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  21. # [00:40] <rego> I've a question about if breaks should work or not in <BR> elements (I sent a mail to www-style explaining the behavior of breaks in Gecko and WebKit: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Jul/0535.html ) any feedback on the topic is welcomed, thanks :-)
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  27. # [00:50] <annevk> Hixie: about the Date object thing, the link I gave earlier to es-discuss has various developers on record
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  34. # [00:54] <annevk> rego: I recommend looking in the rendering section of the HTML standard to see how <br> is to be implemented
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  36. # [00:54] <annevk> rego: then emulate that with a <span> (if possible) and see what happens
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  47. # [01:02] <rego> annevk: thanks for the feedback
  48. # [01:03] <rego> I had already tried with <SPAN> elements, the behavior in Gecko is the same than with <BR> elements, however in WebKit the behavior is different a <SPAN> element with "display:block" is enough to cause a break (it doesn't need content, like for the case of <BR> elements)
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  50. # [01:04] <rego> according to the spec, forced breaks should only work in block elements, and <BR> is an inline element in WebKit (even if you mark it as display:block) unless you set content:"" to it
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  68. # [01:29] <Hixie> anne: that link seems to only have you, brendan, and rick on record -- and rick is just asking a question. So, not sure what you're referring to.
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  147. # [04:33] <zewt> cool, apparently putting words in quotes no longer disables fuzzing with google
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  149. # [04:33] <zewt> thanks for making it harder and harder to search for what i say to search for
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  267. # [11:20] <smaug____> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22836 "Every tech concept/architecture should derived from single First Principle" ?
  268. # [11:20] <smaug____> huh
  269. # [11:20] <smaug____> this is the web
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  271. # [11:20] <smaug____> no logic or such principles here
  272. # [11:21] <smaug____> (but would be ofc nice to have specs which address some particular problem )
  273. # [11:24] <Ms2ger> Pah, this isn't theoretical physics
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  279. # [11:45] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Pointing to a merged PR and saying "don't do it like that" seems ironic given the 90-odd open PRs
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  281. # [11:45] <Ms2ger> jgraham, all I'm saying is that I didn't want to review it :)
  282. # [11:45] <Ms2ger> jgraham, and feel free to review some of my open PRs :)
  283. # [11:46] <jgraham> Ms2ger: I will :)
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  285. # [11:46] <Ms2ger> (I'd better pester you now, I know how busy the ateam is)
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  287. # [11:46] <jgraham> But there are some advantages to larger PRs. It makes it easier to get an overview of what's covered, rather than doing it incrementally
  288. # [11:47] <jgraham> Of course they expose more of the inadequecies of the github ui
  289. # [11:49] <Ms2ger> Regardless of UI, review time scales non-linearly with patch size, in my experience
  290. # [11:50] <jgraham> Well if that's true here it seems like a purely psycological effect
  291. # [11:50] <jgraham> Having N tests as 1 patch compared to N tests as N patches doesn't change anything about the amount of review needed
  292. # [11:52] <ondras> hmh
  293. # [11:52] <ondras> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=897860
  294. # [11:52] <ondras> noone confirmed yet
  295. # [11:52] <ondras> strange
  296. # [11:52] <jgraham> OTOH for a patch to software, an N line change might well be less than half the amount of work of a 2N line change because there will be more interactions
  297. # [11:56] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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  307. # [12:11] <Ms2ger> So is anybody going to implement HTTP2?
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  320. # [12:58] <tobie> marcosc: you around?
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  322. # [12:59] <marcosc> tobie: yessir
  323. # [13:00] <tobie> So FYI I'm in the process of streamlining the CLA for the main test repository to completely remove the requirements for signing the grant II form etc.
  324. # [13:01] <Ms2ger> Interesting
  325. # [13:01] <marcosc> tobie: that's great to hear
  326. # [13:01] <tobie> marcosc: in that process, the pull request becomes the contribution
  327. # [13:01] <Ms2ger> Were any lawyers hurt in the process?
  328. # [13:01] <marcosc> keep out of this Ms2ger, this is all for me!
  329. # [13:01] <marcosc> :)
  330. # [13:01] <marcosc> tobie: nice :)
  331. # [13:02] <marcosc> Lawrence Lessig will have to write a new book: "A PR is Law" :)
  332. # [13:02] <tobie> and thus you're automatically opting in to the CLA by opening a PR.
