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  56. # [01:13] <jacobolus> hey guys. sorry, super dodgy wifi and had to move around a bit
  57. # [01:13] <jacobolus> er, whoops
  58. # [01:13] <jacobolus> wrong channel
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  77. # [01:59] <t3oss> on w3c websites tables are used for layout :S
  78. # [01:59] <t3oss> you know?
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  83. # [02:06] <zewt> ffff why does chrome have pdf support with form support that doesn't work, so I fill out a form and then have to ... save as and do it all again
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  88. # [02:07] <zewt> bonus points for not being able to copy text from text fields
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  396. # [13:21] <annevk> Hah, I thought http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-uri-get-off-my-lawn was about the URL standard initially. But it's about standards not tampering with the URL value space, which makes perfect sense.
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  401. # [13:29] <annevk> I forgot about those.
  402. # [13:30] <SimonSapin> or /.well-known/browserid
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  568. # [20:39] <Hixie> yo
  569. # [20:40] <bholley> Hixie: is there ever a situation in which the spec requires us to know the exact entry script, or is it really just tracking the entry global?
  570. # [20:40] <bholley> Hixie: I'm looking into implementing a proper script entry point stack in Gecko
  571. # [20:40] <bholley> Hixie: and it looks easier to just to keep a stack of globals
  572. # [20:40] <bholley> Hixie: rather than script objects
  573. # [20:40] <Hixie> global meaning the Window object?
  574. # [20:40] <bholley> Hixie: for ownership reasons
  575. # [20:40] <bholley> Hixie: yes
  576. # [20:40] <Hixie> you have to know the base URL of the entry script sometimes
  577. # [20:41] <Hixie> and the referrer source
  578. # [20:41] <bholley> Hixie: and that can be different from the document?
  579. # [20:41] <Hixie> interesting question
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  581. # [20:42] <bholley> Hixie: if the script comes from jquery.com, do you need to know jquery.com's base URI, or the document's base URI?
  582. # [20:42] <Hixie> hmmmm
  583. # [20:42] * bholley would guess the latter
  584. # [20:43] <Hixie> i think if i'm reading the spec right the base URL for an event handler could be different if that element has an xml:base?
  585. # [20:43] <Hixie> but i've no idea if that's realistic or not
  586. # [20:43] * bholley doesn't know a darn thing about xml
  587. # [20:43] <Hixie> oh, no, nevermind
  588. # [20:43] <Hixie> xml:base isn't xml
  589. # [20:43] <Hixie> it's <base> on a per-element basis
  590. # [20:44] <bholley> "The xml:base attribute (XML only)"
  591. # [20:44] <Hixie> i think you're probably safe to use the global, and the global's document
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  593. # [20:44] <Hixie> "XML only" there only refers to authoring conformance criteria
  594. # [20:44] <bholley> ah
  595. # [20:44] <bholley> Hixie: ok. In that case, do you think it makes sense to update the spec to talk about entry Windows?
  596. # [20:44] <bholley> Hixie: bz would like it to be the case if that's what we implement
  597. # [20:45] <Hixie> well, it's more complicated than that due to workers
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  599. # [20:45] <Hixie> but it would make sense to have "script's base URL" and so forth defined relative to a single object
  600. # [20:45] <Hixie> rather than relative to each script
  601. # [20:46] <Hixie> wouldn't be a high priority for me to change, though, given the risk level, since it would be purely editorial
  602. # [20:46] <bholley> Hixie: because workers don't have a Window?
  603. # [20:46] <Hixie> yeah
  604. # [20:46] <bholley> Hixie: what about "entry global"?
  605. # [20:47] <Hixie> well, you have to worry about what the "script's document" is sometimes
  606. # [20:47] <Hixie> which gets especially tricky with dedicated workers created from shared workers, etc
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  608. # [20:48] <Hixie> let's see
  609. # [20:48] <bholley> Hixie: I'm happy to file a spec bug, implement it with globals in Gecko, and let you know how it goes, assuming you're eventually open to changing the spec
  610. # [20:48] <Hixie> all these things are always set via the "Create a script" algorithm, i think
  611. # [20:48] <Hixie> bholley: lgtm
  612. # [20:48] <bholley> great
  613. # [20:48] <bholley> Hixie: do you have a good name in mind?
  614. # [20:48] <bholley> Hixie: so that I can use that in our implementation?
  615. # [20:49] <bholley> Hixie: maybe just "EntryPoint"
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  617. # [20:49] <Hixie> well
  618. # [20:49] <Hixie> did you see the recent change to entry script?
  619. # [20:49] <bholley> probably not
  620. # [20:49] <Hixie> did it yesterday, iirc
  621. # [20:49] <bholley> Hixie: oh, the incumbent script stuff
  622. # [20:49] <Hixie> part of the redefinition of incumbent script, yeah
  623. # [20:49] <bholley> or is this different?
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  625. # [20:50] <Hixie> entry script is now just the first script in the stack of incumbent scripts, and the incumbent script is the last one
  626. # [20:50] <Hixie> so
  627. # [20:50] <bholley> ahhh
  628. # [20:50] <bholley> interesting
  629. # [20:50] <bholley> so they're implemented together
  630. # [20:50] <Hixie> i think in the spec i'd probably keep the idea of using "script", but what i would do is redefine everything in terms of the script's something or other
  631. # [20:50] <Hixie> document? window/workerglobal? something
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  633. # [20:52] <bholley> Hixie: wait, I'm confused by these changes
  634. # [20:52] <Hixie> (hmm... "create a script" is called by: create an impotent script, create a script from a node, timers, and importScripts(). and workers also create scripts.)
