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  89. # [00:21] <annevk_> Ms2ger: oh... tomorrow then
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  110. # [01:33] <Hixie_> why do i still get a click if i cancel mouseup
  111. # [01:33] <Hixie_> and how can i figure out if the click i just got is related to earlier mousedown/mouseup events?
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  119. # [02:13] <zewt> because mouse events are dumb, and as far as I know you can't (reliably)
  120. # [02:14] <zewt> (other than unreliable hacks, like adding a click listener on mouseup and removing it in a timer)
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  181. # [08:09] <Hixie_> zewt: i ended up just not bothering with click and doing all the work in mousedown/mouseup
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  218. # [09:57] <Ms2ger> MikeSmith, so, actually, I didn't want a keyword for "Indicates that a test case for this bug is included somewhere in the bug report.", I wanted one for "has a test in the test suite"
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  236. # [11:04] <annevk> Ms2ger: pong
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  238. # [11:05] <Ms2ger> annevk, I was looking at http://dom.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-node-replace-all...
  239. # [11:06] <Ms2ger> Step 5 queues a mutation record with addedNodes and removedNodes set
  240. # [11:06] <Ms2ger> But those seem to be only used if "addedNodes, removedNodes, previousSibling, and nextSibling are given"
  241. # [11:07] <annevk> Also, step 4 sets it to null rather than the empty list, that might be wrong too, no?
  242. # [11:07] <Ms2ger> Well, this was my first issue :)
  243. # [11:08] <Ms2ger> "node's children" in the DocumentFragment case in step 4 is going to be empty after step 3
  244. # [11:09] <Ms2ger> And "parent's children" in step 5 are the new nodes by that point
  245. # [11:11] <annevk> Ms2ger: so let's see; in http://dom.spec.whatwg.org/#queue-a-mutation-record 4.3 we want to split that up in four distinct steps to set the properties properly
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  247. # [11:12] <Ms2ger> So it's supposed to mean "for each that's given, set it"?
  248. # [11:12] <Ms2ger> Makes sense
  249. # [11:12] <annevk> Ms2ger: yeah, maybe word it that way
  250. # [11:13] <annevk> Ms2ger: and then a bunch of variable re-ordering in replace-all
  251. # [11:13] <Ms2ger> Yep
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  253. # [11:13] <Ms2ger> And that null thing
  254. # [11:14] <annevk> What a mess
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  276. # [11:43] <annevk> Ms2ger: fixed I think
  277. # [11:43] <Ms2ger> Thanks, will check in a bit
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  283. # [11:58] <jgraham> Anyone able to contact Lachy? It would be nice to know if there's a reason for /selectors-api/tests/submissions/Opera/level1/*
  284. # [11:58] <jgraham> In web-platform-tests
  285. # [12:03] <jgraham> Well they diff identical so I think I am happy to remove them
  286. # [12:03] <jgraham> (identical to tests not under submission/)
  287. # [12:04] <Ms2ger> r=me
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  290. # [12:14] <jgraham> Hmm, I seem to be typing "blink" and wondering why it doesn't launch chrome[ium]
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  305. # [12:44] <annevk> So if you have an object that represents a list of name/value pairs. Would you still expose getNames() and getValues() or would you just have an iterator that returns {name, value} objects?
  306. # [12:45] <jgraham> In what context?
  307. # [12:45] <annevk> API design
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  309. # [12:46] <jgraham> API Design isn't a single thing
  310. # [12:46] <jgraham> Do you mean web API or some other type of API
  311. # [12:48] <annevk> Seems Map has entries(), keys(), values()
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  316. # [13:00] <annevk> So we should have some kind of consistent design between URLQuery and FormData
  317. # [13:01] <annevk> FormData needs to deal with Blob+filename->File/File. URLQuery needs to deal with being created from a string
  318. # [13:03] <annevk> Maybe http://url.spec.whatwg.org/#interface-urlquery should instead have set / setAll / delete / deletaAll
  319. # [13:03] <annevk> The current workings are a bit inconsistent...