  333. # [13:02] <tobie> tuning the text here:
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  339. # [13:03] <tobie> https://github.com/tobie/web-platform-tests/blob/a6754bd6dd9af54a2b9d352c78924ea443b7b70c/CONTRIBUTING.md
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  342. # [13:04] <tobie> marcosc: I suggest you use the same process for the sysapps work
  343. # [13:04] <marcosc> tobie: without doing a PR, you have a small typo "You further agrees"
  344. # [13:04] <marcosc> tobie: I think that is good
  345. # [13:04] <tobie> yeah, fixed on the plane , haven't pushed my changes yet
  346. # [13:04] <marcosc> ok
  347. # [13:05] <tobie> Let me ping you once those are in the main repo.
  348. # [13:05] <marcosc> excellent
  349. # [13:05] <marcosc> thanks for the help!
  350. # [13:05] <tobie> np
  351. # [13:06] <marcosc> bbl
  352. # [13:07] <tobie> Ms2ger: never heard of the famous Swiss TV series "Tobie the Lawyer Slayer"?
  353. # [13:08] <Ms2ger> Excellent
  354. # [13:08] * Ms2ger doesn't like W3C lawyers
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  356. # [13:11] <tobie> Ms2ger: W3C lawyers or W3C members lawyers?
  357. # [13:11] <Ms2ger> The former
  358. # [13:11] <tobie> So that's something personal, then, I gather.
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  361. # [13:13] <Ms2ger> Actually, probably both
  362. # [13:13] <tobie> :)
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  364. # [13:15] * Ms2ger would put them with the telephone cleaners
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  447. # [15:54] <mynameis> for some reason I cant :S
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  468. # [16:29] <tobie> marcosc: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/261
  469. # [16:30] <marcosc> thanks tobie, will take a look soon
  470. # [16:30] <tobie> np
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  523. # [18:22] <annevk> http://9to5mac.com/2013/07/29/new-iphone-with-biometric-fingerprint-sensor-seemingly-confirmed-by-ios-leak/ <!DOCTYPE> lol
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  531. # [18:47] <jgraham> Oh man
  532. # [18:48] <jgraham> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/166
  533. # [18:48] <jgraham> Got merged, than Ms2ger made a comment, then the branch got updated, but now the GH UI doesn't show the new commit
  534. # [18:49] <jgraham> Also the branch history is a mess
  535. # [18:49] <jgraham> Why do people like GH so much?
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  546. # [19:02] <TabAtkins> 'cause it's easy.
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  566. # [19:46] <Ms2ger> jgraham, no idea
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  568. # [19:49] <jgraham> TabAtkins: Sadly it's easy to do broken things and hard to do non-broken things
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  623. # [21:24] <jgraham> So what happens if I pass window to an object that expects a Sequence<T>?
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  625. # [21:24] <jgraham> s/object/interface/
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  632. # [21:35] <Ms2ger> jgraham, I think you get a sequence of windows
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  634. # [21:35] <Ms2ger> If it's sequence<DOMString>, you probably get ["[Object Window]", ...]
  635. # [21:35] <Domenic_> wouldn't it depend on whether there are elements with ids length, 0, 1, etc.?
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  638. # [21:35] <Ms2ger> Domenic_, window == window.frames
  639. # [21:35] <Domenic_> Ms2ger: ah cool, thanks.
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  641. # [21:36] <Ms2ger> It's one of the weird things that someone thought were a good idea in the Netscape era and stuck around
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  643. # [21:36] <Domenic_> yeah, figured
  644. # [21:37] <jgraham> Ms2ger: OK, that makes sense
  645. # [21:38] <jgraham> Or at least I can see how that could happen. Not that I have wored it out from WebIDL yet :)
  646. # [21:38] <jgraham> *worked
  647. # [21:38] <Ms2ger> I thought the conversion to sequence wasn't too intricate?
  648. # [21:39] * Ms2ger looks
  649. # [21:39] <jgraham> Oh, I see
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  651. # [21:39] <jgraham> Right, I wasn't sure if the overload resolution algorithm disallowed it
  652. # [21:40] <Ms2ger> Ah
  653. # [21:40] <Ms2ger> If there's overloads, don't rely on me :)
  654. # [21:41] <jgraham> I should get heycam|away to review this test :)
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  710. # [23:31] <mynameis> why I can't select element in iframe? I have this code http://pastie.org/8191347
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