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  8. # [00:14] <WeirdAl> streams API?
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  11. # [00:15] <WeirdAl> can someone give me a link?
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  17. # [00:36] <smaug____> WeirdAl: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/streams-api/raw-file/tip/preview.html
  18. # [00:37] <smaug____> (looks like that API could use events, not promises, and be simpler for the user that way)
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  24. # [00:45] <WeirdAl> ok, I need to read this spec :)
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  27. # [00:49] <Hixie_> anyone got IE10+ ?
  28. # [00:50] <Hixie_> what's the log say for http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?saved=2632 ?
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  30. # [00:57] <smaug____> 10 says BackCompat, document has no title
  31. # [00:57] <smaug____> (using http://www.browserstack.com)
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  35. # [01:02] <Hixie_> smaug____: sounds like it took the screenshot too early
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  37. # [01:02] <Hixie_> (it should say "log:" something)
  38. # [01:02] <Hixie_> (or just "log:")
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  40. # [01:03] <benschwarz> @Hixie_ :thumbsup: to your email
  41. # [01:03] <smaug____> let me retry
  42. # [01:03] * Hixie_ nods to benschwarz
  43. # [01:04] <smaug____> Hixie_: oh, it certainly doesn't load the test
  44. # [01:04] <Hixie_> nothing in the top textarea?
  45. # [01:05] <smaug____> 404
  46. # [01:05] <smaug____> odd
  47. # [01:05] <Hixie_> odd indeed
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  49. # [01:06] <smaug____> don't have an IE running so can't help after all, sorry
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  51. # [01:09] <Hixie_> no worries
  52. # [01:09] <Hixie_> thanks for trying!
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  65. # [01:33] <WeirdAl> Hixie:
  66. # [01:33] <WeirdAl> log: null
  67. # [01:33] <WeirdAl> rendering mode: CSS1Compat
  68. # [01:33] <WeirdAl> document has no title
  69. # [01:33] <WeirdAl> that's IE10
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  75. # [01:45] <Hixie_> WeirdAl: thanks!
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  136. # [03:09] <jwalden> someone, or someones, *really* don't like that whole don't-need-use-cases thing, judging by w3cmemes today
  137. # [03:09] <GPHemsley> Yeah, well, this *is* the WHATWG.
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  139. # [03:11] <jwalden> there's dislike, then there's *really* dislike :-)
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  142. # [03:11] <jwalden> I mean, use cases seem like a totally desirable thing to me
  143. # [03:11] <jwalden> but I wouldn't have gone on ten or so memes in a single day about it :-)
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  145. # [03:12] <darobin> jwalden: it's TPAC, you always get a lot of w3cmemes out of that
  146. # [03:13] <jwalden> ah, good point
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  149. # [03:14] <MikeSmith> 百花运动, as we say in China
  150. # [03:15] <MikeSmith> = "Let a hundred memes about use cases blossom"
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  165. # [03:37] <Domenic_> WeirdAl: actually https://github.com/whatwg/streams
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  183. # [04:08] <zewt> while the parched among us search for juice cases
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  190. # [04:24] <zcorpan_> Domenic_: you need a logo for streams
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  194. # [04:27] <Domenic_> zcorpan_: definitely. does annevk do all the cool logos himself?
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  198. # [04:30] <TabAtkins> heycam: Am I using [SameObject]/readonly/etc correct here? http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-images/#elementsources
  199. # [04:30] <TabAtkins> Domenic_: I think he does, yeah.
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  201. # [04:30] <TabAtkins> Do a line with circles, inside the whatwg circle.
  202. # [04:30] <TabAtkins> Like, beads on a string.
  203. # [04:30] <TabAtkins> Or anal beads. Same deal.
  204. # [04:31] <zewt> did i walk in on something here
  205. # [04:31] <TabAtkins> Yup.
  206. # [04:31] <TabAtkins> This is real.
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  208. # [04:31] <zewt> it's real something
  209. # [04:31] <zewt> unfortunately something is a dangling pointer, so it's any guess what it is
  210. # [04:32] * wilhelm_ blinks.
  211. # [04:33] * zewt divs.