  320. # [13:05] <annevk> (setAll would set the first one and remove the rest)
  321. # [13:07] <annevk> Or maybe the API should be simpler...
  322. # [13:07] <annevk> get() returns a sequence always. append() always appends. delete() removes all always.
  323. # [13:07] <annevk> and set() doesn't exist.
  324. # [13:08] <annevk> and if set() would exist it'd do what setAll does
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  326. # [13:31] <darobin> jgraham: I spoke to Lachy on Twitter over the weekend, so presumably he's reachable
  327. # [13:31] <Lachy> yo
  328. # [13:32] <darobin> look! he's even here
  329. # [13:32] <darobin> <jgraham> Anyone able to contact Lachy? It would be nice to know if there's a reason for /selectors-api/tests/submissions/Opera/level1/*
  330. # [13:33] <darobin> annevk: entries() is the only one you absolutely need, but having keys() and values() is often nice
  331. # [13:33] <darobin> but it's just sugar that saves you from having to make the list unique
  332. # [13:33] <annevk> darobin: if the object supports iteration you don't even need entries()
  333. # [13:34] <darobin> annevk: I didn't mean as necessarily a distinct method, just the functionality
  334. # [13:34] <SimonSapin> or just use an array?
  335. # [13:34] <annevk> darobin: you mean keys() and values() would be set(keys()) / set(values()) ?
  336. # [13:34] <Lachy> The level1 files were tests that only required selectors api level 1 to be implemented. The level 2 tests are intended to include the additional APIs like matches and find as well, though they are incomplete.
  337. # [13:35] <darobin> annevk: sorry, I'm not sure I get your question
  338. # [13:35] <annevk> darobin: the values returned by keys() and values() would be unique?
  339. # [13:35] <darobin> ah, that Set
  340. # [13:35] <darobin> yeah — otherwise what's the point?
  341. # [13:36] <darobin> a typical case for keys is e.g. when you need to generate a <select> in which people can pick something
  342. # [13:36] <darobin> and if the key maps to multiple values you just show multiple things
  343. # [13:36] <darobin> that sort of usage
  344. # [13:54] <Lachy> jgraham, if you were actually asking why they exist there as well as in the approved dir, it's just because they were put in submissions first before they reached the approved state. I suppose submissions/level1-* can be removed now.
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  346. # [13:59] <hsivonen> Hixie_: www.whatwg.org is down
  347. # [14:00] <hsivonen> Is there a mirror of the spec somewhere?
  348. # [14:00] <hsivonen> Without W3C changes, that is.
  349. # [14:07] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, wfm
  350. # [14:08] <hsivonen> weird charset thing of the day: normal navigation in Firefox doesn't inherit charset from previous doc but open in new window tries to inherit
  351. # [14:08] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: weird. considering http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.whatwg.org
  352. # [14:08] <Ms2ger> hsivonen, but https://github.com/whatwg/html-mirror should be up-to-date, I think
  353. # [14:08] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: thank
  354. # [14:08] <hsivonen> s
  355. # [14:08] <Ms2ger> Np
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  357. # [14:10] <hsivonen> so the spec says not to inherit from the previous doc
  358. # [14:10] <hsivonen> which means that Gecko inheriting on POST and on Open in New Window is bogus
  359. # [14:11] <Ms2ger> I'd agree with that, I think
  360. # [14:12] <Ms2ger> "Two of the top four New York Times Hardcover bestsellers this week were done with CSS."
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  362. # [14:18] <hsivonen> Has anyone tested if other browsers inherit from the previous document when clicking normal links within the same origin?
  363. # [14:19] <hsivonen> I didn't want to be writing test cases for this.
  364. # [14:19] <hsivonen> aaargh. so much bogosity in this general area.
  365. # [14:20] <hsivonen> and more magic being proposed.
