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  9. # [00:05] <matjas> zcorpan: ie doesn’t support data: there
  10. # [00:05] <zcorpan> suspected so
  11. # [00:07] <zcorpan> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=264197 people seem confused. nobody seem to have tested whether IE supports .colno, afaict
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  13. # [00:09] <zcorpan> i have given review comments about IE's tests saying that they are confusing, but apparently they haven't been fixed
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  27. # [00:31] <jgraham> matjas: You should really write tests that W3C can use
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  119. # [06:39] <yaffle> Hello!
  120. # [06:46] <yaffle> Why Firefox delays FIRST "progress" event for XMLHttpRequest for about 50ms ?
  121. # [06:47] <yaffle> and Chrome fires FIRST progress event while readyState === 2
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  171. # [09:11] <matjas> jgraham: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/260
  172. # [09:16] <matjas> jgraham: IMHO crowdsourcing the results per browser through Browserscope (like on http://mathiasbynens.be/demo/xhr-responsetype) is still a good reason to have a separate test page
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  174. # [09:17] <Ms2ger> matjas, tests should just be under /XMLHttpRequest, not /XMLHttpRequest/tests/submissions/MathiasBynens
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  177. # [09:22] <matjas> Ms2ger: fixed
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  219. # [11:12] <BW^-> XMLHttpRequest 2 spec question:
  220. # [11:12] <BW^-> a FormData submitted using XMLHttpRequest.send() in a browser with XHR version 2 support - how do we get a proper content-type set on the XHR submission, so the server knows what "boundary" to scan for?
  221. # [11:12] <BW^-> i mean, the spec is not intended to be that the server must autodetect boundary right???
  222. # [11:13] <BW^-> ah wait, trying with not setting any content-type on the XHR as to let the browser set it.
  223. # [11:23] <jgraham> matjas: Nice. Your history rewrite upset critic a bit though. That might just be a critic bug of course...
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  238. # [12:01] <BW^-> could it ever happen that XHR2 would .send() a file from a FormData within the form data MIME-encoded contents, in another format than binary?
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  246. # [12:18] <matjas> jgornick: it is :P
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  256. # [12:44] <matjas> oh man, s/jgornick/jgraham/
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  264. # [13:09] <jgraham> matjas: What did you actually do?
  265. # [13:11] <matjas> jgraham: git commit --amend; git push -f
  266. # [13:11] <jgraham> I see
  267. # [13:12] <jgraham> It's a pity that github encourages that kind of behaviour :(
  268. # [13:13] <odinho> It's a history rewrite with new changes as well.
  269. # [13:13] <jgraham> (it makes more sense to rebase the branch once it is reviewed. But github strongly encourages merges)
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  278. # [13:21] * Topic is 'WHATWG: http://www.whatwg.org/ -- logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ & http://logbot.glob.com.au/ -- stats: http://gavinsharp.com/irc/whatwg.html -- Please leave your sense of logic at the door, thanks!'
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  281. # [13:23] <jgraham> SimonSapin: I'm saying that rewriting pushed commits in ways that both change the content and the history is bad
  282. # [13:24] <jgraham> (except pure moves obviously)
  283. # [13:24] <jgraham> (but they are equivalent to merges)
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  288. # [13:36] <ondras> Ms2ger: I am happy to hear someone who favors mercurial as well. Do you have any particular areas where hg triumphs over git?
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  297. # [14:02] <mynameis> can you explain this? If the parent element is an ol element, then the li element has an ordinal value.
  298. # [14:02] <mynameis> what means ordinal value?
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  304. # [14:12] <GPHemsley> TabAtkins: Ah, thanks, that's cool—except for one problem: they're not aligned properly.
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  309. # [14:23] <Ms2ger> ondras, usability?
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  311. # [14:25] <ondras> Ms2ger: well, some uses cases in particular? I favor hg mostly because of some subjective feelings (such as "bookmark" being a much better name than "branch"), but I am having troubles arguing with some concrete scenarios
  312. # [14:26] <ondras> Ms2ger: so I am interested in what *you* find superior in mercurial
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  316. # [14:29] <mynameis> if I make good website about webdesign with nice reference to all html elements css properties javascript functions and syntax tutorials php/mysql .. will you put it on the topic? ^^
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  318. # [14:29] <Ms2ger> No
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  345. # [15:24] <SimonSapin> mynameis: you can contribute to webplatform.org
  346. # [15:24] <SimonSapin> Or MDN. Or both.
