hixie: Psst. You forgot to mention that you created an account for Stemby ;)
- # [21:17] <Hixie> ondras: ?
- # [21:17] <Ms2ger> Hixie, thanks
- # [21:17] <Hixie> GPHemsley: he asked here, i answered here :-)
- # [21:17] <GPHemsley> GPHemsley: oh, nevermind. *I* missed reading it. As you were.
- # [21:17] <ondras> Hixie: so, the spec states that listeners added with capture=true will be executed only during CAPTURING_PHASE
- # [21:18] <ondras> Hixie: which does not seem to be the case when they are attached to the element to which the event is dispatched
- # [21:18] <ondras> moreover
- # [21:18] <Hixie> ondras: sounds right...
- # [21:18] * Quits: shepazutoo (~shepazuto@67.23.204.2) (Quit: shepazutoo)
- # [21:18] <ondras> if I addEventListener(node, , false)
- # [21:18] <ondras> and then addEventListener(node, , true)
- # [21:18] <ondras> these will be called in this order, when dispatching to node
- # [21:18] <ondras> (!)
- # [21:18] <ondras> am I correct?
- # [21:18] <Hixie> well capture is always called first
- # [21:19] <Hixie> first you do all the capture handlers, from top of tree to target, then the bubbling/target handlers, from target to top of tree
- # [21:19] * Quits: SteveF (~chatzilla@cpc3-nmal20-2-0-cust916.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [21:19] <ondras> yes, I know that
- # [21:19] <ondras> but this particular scenario
- # [21:19] <ondras> where I have both of them on the target
- # [21:20] <Hixie> see http://dom.spec.whatwg.org/#dispatching-events
- # [21:20] <ondras> yes, reading that right now
- # [21:20] <ondras> Then run these substeps for each event listener in listeners:
- # [21:20] <ondras> AT_TARGET
- # [21:20] <ondras> I do not see them being run "capture first"
- # [21:20] * Joins: annevk (~annevk@207.239.114.206)
- # [21:20] <Hixie> it's in teh "Dispatch" algorithm, step 6.
- # [21:21] <Hixie> capture handlers on the target aren't invoked, it seems
- # [21:21] <ondras> yes
- # [21:21] <ondras> because step6 covers ancestors only
- # [21:21] * Quits: tomasf (~tomasf@host-95-195-137-137.mobileonline.telia.com) (Quit: tomasf)
- # [21:22] <Hixie> oh, nevermind
- # [21:22] <Hixie> so yeah
- # [21:22] <Hixie> the order on the target ignores the capture argument
- # [21:22] <Hixie> it seems
- # [21:22] <ondras> right, interesting
- # [21:22] <Hixie> because all the listeners are done in order, and the phase is AT_TARGET
- # [21:22] <ondras> thanks for acknowledging that
- # [21:22] <Hixie> so all the listeners fire, not just capture or bubbling
- # [21:23] <ondras> so only the wording at addEventListener shall be probably improved w.r.t. CAPTURING_PHASE
- # [21:23] <Hixie> Ms2ger: (not sure what /invoke/ 4.6 means)
- # [21:23] <Ms2ger> 401 annevk
- # [21:23] <Hixie> 401? yikes
- # [21:24] * Ms2ger tries to recall what that was
- # [21:24] <Ms2ger> Payment required? Or Authorization?
- # [21:25] <annevk> Payment is 402
- # [21:25] <Hixie> 401 is "unauthorised"
- # [21:25] <Hixie> i'm assuming you meant 303
- # [21:25] <Hixie> anyway, https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22757
- # [21:25] <Ms2ger> Anyway, redirect annevk
- # [21:27] <annevk> Hixie: initialize the callback this value?
- # [21:27] <annevk> Hixie: how is that unclear?
- # [21:28] <Hixie> the word "initialize" isn't in a[C[Catht step?
- # [21:28] <Hixie> woah
- # [21:28] <Hixie> isn't in that step""
- # [21:29] * Joins: SteveF (~chatzilla@cpc3-nmal20-2-0-cust916.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [21:29] <Hixie> man, when i have latency, i get all kinds of weird effects. that makes no sense.
- # [21:29] <Hixie> it's supposed to be tcp!
- # [21:30] * Joins: matjas (uid2247@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qnfmfdlsjumvksul)
- # [21:34] <annevk> Hmm, shrug
- # [21:39] <ondras> Hixie: so, can you please confirm that stuff with addEventListener and capturing phase?
- # [21:39] <ondras> no need to actually file a bug right now, just a confirmation for me..
- # [21:44] * Joins: dbaron (~dbaron@v-1045.fw1.sfo1.mozilla.net)
- # [21:47] <Hixie> ondras: confirm which stuff?