  366. # [14:20] <Ms2ger> Would be nice to have those test cases, though ;)
  367. # [14:30] <jgraham> Lachy: OK, thanks, I removed the submissions/ files
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  371. # [14:33] <hsivonen> awesome. we're inconsistent between new tab and new window
  372. # [14:44] <annevk> hsivonen: I think basically you have to assume that there's no design and that we're responsible for creating a somewhat sensible design taking into account the constraints of deployed content
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  374. # [14:45] <annevk> hsivonen: most of the browser engine is like HTML4 spec-era, not actually understood
  375. # [14:47] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: here you go http://hsivonen.iki.fi/test/moz/charset-inheritance/
  376. # [14:48] <hsivonen> annevk: Safari suggests Firefox is doing too much DWIM
  377. # [14:48] <foolip> annevk, does http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker die together with whatwg.org?
  378. # [14:48] <hsivonen> annevk: I'll test a few IE versions and will come up with suggestions
  379. # [14:48] <annevk> foolip: yeah, queries svn.whatwg.org
  380. # [14:49] <foolip> annevk, does it still have that diff cache that needs to be thrown out periodically?
  381. # [14:49] <annevk> foolip: yeah :/
  382. # [14:49] <annevk> foolip: https://github.com/whatwg/web-apps-tracker has the code these days
  383. # [14:49] <annevk> foolip: though I suppose you still have direct access
  384. # [14:50] <hsivonen> http://hsivonen.iki.fi/test/moz/charset-inheritance/iframe.htm says utf-8 in IE10 on Windows 8 for me!
  385. # [14:50] <foolip> foolip, actually I've lost that ssh key
  386. # [14:51] <annevk> hsivonen: booting VMWare
  387. # [14:51] <foolip> annevk, I've thought from time to time that web-apps-tracker could be converted to use a local git repo and be faster+smaller
  388. # [14:51] <annevk> foolip: if you want I can set you up again
  389. # [14:51] <foolip> but apparently I've had other things to do
  390. # [14:52] <annevk> hsivonen: windows-1252 on Windows 7 / IE10
  391. # [14:52] <hsivonen> annevk: that's surprising, too!
  392. # [14:53] <hsivonen> annevk: Safari and Firefox say windows-1251
  393. # [14:54] <annevk> hsivonen: Chrome on Windows does windows-1251 too
  394. # [14:54] <hsivonen> Chrome agrees with Safari in all those test cases, it seems
  395. # [14:54] <hsivonen> time to boot some XP VMs!
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  397. # [14:56] <annevk> Almost seems like IE defaults to their default encoding. But I hope that did not change to utf-8 in Windows 8?
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  401. # [14:59] <dsheets> someone knows whatwg.org is down?
  402. # [14:59] <annevk> yeah
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  405. # [15:03] <gsnedders> jgraham: But we don't use readthedocs for html5lib-tests, only html5lib-python.
  406. # [15:04] <hsivonen> annevk: They didn't change their default on Windows 8 in the general case.
  407. # [15:04] <hsivonen> annevk: Now I have to check if the baseline assumptions hold. Even IE6 doesn't inherit in the iframe case
  408. # [15:04] <gsnedders> jgraham: And under the assumption people are most likely to read the README on github, Mardown works best
  409. # [15:05] <jgraham> gsnedders: I don't think I disagreed with that
  410. # [15:05] <jgraham> I said rST iff readthedocs
  411. # [15:05] <annevk> hsivonen: wow, if that's not needed that'd be so much better
  412. # [15:05] <gsnedders> That wasn't clear.
  413. # [15:07] <hsivonen> annevk: I added a baseline and the baseline works as expected in IE6.
  414. # [15:07] <gsnedders> jgraham: Also, any idea when you can look at reviews, at those from me? Esp. of html5lib-tests?
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  418. # [15:15] <jgraham> gsnedders: Internet access is a bit problematic at the moment…
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  421. # [15:21] <foolip> annevk, ok to s/HTML5/HTML/ in web-apps-tracker?