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  387. # [16:37] <matjas> in case it’s useful for anyone else — encode/decode HTML entities as per the HTML spec, from the command line: https://github.com/mathiasbynens/he#using-the-he-binary
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  418. # [17:30] <TabAtkins> GPHemsley: Such a complainer. ^_^ They're aligned properly for being list-style-position:inside list items.
  419. # [17:31] <TabAtkins> GPHemsley: You can fake outside alignment to some degree with abspos, but really you just need to wait until ::marker is supported by browsers.
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  422. # [17:45] <GPHemsley> TabAtkins: Yeah, that's what I figured. I just wish they'd hurry up. (The Mozilla bug has been on file for ~7 years.)
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  425. # [17:47] <Ms2ger> Patches welcome :)
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  428. # [17:49] <smaug____> ah, good, annevk commenting in Web Audio mailing list about the insane idea to expose data races
  429. # [17:49] <smaug____> hopefully that issue will be fixed
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  438. # [18:03] <Hixie> mynameis1: ordinal means "Of or relating to a thing's position in a series"
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  443. # [18:10] <GPHemsley> Ms2ger: Oh, it's on my radar now. But it'd be a big time commitment, since I have no idea where the code lives or what it should look like. ;)
  444. # [18:11] <GPHemsley> Ms2ger: Also, waiting for a response from dbaron as to what his plans are.
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  453. # [18:30] <danielfilho|w> hey guys, Salsinhasta is sending spam in pvt when you join the channel.
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  467. # [18:55] <Rintze> Hi, I was wondering if people are aware http://validator.nu/ is giving a 503.
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  478. # [19:19] <gsnedders> jgraham: "Disable tracking" isn't doing anything.
  479. # [19:21] <gsnedders> https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/225 appears not be updating properly
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  484. # [19:27] <jgraham> gsnedders: It was disabled
  485. # [19:27] <jgraham> I just enabled it
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  487. # [19:27] <gsnedders> :)
  488. # [19:27] <gsnedders> Anyhow, weird.
  489. # [19:27] <gsnedders> Never showed up as disabled here.
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  491. # [19:29] <jgraham> gsnedders: Probably cached
  492. # [19:29] <jgraham> Or something
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  500. # [19:41] <Rintze> Bump. (validator.nu gives a "Service Temporarily Unavailable" 503 error)
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  502. # [19:44] <jgraham> Rintze: I think hsivonen_ and MikeSmith are both timezone-impaired right now
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  504. # [19:48] <Rintze> Do you know if they'll catch up on the log?
  505. # [19:49] <Rintze> I'm also not sure if this is the best place to report the issue.
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  507. # [19:54] <jgraham> Rintze: I think so
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  509. # [19:55] <Rintze> Okay, thanks. Have a good day.
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  529. # [20:08] <cshu> jsbell, ping
  530. # [20:08] <jsbell> cshu: what's up?
  531. # [20:08] <jsbell> (FYI, I've been on vacation for the last week so missed any interesting discussions)
  532. # [20:09] <cshu> jsbell, i plan to make a proposal about atob/btoa binary encoding. can you create an account for me on whatwg?
  533. # [20:10] <cshu> jsbell, i didn't see anything going on within my thread. i am based on east-coast so i don't know if anybody met to talk aobut binary encoding in CA
  534. # [20:10] <jsbell> cshu: I doubt there was any discussion not on the list; not a high priority topic.
  535. # [20:11] <cshu> jsbell, i guess so, too.
  536. # [20:11] <jsbell> cshu: I believe you need to follow the directions at the top of http://wiki.whatwg.org/ to get the account, i.e ping someone with admin powers i.e. not me...
  537. # [20:12] <jsbell> cshu: Oh, wow, I am on the list.
  538. # [20:12] <jsbell> Let me figure out how.
  539. # [20:12] <cshu> jsbell, YEAH. that's why i ping you. :)
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  546. # [20:19] <jsbell> cshu: you should get email shortly w/ random password etc
  547. # [20:19] <cshu> jsbell, excellent! thank you so much
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  619. # [22:06] <Hixie> gsnedders: ping https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22818
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  669. # [23:23] <mynameis> omg guys why tet looks like this in opera, is it just me or?
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