- # [21:47] <ondras> 21:26 < ondras> so only the wording at addEventListener shall be probably improved w.r.t. CAPTURING_PHASE
- # [21:47] <ondras> 21:21 < ondras> Hixie: so, the spec states that listeners added with capture=true will be executed only during
- # [21:48] <ondras> CAPTURING_PHASE
- # [21:48] <ondras> 21:21 < ondras> Hixie: which does not seem to be the case when they are attached to the element to which the event is dispatched
- # [21:49] <Hixie> the non-normative text?
- # [21:50] <ondras> yes
- # [21:50] <ondras> "When set to true, the capture argument ensures"
- # [21:50] <ondras> this, exactly
- # [21:50] <Hixie> yeah, that looks to be bogus.
- # [21:50] <Hixie> i filed https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22758
- # [21:50] <ondras> cool, thanks
- # [21:51] <Hixie> generally i ignore non-normative text
- # [21:52] <ondras> oh?
- # [21:52] * Joins: erichynds (~ehynds@64.206.121.41)
- # [21:52] * Joins: Smylers (~smylers@host86-128-219-162.range86-128.btcentralplus.com)
- # [21:54] * Joins: jwalden (~waldo@2620:101:8003:200:3ea9:f4ff:fe34:6fd4)
- # [21:54] <Hixie> ondras: "ain't nobody got time for that", as they say
- # [21:54] <Hixie> afk
- # [21:54] * Joins: Spedax (~spedax@5.149.138.2)
- # [21:57] * Quits: SteveF (~chatzilla@cpc3-nmal20-2-0-cust916.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [21:58] <annevk> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2013/07/22.html seems pretty cool
- # [21:59] * Quits: Spedax (~spedax@5.149.138.2) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
- # [21:59] * coyotebush_ is now known as coyotebush
- # [22:01] * Joins: SteveF (~chatzilla@cpc3-nmal20-2-0-cust916.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [22:03] * Quits: krit (~krit@178-24-147-149-dynip.superkabel.de) (Quit: Leaving.)
- # [22:05] * Quits: lmclister (~lmclister@sjfw1-a.adobe.com) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
- # [22:06] * Quits: SteveF (~chatzilla@cpc3-nmal20-2-0-cust916.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
- # [22:07] * Quits: annevk (~annevk@207.239.114.206) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [22:07] * Joins: annevk_ (~annevk@207.239.114.206)
- # [22:09] * Joins: j_wright (~jwright@ip70-173-127-54.lv.lv.cox.net)
- # [22:12] * Quits: jorgepedret (~jorgepedr@S01067444013f60b9.vc.shawcable.net) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
- # [22:12] * Joins: galant (~galant@77.28.10.48)
- # [22:14] <annevk_> ondras: Hixie: order is registration order
- # [22:14] * annevk_ is now known as annevk
- # [22:15] <annevk> ondras: Hixie: I'll make the spec make a copy rather than say it's a static list...
- # [22:15] * Joins: Maurice (copyman@5ED573FA.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
- # [22:16] * Quits: reyre (~reyre@142.204.133.18)
- # [22:16] * Joins: reyre (~rick@142.204.133.24)
- # [22:20] * Quits: Smylers (~smylers@host86-128-219-162.range86-128.btcentralplus.com) (Quit: Leaving.)
- # [22:21] <annevk> ondras: Hixie: thanks!