  422. # [15:21] <gsnedders> jgraham: That wonderful British thing o taking a month to activate a phone line that already exists?
  423. # [15:21] <jgraham> gsnedders: If I told you you wouldn't believe me
  424. # [15:21] <gsnedders> I probably would, sadly.
  425. # [15:22] <annevk> foolip: "HTML Standard Tracker" then
  426. # [15:22] <foolip> annevk, ok
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  430. # [15:29] <foolip> it might amuse people to know that web-apps-tracker now has 22GB of diffs cached
  431. # [15:30] <foolip> annevk, are you going to TPAC? /me is
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  433. # [15:32] <annevk> foolip: yeah
  434. # [15:33] <annevk> foolip: haven't really sorted out travel plans yet
  435. # [15:33] <foolip> cool, see you there then
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  441. # [15:48] <hsivonen> Ah. I forgot to test the encoding that document.open()ed docs use for scripts and styles
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  448. # [16:11] <annevk> hsivonen: okay so I can make it say utf-8 in Windows 7
  449. # [16:11] <annevk> hsivonen: fresh start, load http://hsivonen.iki.fi/test/moz/charset-inheritance/iframe.htm directly, get windows-1252
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  451. # [16:12] <annevk> hsivonen: load http://hsivonen.iki.fi/test/moz/charset-inheritance/ click iframe.htm, get utf-8
  452. # [16:13] <annevk> hsivonen: baseline.htm seems to always give windows-1251
  453. # [16:15] <hsivonen> annevk: well. that's *weird*
  454. # [16:16] <annevk> hsivonen: one might call it a bug
  455. # [16:16] <annevk> hsivonen: maybe the same bullshit Gecko has
  456. # [16:16] <zewt> Hixie_: i've had to do that, it's tricky if i'm trying to actually mimic when click would normally happen though
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  460. # [16:39] <annevk> https://twitter.com/jdfitzgerald/status/376998570001715200 but what is 3?
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  467. # [17:38] <GPHemsley> annevk: (1) those who understand binary; (2) those who don't [understand binary]; (3) those who didn't expect this joke to be in base 3
  468. # [17:45] * jgraham grumbles about people that make tests render stuff when there is no need
  469. # [17:45] <Ms2ger> Hmm?
  470. # [17:46] <jgraham> I'm just watching a bunch of tests falsh by that have a big formatted table and stuff, but only actually need the DOM
  471. # [17:46] <jgraham> *flash
  472. # [17:47] <annevk> GPHemsley: you didn't get my joke
  473. # [17:47] <GPHemsley> annevk: Nope.
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  476. # [17:49] <Ms2ger> jgraham, oh, not the th.js output?
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  478. # [17:50] <jgraham> No
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  482. # [17:52] <Hixie_> sorry about down time
  483. # [17:52] <Hixie_> dunno what happened there
  484. # [17:52] <Hixie_> rebooted server though
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  495. # [18:09] <zcorpan> annevk: yeah it would be more funny if it said "base 10"
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  505. # [18:14] <annevk> It's kinda hard for base 3 to be part of the joke if the joke is actually in base 3, indeed.
  506. # [18:15] <SimonSapin> annevk: http://url.spec.whatwg.org#parse are the different parts of a parsed URL bytes or Unicode? And did I miss it in the spec?
  507. # [18:15] <annevk> SimonSapin: parser appends code points
  508. # [18:16] <annevk> SimonSapin: not entirely sure it's correct though
  509. # [18:16] <SimonSapin> code points that all happen to be in ASCII, right?
  510. # [18:16] <annevk> yeah, except fragment
  511. # [18:16] <annevk> fragment needs more research
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  514. # [18:18] <Hixie_> btw, if anyone cares, i agree with those saying that getElementById() has a useful purpose and isn't something that querySelector() should replace.
  515. # [18:18] <Hixie_> querySelector() has its purpose too, but it's a different beast entirely imho.