  212. # [04:33] <zcorpan_> Domenic_: i made the quirks and xhr logos
  213. # [04:34] <zcorpan_> and dom
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  215. # [04:34] <Domenic_> zcorpan_: would love a logo if you have the time :)
  216. # [04:35] <zcorpan_> Domenic_: do you have an idea of what it should look like?
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  219. # [04:35] <Domenic_> zcorpan_: hmm, will think about it... maybe... pipes of some sort?
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  221. # [04:36] <zcorpan_> a smoking pipe?
  222. # [04:38] <annevk> could be a river
  223. # [04:39] <annevk> ooh
  224. # [04:39] <annevk> a Mario-like pipe with the ? sticking out
  225. # [04:39] <annevk> or with ? in a square box above
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  227. # [04:41] <zcorpan_> a smoking pipe kinda looks like a question mark
  228. # [04:41] <darobin> hop into IRC, read backlog, hear about anal beads and crack pipes
  229. # [04:41] <zcorpan_> annevk: i don't follow
  230. # [04:41] <darobin> just another day on #whatwg
  231. # [04:43] <annevk> zcorpan_: the pipe references piping streams, the question mark WHATWG, the whole logo Mario, because Mario is cool
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  234. # [04:53] <darobin> I've heard worse design briefs :)
  235. # [04:56] <zcorpan_> at least i found a public domain smoking pipe http://www.clipartlord.com/free-smoking-pipe-clip-art/
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  237. # [04:58] <zcorpan_> or http://openclipart.org/detail/170767/pipe-by-hatalar205-170767 appears to be the original
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  261. # [05:51] <jgraham> So, if I was being serious, I would say that the streams logo should represent water
  262. # [05:52] <jgraham> But if I'm not, it should self-evidently reference ghostbusters
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  274. # [06:07] <Domenic_> Heh I actually meant like water pipes... smoking pipes seems strange.
  275. # [06:07] <zewt> and if you can't decide, it should represent crossing the water streams
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  284. # [06:35] <annevk> <3 memes
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  297. # [06:52] <Domenic_> is w3cmemes run by whatwg peeps? seems like it most days
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  307. # [07:05] <darobin> Domenic_: it's not that simple :)
  308. # [07:06] <darobin> a lot of the people posting there are from W3C, it's a bit of everyone
  309. # [07:08] <darobin> Domenic_: and then for the really obscure stuff there's w3tmemes...
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  358. # [08:05] <annevk> So I emailed some feedback to ietf@ietf.org, but it hasn't arrived...
  359. # [08:05] <annevk> Or maybe I don't understand how the mailing list feedback works.
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  368. # [08:29] <MikeSmith> annevk: is that mailing list archived?
  369. # [08:29] <MikeSmith> or you're subscribed to it I guess
  370. # [08:29] <annevk> MikeSmith: yeah is, email has arrived apparently
  371. # [08:29] <MikeSmith> ok
  372. # [08:30] <annevk> MikeSmith: just not in https://www.ietf.org/ibin/c5i?mid=6&rid=48&gid=0&k1=933 yet
  373. # [08:30] <MikeSmith> (I asked because some of the IANA feedback list are not actually archived and you can't subscribed to them)
  374. # [08:30] <MikeSmith> annevk: ah
  375. # [08:30] <zcorpan_> jgraham: re websocket, what am i expected to do and why was i assigned an action without being present? :-P
  376. # [08:31] <MikeSmith> wow the layout of https://www.ietf.org/ibin/c5i?mid=6&rid=48&gid=0&k1=933
  377. # [08:31] <MikeSmith> I think it needs even more blue hyperlinks
  378. # [08:32] <MikeSmith> when the IETF does hyperinked HTML, it does hyperlinked HTML...