- # [22:21] <annevk> ondras: I'll add you as "Ondra Zara"
- # [22:25] * Joins: krit (~krit@178-24-147-149-dynip.superkabel.de)
- # [22:27] * Quits: galant (~galant@77.28.10.48) (Changing host)
- # [22:27] * Joins: galant (~galant@unaffiliated/dekiss)
- # [22:29] <galant> why this if ( number.style.color == "rgb(170, 0, 0") is not returning true? he number.style.color is rgb(170, 0, 0)
- # [22:29] <galant> ok sorry for annoying I found my mistake :S
- # [22:30] * Quits: Kolombiken (~Adium@94.137.124.2) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [22:30] * Joins: Kolombiken (~Adium@gateway.creuna.se)
- # [22:31] * Joins: lmclister (~lmclister@sjfw1-a.adobe.com)
- # [22:33] * Joins: shepazutoo (~shepazuto@67.23.204.2)
- # [22:33] * Quits: aklein (uid4454@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jnxuotniqliwraqx) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
- # [22:42] * Joins: david_carlisle (~chatzilla@dcarlisle.demon.co.uk)
- # [22:46] * Quits: cheron (~cheron@unaffiliated/cheron) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
- # [22:51] * Quits: TallTed (~Thud@63.119.36.36)
- # [22:52] * Joins: annevk_ (~annevk@207.239.114.206)
- # [22:52] * Quits: annevk (~annevk@207.239.114.206) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [22:54] * Quits: Kolombiken (~Adium@gateway.creuna.se) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [22:55] * Joins: Kolombiken (~Adium@94.137.124.2)
- # [22:55] <smaug____> rafaelw: ping
- # [22:56] <smaug____> rafaelw: nm, annevk_ will look into the MutationObserver issue later
- # [22:57] <annevk_> smaug____: so fwiw, per spec transient registered observers are just a subclass
- # [22:57] <annevk_> smaug____: they don't have a relationship of sorts
- # [22:57] * Quits: yodasw16 (~yodasw16@ql1fwhide.rockfin.com) (Quit: yodasw16)
- # [22:57] <smaug____> right
- # [22:57] <annevk_> smaug____: they do have an observer and options associated with them
- # [22:58] <smaug____> 2. talks about one observer, not all
- # [22:58] * Quits: Ms2ger (~Ms2ger@91.182.0.182) (Quit: nn)
- # [22:58] <annevk_> so I guess we want to remove the transient registered observers for which the observer is the context object
- # [22:58] * Quits: david_carlisle (~chatzilla@dcarlisle.demon.co.uk) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0a1/20130719030204])
- # [22:58] <annevk_> hmm yeah, is that correct?
- # [22:59] <smaug____> rafaelw: does that sound ok to you?
- # [22:59] <smaug____> that is what Gecko does
- # [22:59] <smaug____> and it is IMO the sanest model
- # [22:59] <annevk_> but the talking about one observer bit
- # [22:59] <annevk_> okay really have to go, will look into the logs later
- # [22:59] * Quits: annevk_ (~annevk@207.239.114.206) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [23:00] * Joins: Kolombiken1 (~Adium@94.137.124.2)
- # [23:00] <smaug____> rafaelw: IIRC in the email you mentioned disconnect() but that is not what should happen, since it removes all the observers
- # [23:00] <smaug____> hmm, btw, should disconnect take an optional param, a Node, so that only some observers could be removed
- # [23:02] * Quits: Kolombiken (~Adium@94.137.124.2) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
- # [23:05] * Quits: scor (scor@drupal.org/user/52142/view) (Quit: scor)
- # [23:11] * Quits: ehsan_ (~ehsan@24-212-206-174.cable.teksavvy.com) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
- # [23:11] * Joins: ehsan (~ehsan@24-212-206-174.cable.teksavvy.com)
- # [23:12] * Quits: jwalden (~waldo@2620:101:8003:200:3ea9:f4ff:fe34:6fd4) (Quit: brb)
- # [23:13] * Joins: mven (~mven@169.241.49.234)
- # [23:15] * Quits: rubatdub (~khalil@213.188.180.185) (Quit: Quitte)
- # [23:16] * Quits: krit (~krit@178-24-147-149-dynip.superkabel.de) (Quit: Leaving.)
- # [23:18] * Joins: jwalden (~waldo@2620:101:8003:200:3ea9:f4ff:fe34:6fd4)
- # [23:20] * Joins: sgalineau (~sylvaing@sjfw1-a.adobe.com)
- # [23:24] * Joins: reyre_ (~reyre@CPE7cb21b1e2cf4-CM7cb21b1e2cf1.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
- # [23:27] * Quits: erichynds (~ehynds@64.206.121.41) (Quit: erichynds)
- # [23:29] * Quits: frozenice` (~frozenice@unaffiliated/fr0zenice) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [23:36] * Joins: marcosc (~marcosc@bl11-136-90.dsl.telepac.pt)
- # [23:37] * Quits: marcosc (~marcosc@bl11-136-90.dsl.telepac.pt) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [23:43] * Quits: svl (~me@ip565744a7.direct-adsl.nl) (Quit: And back he spurred like a madman, shrieking a curse to the sky.)
- # [23:51] * Joins: yorick (~yorick@oftn/member/yorick)
- # [23:52] * Joins: jorgepedret (~jorgepedr@64-46-23-103.dyn.novuscom.net)
- # [23:55] * Joins: Spedax (~spedax@5.149.138.2)
- # [23:56] * Quits: newtron (~newtron@199.71.174.103) (Remote host closed the connection)
- # [23:57] * Joins: Lachy (~Lachy@cm-84.215.104.248.getinternet.no)
- # [23:58] * Quits: shepazutoo (~shepazuto@67.23.204.2) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
- # [23:58] * Joins: Cromulent (~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com)
- # [23:59] * Quits: Spedax (~spedax@5.149.138.2) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
- # Session Close: Tue Jul 23 00:00:00 2013
The end :)