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  517. # [18:19] <Jude> Hello everyone, the link under Storage and files from platform.html5.org is broken
  518. # [18:19] <Jude> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/offline.html#offline
  519. # [18:19] <Jude> the above link is broken
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  521. # [18:19] <Hixie_> Jude: use http://whatwg.org/html#offline instead
  522. # [18:19] <Hixie_> (not sure why platform.html5.org is pointing to w3.org forks)
  523. # [18:20] <Jude> thanks for the info
  524. # [18:20] <dglazkov> good morning, Whatwg!
  525. # [18:20] <gsnedders> good morning, dglazkov!
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  527. # [18:24] <annevk> Hixie_: what's wrong with first of #blah as selection mechanism?
  528. # [18:25] <Hixie_> all the things people have already said in the list
  529. # [18:25] <Hixie_> you have to escape it, it's not as fast, etc
  530. # [18:25] <Hixie_> it's ugly in code
  531. # [18:25] <annevk> So where do you stop?
  532. # [18:26] <Hixie_> where we ra enow seems fine
  533. # [18:26] <Hixie_> are
  534. # [18:26] <jgraham> I don't really have a problem with the existing DOM methods
  535. # [18:26] <annevk> Lots of people do though with getElements*
  536. # [18:26] <annevk> And especially with the objects they reeturn
  537. # [18:26] <jgraham> I have never really understood why CSS Selectors are the One True API
  538. # [18:26] <Hixie_> (i mean, i wish the method name was pithier and easier to type, but that's water under the bridge)
  539. # [18:26] <annevk> getElementById() might be okay
  540. # [18:27] <Hixie_> it's not like we can ever actually remove these apis
  541. # [18:27] <annevk> jgraham: just turned out that way
  542. # [18:27] <Hixie_> so why bother pretending we might
  543. # [18:27] <jgraham> annevk: That's sort of just a jquery limitation though
  544. # [18:27] <zcorpan> consider <div style="outline-style:initial">. should div.style.cssText say 'outline-style: none;' or 'outline-style: initial;' ? (not asking what the spec says, but what should happen in your opinion)
  545. # [18:27] <annevk> Hixie_: I don't think we're pretending that, we're just not putting them in new places
  546. # [18:27] <jgraham> Their design favoured a single API to do all things
  547. # [18:28] <annevk> jgraham: as I said in the thread, I'm not opposed to new better APIs for specific purposes
  548. # [18:28] <Hixie_> zcorpan: style[x].cssTest should say what was specified, imho, so 'initial'
  549. # [18:28] <Hixie_> annevk: oh ok, the thread sounded like you were down on them in general
  550. # [18:29] <annevk> Hixie_: well I am, because of their return values, which is why I don't want to spread them :)
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  552. # [18:30] <Hixie_> getElementById()'s return value is fine
  553. # [18:30] <gsnedders> The problem with their return values doesn't go away unless we entirely get rid of them, which won't hpapen.
  554. # [18:31] <annevk> Hixie_: fair, torn on that one
  555. # [18:31] <annevk> gsnedders: all of that is true
  556. # [18:31] <annevk> gsnedders: and none of that was disputed
  557. # [18:32] <gsnedders> It means that return types are no reason to avoid proliferation
  558. # [18:32] <zcorpan> Hixie_: ok. i think that matches the spec (the keyword gets swapped for initial value at specified value time, but element.style doesn't do specified value but just expands shorthands and removes dups)
  559. # [18:32] <annevk> gsnedders: I disagree
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  561. # [18:36] <zcorpan> annevk: are the return values still bad if [ArrayClass] succeeds?
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  563. # [18:36] <annevk> zcorpan: [ArrayClass] is not on HTMLCollection
  564. # [18:36] <Ms2ger> zcorpan, also, named getter
  565. # [18:36] <annevk> zcorpan: iteration might improve matters a bit I suppose
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  567. # [18:37] <zcorpan> annevk: is there a reason it can't be on HTMLCollection?