  379. # [08:32] <zcorpan_> .... ?? http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/webapps/20131112#l-698
  380. # [08:33] <MikeSmith> btw not to sound paranoid but I've been having problems with weird Quija-board like mouse behavior
  381. # [08:33] <MikeSmith> like something is wrong with my trackpad a la zcorpan_
  382. # [08:33] <zcorpan_> good thing you bought a mouse then
  383. # [08:34] <MikeSmith> well I am now thinking it feels like somebody is remotely connected to my machine
  384. # [08:34] <MikeSmith> trying to see what state secrets I've collected so far
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  387. # [08:36] <MikeSmith> it's weird because one second the mouse behavior gets all quicksand-y/Quija-board-like ghost in the machine, and the next second it's fine and normal again
  388. # [08:37] <MikeSmith> and using top(1) and Activity Monitor and siuch doesn't show any local process sucking up CPU or whatever
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  405. # [08:50] <zcorpan_> wow w3cmemes is on a roll about the use cases
  406. # [08:52] <darobin> zcorpan_: well, frankly, if glazou had wanted to become a w3cmemes superstar he could not have chosen a better way to do so
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  409. # [08:54] <jgraham> zcorpan_: Uh, I don't know. I think it might have been for review that you are doing anyway
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  416. # [09:00] <zcorpan_> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/706
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  418. # [09:05] <zcorpan_> Domenic_: http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/2634
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  429. # [09:16] <jgraham> zcorpan: Ah, right. I think richt might have accidentially volunteered you for that
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  431. # [09:16] <jgraham> I don't think it should have been made into an action without your agreement
  432. # [09:16] <jgraham> Although I also don't know if it matters
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  459. # [09:57] <jgraham> re: https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/showcomment?chain=813 does the spec actually say that you can't set .value to an invalid value? I can't see that it does.
  460. # [09:57] <jgraham> s/invalid/out of range/
  461. # [09:59] <annevk> Hixie_: you around?
  462. # [09:59] <annevk> Hixie_: I cannot find "relevant settings object" in HTML
  463. # [09:59] <annevk> Hixie_: should I use the "settings object" associated with the global?
  464. # [09:59] <annevk> Hixie_: or the entry settings object associated with the global?
  465. # [09:59] <annevk> Hixie_: would the latter work for both documents and workerS?
  466. # [10:03] <annevk> Hixie_: I guess I should just use the "script settings object" associated with the global
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  481. # [10:28] <zcorpan_> Ms2ger: see https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/424
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  484. # [10:33] <Ms2ger> zcorpan_, huh, wow
  485. # [10:33] <Ms2ger> I'll review later
  486. # [10:34] <annevk> Hixie_: commented on bug instead
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  496. # [10:51] <benschwarz> Hixie_: is there a server environment that we have access to that would build the developer spec?
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  521. # [11:24] <Ms2ger> Ohai
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  539. # [12:32] <hsivonen> annevk-cloud: the point of the replacement encoding is defeated if it can be overridden from the encoding menu
  540. # [12:32] <hsivonen> annevk-cloud: but by the time the menu stuff is processed, we haven't looked at <meta> yet
  541. # [12:33] <hsivonen> annevk-cloud: the menu is so sad
  542. # [12:34] <hsivonen> annevk-cloud: I could easily defend against the static case to disable the menu when a browsing context contains the replacement encoding
  543. # [12:34] <hsivonen> annevk-cloud: but that doesn't take into account subsequent iframe navigations
  544. # [12:34] <hsivonen> annevk-cloud: ideas?
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  597. # [14:56] <hsivonen> annevk-cloud: how come the Encoding Standard doesn't define some UCS2 labels for UTF-16BE?
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  600. # [15:07] <karlcow> for Anselm http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2013Nov/0006.html
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  614. # [15:30] <Ms2ger> Wait, this really happened: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/css/20131112#l-466
  615. # [15:33] <zewt> next up, MIGHT OCCASIONALLY
  616. # [15:33] <Lachy> WTF? Did they not realise that was an April Fools day RFC?
  617. # [15:34] <zewt> let's count ourselves lucky the onion doesn't write many spec-related articles
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  620. # [15:35] <Lachy> huh. They even referred to it as the "April 1 update to RFC2119" earlier in the discussion. They must have known.
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  626. # [15:42] <hsivonen> Ms2ger: maybe the non-normative security considerations for EME ought to use the terms from http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6919
  627. # [15:46] <jgraham> Lachy: They were very proud of it :)
  628. # [15:47] <Ms2ger> jgraham has been stalking the csswg meeting?
  629. # [15:47] <annevk-cloud> hsivonen: we cannot disable it whenever?
