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  35. # [02:28] <crocket> hi guys
  36. # [02:28] <crocket> Internet Explorer 8,9,10 can't display http://pastebin.com/9wRMvk3c
  37. # [02:28] <crocket> I think IE can't display an image if its src attribute contains ampersands.
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  69. # [06:41] <gsnedders> jgraham: Do you want to handle your doc loading tests?
  70. # [06:41] <gsnedders> jgraham: Review-wise, etc.?
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  72. # [06:57] <heycam> TabAtkins, the SVG WG's review of CSS Variables will be one day late; hope that's ok
  73. # [06:57] <heycam> (forgot to get to the review earlier, and our call to approve the review comments will be on Thursday)
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  107. # [10:09] <zcorpan_> TabAtkins: why not drop dppx altogether if we add x?
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  113. # [10:24] <SimonSapin> zcorpan_: isn't it too late to remove it from MQs?
  114. # [10:24] <zcorpan_> SimonSapin: dunno?
  115. # [10:25] <SimonSapin> oh, wait, it’s not in MQ
  116. # [10:25] <SimonSapin> at least not in the L3 spec
  117. # [10:26] <SimonSapin> but L4 refers to Values & Units which does have dppx
  118. # [10:27] <SimonSapin> and it’s implemented data:text/html,<style>@media(max-resolution:14dppx){body{background:green
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  128. # [10:55] <Ms2ger> jgraham, https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/40 for example
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  131. # [11:08] <jgraham> gsnedders: I am happy for other people to push fixes to them ofc
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  133. # [11:09] <jgraham> (if they are forked from your gh, I don't think I *can* push fixes. Also: I hate github.)
  134. # [11:09] <jgraham> Ms2ger: OK, investigating
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  141. # [11:16] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: so I added "testcase-wanted" and "testcase" but if you really want "needs-test" and "has-test" instead (or something else), lemme know
  142. # [11:20] <zcorpan_> SimonSapin: i see it being used in webdevdata also, so yeah
  143. # [11:20] <zcorpan_> mostly youtube.com
  144. # [11:22] <jgraham> Ms2ger: I'm not really sure what's going on. Did you change your filters at some point in the past from e.g. "/" to something more specific? I don't think such a chnage will unassign you from specific reviews (but you can do that manually on a per-review basis)
  145. # [11:22] <jgraham> If that's not the case, I will look more closely
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  159. # [11:50] <Ms2ger> jgraham, that sounds possible, yes
  160. # [11:51] <Ms2ger> jgraham, thanks
  161. # [11:51] <Ms2ger> MikeSmith, yeah, sounds good, thanks
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  172. # [12:00] <Ms2ger> zcorpan_, thanks for the reviews
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  197. # [13:15] <jgraham> TIL: DRM is evil
  198. # [13:15] <jgraham> Only joking, that was a long time ago
  199. # [13:17] <jgraham> But today I discovered that the "docking station" for my laptop doesn't provide external monitor support under linux "because of content protection"
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  201. # [13:19] <smaug____> there is mxr like thing for blink somewhere, right?
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  203. # [13:19] <smaug____> hmm, perhaps I can just check webkit
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  205. # [13:23] <smaug____> so, hrm, what...
  206. # [13:23] <smaug____> HTML spec doesn't define window.moveTo and other similar methods ?
  207. # [13:26] <Ms2ger> smaug____, might be in cssom?
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  209. # [13:27] <smaug____> hmm
  210. # [13:27] <smaug____> maybe
  211. # [13:28] <smaug____> no
  212. # [13:39] <zcorpan_> what's moveTo?
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  218. # [13:57] <smaug____> zcorpan_: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/window.moveTo
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  221. # [14:03] <zcorpan_> doesn't seem to work in opera 16, but works in chrome and firefox
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  223. # [14:04] <zcorpan_> the html spec for window.open() says to ignore the third argument, iirc
  224. # [14:05] <zcorpan_> "The third argument, features, has no defined effect and is mentioned for historical reasons only. User agents may interpret this argument as instructions to set the size and position of the browsing context, but are encouraged to instead ignore the argument entirely." http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/browsers.html#dom-open
  225. # [14:06] <smaug____> opera 16?
  226. # [14:06] <smaug____> I thought opera was like 12.x or perhaps 13
  227. # [14:07] <smaug____> ah, 12.16
  228. # [14:07] <smaug____> oh, for windows there is 16
  229. # [14:08] <zcorpan_> we skipped 13 in the move to blink, so the first version with blink on mobile was opera 14. then the first version with blink on desktop was opera 15 since it used a later version of chromium
  230. # [14:08] <zcorpan_> and now the version on the Next channel is 16
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  232. # [14:14] <zcorpan_> i guess it makes sense to spec moveTo in cssom-view
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  235. # [14:19] <smaug____> no sure why there
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  237. # [14:20] <smaug____> oh, scroll* are there
  238. # [14:20] <smaug____> but those are kind of separate things
  239. # [14:20] <smaug____> they are about the view port
  240. # [14:20] <smaug____> move* are about the OS-level window
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  242. # [14:21] <smaug____> hmm, Screen is there too
  243. # [14:22] <zcorpan_> filed https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23127
  244. # [14:23] <zcorpan_> i'm tempted to require css pixels since using device pixels seems like an effective way to make things confused and broken
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  263. # [16:03] <MikeSmith> zcorpan_: for me to. but http://html5.validator.nu/ is responding at least
  264. # [16:03] <zcorpan_> yeah
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  266. # [16:04] <zcorpan_> does html5.validator.nu have better uptime or is it just that it happens to work when validator.nu is down?
  267. # [16:05] <MikeSmith> it's on a completely different server I think
  268. # [16:05] <MikeSmith> and works pretty much all the time
  269. # [16:05] <zcorpan_> i've changed my Makefiles to use html5. instead
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  271. # [16:12] <zcorpan_> "IE11 Preview changes the character encoding for URLs. Specifically, query strings and XHR requests are now encoded using UTF-8 character encoding." http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/bg182625(v=vs.85).aspx#utf8
  272. # [16:13] <zcorpan_> is that web compatible for query strings?
  273. # [16:13] <zcorpan_> annevk: ^
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  275. # [16:17] <zcorpan_> the doctype can now trigger edge mode
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  277. # [16:37] <zcorpan_> TabAtkins: can you give an example of how to do what he wants with flexbox or grid (if it's possible) in https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22772#c13 ?
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