  568. # [18:37] <annevk> zcorpan: names getters
  569. # [18:38] <annevk> named*
  570. # [18:38] <zcorpan> ok
  571. # [18:38] <annevk> iteration can be though, I think
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  573. # [18:43] <zcorpan> today i implemented http://dev.w3.org/csswg/cssom/#serialize-a-css-declaration-block in javascript to find my mistakes in my untested spec algorithm, but was surprised to find nothing but a typo. i was expecting infinite loops and bogus checks
  574. # [18:47] <zewt> nothing is scarier than complex code that works the first time
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  579. # [18:54] <zcorpan> works the first time is what i meant. :-) but now i found a bug, so maybe there are bogus checks
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  591. # [19:04] <annevk> TabAtkins: I'm not happy with the current design
  592. # [19:04] <annevk> TabAtkins: I'm happy to work out something better, but the current thing just feels inconsistent
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  594. # [19:06] <annevk> TabAtkins: see also http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20130909#l-316
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  663. # [21:26] <zcorpan> has anyone apart from annevk implemented the URL spec?
  664. # [21:26] <Ms2ger> Not afaik
  665. # [21:27] <annevk> zcorpan: I've had comments on tokenizer bits, and Node.js copied bits, but not straight up
  666. # [21:28] <zcorpan> ok. was wondering if there was an obvious candidate for reviewing https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/300
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  668. # [21:30] <zcorpan> annevk: have you run the tests in multiple browsers and pondered about cases where all or most fail a certain test?
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  670. # [21:30] <annevk> zcorpan: I've certainly pondered a fair bit over URLs
  671. # [21:31] <annevk> zcorpan: but I suspect others have different opinions on how I handled various cases
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  674. # [21:33] <zcorpan> yeah, i know you have pondered over URLs, but that wasn't exactly what i asked :-)
  675. # [21:34] <annevk> zcorpan: sorry, I pondered over the results too, I used the tests to fix the specification and such
  676. # [21:34] <zcorpan> ok, cool
  677. # [21:34] <annevk> could certainly use scrutiny though I suppose
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  679. # [21:36] <Ms2ger> zcorpan, so I'm happy to look at those tests some, but I have no opinion on what the results *should* be :)
  680. # [21:37] <zcorpan> Ms2ger: go ahead :-)
  681. # [21:38] <Ms2ger> But probably only when I get back from vacation
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  683. # [21:41] <zcorpan> annevk: "Parsing: <http://f:b/c> against <http://example.org/foo/bar> assert_equals: scheme expected ":" but got "http:"" is that right?
  684. # [21:42] <annevk> yeah, f:b would fail to parse
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  687. # [21:51] <zcorpan> annevk: does it fail to parse in http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3490#section-4.1 ?
  688. # [21:51] <annevk> zcorpan: no it fails because :b is not a numeric port
  689. # [21:52] <annevk> zcorpan: url.spec.whatwg.org/#port-schem
  690. # [21:52] <annevk> zcorpan: http://url.spec.whatwg.org/#port-state sorry
  691. # [21:52] <zcorpan> ah yeah i saw it now
  692. # [21:55] <zcorpan> seems to fail to resolve in gecko
  693. # [21:56] <zcorpan> annevk: but the error message for expected-fail-to-resolve could be more obvious. maybe also the source data file could have a special thing to indicate expected parse failure?
  694. # [21:57] <annevk> ":" seems clear
  695. # [21:57] <annevk> you can't get that any other way
  696. # [21:57] <annevk> well not clear, but yeah, we could build a message around that
  697. # [21:58] <annevk> I meant it's not needed in the source
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  699. # [22:01] <zcorpan> yeah it's not needed, but it would be less cryptic :-) but a comment in the source might do the trick
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  712. # [22:29] <zcorpan> hmm, though a dedicated field could be shown in the message. like http://f:b/ error:port-state
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  744. # [23:44] <Hixie_> we need a RESOLVED LOOKSLIKESPAM in bugzilla
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