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  45. # [02:51] <GPHemsley> Anyone know the status of css-content?
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  51. # [03:15] <Hixie> GPHemsley: i was just asking about that. status seems to me orphaned.
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  57. # [03:28] <zewt> ... a=Object(); b=Object(); c=Map(); c[a] = 1; c[b] = 2 <- c[a] == c[b] == c["[object Object]"] in FF. isn't the whole damned *point* of Map that it uses objects as keys and not strings?
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  83. # [04:40] * GPHemsley wonders if TabAtkins is looking for another spec to edit
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  87. # [04:51] <GPHemsley> oh, apparently that was also discussed recently
  88. # [04:51] <GPHemsley> in other news, the abbreviation for GitHub sometimes confuses me
  89. # [04:52] <GPHemsley> (good thing it's not GitPageHub or something)
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  91. # [05:04] <Domenic_> zewt: map doesn't change how [] works in JS. Use map.set and map.get
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  93. # [05:08] <zewt> that's worthless
  94. # [05:10] <zewt> introducing a new container class before designing a way to make that work the way every programmer is going to expect is nonsensical
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  98. # [05:24] <Domenic_> i think it would be a much worse wtf if all of a sudden [] no longer accessed properties of an object but instead some magical data store where objects could be keys
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  100. # [05:25] <Domenic_> map["constructor"] // wtf this is undefined because nobody set it? i just want the constructor!
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  102. # [05:36] <zewt> doesn't seem any stranger than any other custom getter/setter; it seems exceptionally strange (and confusing) to have a native map class that doesn't work with getter syntax
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  144. # [08:25] <Domenic_> properties are always strings; breaking that assumption would break so many programs
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  175. # [10:51] <SimonSapin> GPHemsley, Hixie: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-content/ has a big red obsoletion notice
  176. # [10:52] <SimonSapin> … which is not on http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-content/ for bad reasons
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  194. # [12:12] <crocket> ,school
  195. # [12:12] <crocket> 'school
  196. # [12:12] <crocket> `school
  197. # [12:12] <crocket> where was I/
  198. # [12:13] <Ms2ger> School, perhaps?
  199. # [12:14] <crocket> yes
  200. # [12:14] <crocket> I want to be presented with HTML/CSS learning materials.
  201. # [12:14] <crocket> I was given them with school command.
  202. # [12:14] <crocket> I don't remember which channel had that command.
  203. # [12:14] <crocket> ,help
  204. # [12:14] <crocket> 'help
  205. # [12:14] <crocket> `help
  206. # [12:14] <crocket> nothing
  207. # [12:14] <Ms2ger> Not this one, definitely
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  222. # [14:59] <GPHemsley> SimonSapin: Meaning, it should be on the TR version, too?
  223. # [14:59] <SimonSapin> yes
  224. # [15:00] <Ms2ger> glwt
  225. # [15:00] <SimonSapin> AFAIU nobody has bothered to go through W3C bureaucracy to change a publish document without making a new publication
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  285. # [19:57] <GPHemsley> is there a single list of pseduo-elements? (are there really not that many?)
  286. # [20:02] <SimonSapin> GPHemsley: there is four defined here: http://www.w3.org/TR/selectors/#pseudo-elements
  287. # [20:02] <SimonSapin> I believe they’re the only ones consistently implemented
  288. # [20:02] <SimonSapin> ::selection was removed from the spec
  289. # [20:03] <SimonSapin> a bunch of proposals add more, eg. http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-overflow/#fragment-pseudo-element
  290. # [20:03] <SimonSapin> and some implementations have a bunch of proprietary pseudo-elements for various things
  291. # [20:04] <SimonSapin> eg. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/Mozilla_Extensions#Pseudo-elements_and_pseudo-classes
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  293. # [20:10] <GPHemsley> hmm, thanks
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