  635. # [20:53] <bholley> Hixie: previously, entry points were a stack
  636. # [20:53] <bholley> Hixie: now the entry point is always the bottom of the stack
  637. # [20:53] <bholley> Hixie: isn't that a pretty big behavioral change?
  638. # [20:53] <Hixie> bholley: huh
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  640. # [20:53] <Hixie> bholley: interesting point
  641. # [20:54] <Hixie> bholley: ok, disregard recent changes.
  642. # [20:54] <bholley> ok
  643. # [20:54] <Hixie> so wait
  644. # [20:54] <Hixie> why do we ever care about the entry script rather than the incumbent script
  645. # [20:55] <bholley> because of the places in the spec where it's required?
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  647. # [20:55] <bholley> IIUC, the entry script stuff is baked into the web platform, as a result of some funny Gecko implementation details back in the day
  648. # [20:55] <bholley> where the entry script is sometimes observable but different from the incumbent script
  649. # [20:56] <Hixie> i guess when script in window X dispatches and event that is handled by script in window A which calls script in window B which calls an API, some APIs use A and some use B, for no apparent reason?
  650. # [20:56] <Hixie> ok
  651. # [20:56] <bholley> Hixie: right. This has to do with how JSContexts historically worked in Gecko, I think
  652. # [20:56] <Hixie> yeah ok let me fix this thing with how i broke entry script, first
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  654. # [20:56] <bholley> ok, great
  655. # [20:57] <Hixie> entry script should be the most recently pushed incumbent script that was pushed by the "jump to entry point" algorithm, right
  656. # [20:59] <Hixie> (having network issues, may have to fix this after lunch)
  657. # [20:59] <Hixie> anyway what i was saying earlier
  658. # [20:59] <Hixie> is that what we might want to do is hang all this stuff off the globals, like you suggested
  659. # [21:00] <Hixie> like, have each global have a "global object script settings" conceptual object
  660. # [21:00] <bholley> yeah, I'm pretty sure that every entry script is also an incumbent script
  661. # [21:00] <Hixie> and then use that stack
  662. # [21:00] <bholley> Hixie: right, that sounds perfect
  663. # [21:00] <Hixie> use that on the stack, i mean
  664. # [21:00] <Hixie> and define all the script settings in terms of that object
  665. # [21:00] <bholley> Hixie: so they might be able to be the same stack, which some of them being specially-annotated as entry points
  666. # [21:00] <Hixie> instead of right now, where those settings are on the scripts themselves
  667. # [21:01] <bholley> Hixie: that seems cleaner (and conveniently Gecko-like)
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  669. # [21:01] <Hixie> ok, i think we're on the same page for both of these things
  670. # [21:01] <Hixie> this would actually clean up the spec quite a bit
  671. # [21:01] <Hixie> so maybe it's worth doing now despite the risk
  672. # [21:01] <Hixie> it would make it easier to tell if there was some reason we couldn't do that, certainly
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  674. # [21:01] <bholley> Hixie: ok. I'll file a spec bug after lunch?
  675. # [21:02] <Hixie> i can file a bug
  676. # [21:02] <bholley> Hixie: ok
  677. # [21:02] <Hixie> dunno what's up with my server. it's responding fine over http and icmp, but over ssh i'm getting multi-minute lag.
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  682. # [21:06] <Hixie> bholley: filed https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22863 and https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22862
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  684. # [21:07] <bholley> Hixie: \o/
  685. # [21:07] <Hixie> hopefully i can edit the spec once i have eaten
  686. # [21:08] <Hixie> dunno wtf is up with my server
  687. # [21:08] <Hixie> bbl
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  713. # [21:47] <aklein> Hixie: so I've been shopping around your <form><div><script>/*remove div*/</script><input> test case and everyone thinks we should just change the parser
  714. # [21:47] <aklein> that is, of the four or five people on WebKit and Blink I asked
  715. # [21:48] <aklein> do you happen to know if that behavior is a webcompat thing, or just fallout from the other <form> craziness?
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  719. # [21:54] <aklein> it would be nice to tighten the <form> association rules so that the form and the associated element be in the same tree
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  727. # [22:13] <Hixie> aklein: beats me, but if IE already doesn't do it, or if you can convince them to change, then it would be worth considering, certainly
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  731. # [22:25] <aklein> Hixie: IE 9 does not associate in this case: http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?saved=2428
  732. # [22:26] <Hixie> IE 9 didn't implement the parser
  733. # [22:26] <Hixie> you have to test IE 10 or IE 11, i think
  734. # [22:26] <aklein> yeah, that was next up
  735. # [22:26] <aklein> (don't have those as handy, amusingly)
  736. # [22:26] <Hixie> yeah me either
  737. # [22:26] * Hixie was considering actually buying a windows tablet just to have a way to test IE
  738. # [22:26] <Hixie> but i haven't gotten around to it yet
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  770. # [23:18] <Hixie> hsivonen_, MikeSmith: you guys didn't implement a #line pragma analogue in the validator while i wasn't looking by any chance, did you?
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  775. # [23:32] <aklein> Hixie: sigh, returns 1 on a Windows Phone
  776. # [23:33] <Hixie> why sigh! that means we have four-way interop! that's awesome! :-D
  777. # [23:33] * Hixie declares victory
  778. # [23:33] <aklein> :)
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  787. # [23:45] <t3oss> how Aleca count visits?
  788. # [23:45] <t3oss> Alexa*
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