  630. # [15:48] <hsivonen> annevk-cloud: I think I've figured out how to make the charset menu not apply to replacement encoding resources
  631. # [15:48] <hsivonen> annevk-cloud: adds complexity to the parser
  632. # [15:48] <hsivonen> but hey, security is important
  633. # [15:48] <hsivonen> but not important enough to just get rid of the menu
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  636. # [15:52] <hsivonen> It's been a while since I've worked on this part of the parser. Need to figure out what I was thinking earlier. :-(
  637. # [15:52] <hsivonen> fortunately, this isn't Perl code
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  640. # [15:55] <hsivonen> annevk-cloud: have you investigated IE's support of Shift_JIS sequences in ISO-2022-JP yet?
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  655. # [16:15] <annevk-cloud> hsivonen: someone else has, see open bugs
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  658. # [16:16] <annevk-cloud> going to get some sleep now; let me know if you need something sorted
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  681. # [16:58] <Ms2ger> TabAtkins, did anybody say something about *external* css?
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  683. # [16:59] <TabAtkins> Ms2ger: I suppose not, but features that only work in internal CSS are weird.
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  697. # [17:53] <SimonSapin> Lachy: yes we knew, and despite being an April’s fools the description of "may wish to" was perfect for this
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  724. # [18:36] <dglazkov> good morning, Whatwg!
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  748. # [19:21] <WeirdAl> thanks Domenic_
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  787. # [20:36] <aklein> good morning, #whatwg, anyone about know much about the history of XML prefixes (and especially their reflection in DOM)?
  788. # [20:36] <gsnedders> aklein: As to where they come from originally?
  789. # [20:38] <aklein> gsnedders: rather, as to whether they were ever supposed to be settable via DOM apis
  790. # [20:38] <aklein> in particular, the Node.prefix IDL attribute
  791. # [20:39] <aklein> WebKit and Blink make it settable, but from what I can tell it's readonly in Firefox and IE 9
  792. # [20:40] <aklein> oh noes, it's settable in IE in an XML doc
  793. # [20:40] <aklein> for elements, anyway
  794. # [20:40] <gsnedders> DOM Level 2 says "NO_MODIFICATION_ALLOWED_ERR: Raised if this node is readonly."
  795. # [20:41] <aklein> it does talk about cases where it's allowed to be notified, though
  796. # [20:41] <aklein> modified, that is
  797. # [20:41] <aklein> thanks
  798. # [20:42] <aklein> DOM Level 2 is, I think, my answer
  799. # [20:42] <aklein> now I'm curious about IE 11
  800. # [20:42] <gsnedders> I'm not sure it really defined where the readonlyness of a node is defined
  801. # [20:43] <aklein> IIRC, there's only one kind of readonly node: EntityReference
  802. # [20:43] <aklein> but I think we removed that interface from both WebKit and Blink
  803. # [20:44] <gsnedders> Entities are, too
  804. # [20:44] <gsnedders> Entity nodes and all their decendents are
  805. # [20:44] <gsnedders> Per DOM Level 2.
  806. # [20:44] <gsnedders> You can try looking through MO archives, if you have access.
  807. # [20:45] <gsnedders> Who knows about the history of this!
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  809. # [20:46] <aklein> I'm now curious when Gecko decided to simplify all this. Perhaps they're simply implementing annevk's DOM spec
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  811. # [20:47] <Ms2ger> We never implemented a lot of it
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  817. # [20:53] <gsnedders> Nobody implemented large parts of the old DOM specs
  818. # [20:56] <Ms2ger> Right
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  840. # [21:45] <Hixie_> benschwarz: i can set you up an account on the whatwg.org server, sure
  841. # [21:45] <Hixie_> benschwarz: in fact, i think you already have one (since that's where developers.whatwg.org is hosted)
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  843. # [21:46] <Hixie_> as far as rfc6919 goes... when you find a definition in that rfc appropriate, the right solution isn't to use it, the right solution is to realise that you are writing a bad spec.
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  854. # [22:27] <Domenic_> aklein: it looks like http://dom.spec.whatwg.org/#element says it's readonly and only exists on Element, not Node.
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  866. # [22:54] <karlcow> marcosc: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-mobile/2013Nov/0000.html
  867. # [22:54] <Hixie_> heycam|away: ping https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23744
  868. # [22:55] <karlcow> marcosc: What are the data you want to extract?
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  880. # [23:13] <aklein> Domenic_: yeah, I like what modern DOM says, but I'm curious about the history here (not that I can imagine what code would be modifying prefix and expecting something interesting to happen)
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