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  1. # Session Start: Mon Dec 23 00:00:00 2013
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  9. # [00:58] <Jasper> Who thought of classList, and how can I give them the biggest high-five ever?
  10. # [00:58] <Jasper> I'm surprised it's not more well-documented or used.
  11. # [01:03] <gsnedders> jgraham: https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-python/pull/95 — opinion needed as to what to do for tests for the serializer
  12. # [01:20] <gsnedders> hsivonen, MikeSmith: https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-tests/issues/33
  13. # [01:21] <gsnedders> annevk: https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-tests/issues/31
  14. # [01:21] <annevk> gsnedders: I think jgraham included those
  15. # [01:23] <gsnedders> annevk: https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-tests/commit/a0e73c60dd788b18f07d9e2c412779c1759185df claims otherwise :)
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  17. # [01:33] <annevk> seven years ago
  18. # [01:39] <annevk> odinho: replied, basically I'm not sure what's up
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  21. # [01:59] <tantek> Fernandos - it's pointless trying to reason about semantic storage without a specific end user use-case.
  22. # [02:00] <tantek> so with that Fernandos, what's the problem you're trying to solve?
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  25. # [02:16] <gsnedders> annevk: Hey, I never claimed you'd have *recent* knowledge. :)
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  69. # [10:25] <Ms2ger> TIL: jgraham can't write separated (seperated), available (avaliable and avalible), or initialize (initalize)
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  75. # [10:46] <SimonSapin> Ms2ger: https://twitter.com/alex_gaynor/status/414814132718678016
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  77. # [10:51] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: jgraham put those in there to test you
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  85. # [11:29] <FireFly> och tja
  86. # [11:30] <FireFly> det var nân fest efter disputationen med kakor och sânt tror jag
  87. # [11:30] <FireFly> er
  88. # [11:30] <FireFly> Oops
  89. # [11:50] <Ms2ger> MikeSmith, clearly
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  103. # [13:45] <smola> annevk: hello, ping?
  104. # [13:45] <annevk> smola: waddup?
  105. # [13:46] <smola> annevk: int he URL spec, it seems that a URL formed only by a scheme ("http") is parsed to an empty URL ("")
  106. # [13:47] <smola> is that the expected behaviour? am I reading wrong?
  107. # [13:47] <annevk> smola: it would return failure I think
  108. # [13:47] <smola> in the parser, scheme state:
  109. # [13:47] <smola> Otherwise, if c is the EOF code point, terminate this algorithm.
  110. # [13:48] <smola> but no parse error, which is only given if there is a non-alphanum char
  111. # [13:48] <annevk> smola: that only happens if there's a state override
  112. # [13:48] <annevk> smola: otherwise you'd switch to no scheme state
  113. # [13:48] <smola> annevk: right :)
  114. # [13:49] <annevk> smola: and no scheme state would return in failure
  115. # [13:52] <smola> annevk: thanks
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  131. # [14:48] <Ms2ger> <small><font size="+2"><small><b>
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  134. # [15:06] <annevk-cloud> Ms2ger: nice poem
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  136. # [15:10] <gsnedders> SimonSapin: Hah. I saw Alex_Gaynor's tweet earlier. Didn't even notice the typo first time. >_>
  137. # [15:10] <darobin_> I wonder if anyone ever made an HTML poetry contest
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  139. # [15:11] * darobin in a previous life, placed in a Perl Poetry contest
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  143. # [15:17] <annevk-cloud> hah
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  150. # [15:39] <Ms2ger> Robin Berfon, eh
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  155. # [15:51] <darobin> Ms2ger: indeed, I kept "Berfon" as a nickname for a long time thereafter :)
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  158. # [16:06] <gsnedders> SimonSapin: https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-python/pull/133 — can you eyeball that?
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  160. # [16:09] <SimonSapin> gsnedders: looks good
  161. # [16:10] <SimonSapin> I don’t need #129 on PyPI yet
  162. # [16:11] <gsnedders> I'm probably gonna try and push a 0.9999 this year, likely with that
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  164. # [16:12] <gsnedders> SimonSapin: (But yeah, in principle, I can make releases whenever a downstream needs something in. Just say.)
  165. # [16:12] <SimonSapin> gsnedders: cool, thanks
  166. # [16:12] <SimonSapin> gsnedders: will it ever reach 1 ? :)
  167. # [16:13] <gsnedders> SimonSapin: https://github.com/html5lib/html5lib-python/issues?labels=api-breakage&milestone=1&page=1&state=open is what blocks
  168. # [16:14] <gsnedders> (Once those are all done, it will reach 1. And then probably just end up going along 1.0.z for a while.)
  169. # [16:14] <SimonSapin> I see, makes sense
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  171. # [16:15] <gsnedders> I think basically nothing else actually /blocks/ 1, though it'd be nice to be up-to-date with the spec by then.
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  173. # [16:17] <gsnedders> SimonSapin: On PyPI now.
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  175. # [16:20] <SimonSapin> It’s nice to close bugs by changing install_requires in setup.py :)
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  182. # [17:09] <gsnedders> SimonSapin: :)
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  191. # [17:44] <GPHemsley> Ms2ger, gsnedders: Remind me again the situation regarding maintaining a consistent attribute order in anolis/html5lib?
  192. # [17:44] <gsnedders> GPHemsley: dunno about anolis
  193. # [17:46] <GPHemsley> gsnedders: But there was some setting we'd have to adjust in html5lib to get ordered attributes, right?
  194. # [17:47] <gsnedders> GPHemsley: alphabeticalize_attributes on the serializer. Or something with a new almost like that.
  195. # [17:47] <Ms2ger> I stuffed that far in the back of my mind :/
  196. # [17:48] <GPHemsley> Ms2ger: Has the issue not been affecting anybody? I'd think it'd be making noisy diffs left and right...
  197. # [17:49] <Ms2ger> I haven't heard of it
  198. # [17:49] <GPHemsley> hmm
  199. # [17:49] <GPHemsley> well, I think it'd affect me, so I want to fix it
  200. # [17:58] <smola> here again with a URL parsing doubt: what's with chars like ^? it seems that the spec states that it should *not* be percent-encoded when it appears in path; but browsers do.
  201. # [18:04] <darobin> Merry Christmas everyone, see you all next year!
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  206. # [18:14] <SimonSapin> smola: file a bug, as a gift to annevk
  207. # [18:16] <smola> SimonSapin: ok, I'll do it. I wanted to ask first since every "bug" I found in the URL Spec ware actually not bugs ;)
  208. # [18:17] <SimonSapin> smola: I haven’t checked about this, but maybe annevk-cloud can confirm
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  213. # [18:39] <smola> annevk: ping again, ^^^, what's with unsafe characters like ^? it seems that the spec states they should not be percent-encoded, but browsers do encode them
  214. # [18:39] <annevk> all browsers?
  215. # [18:39] <smola> no, I'm not sure :p
  216. # [18:40] <smola> I checked Chrome and Firefox
  217. # [18:40] <smola> so IE does not encode them?
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  219. # [18:41] <annevk> might be a bug
  220. # [18:41] <annevk> I think I've been fairly conservative with what to escape
  221. # [18:41] <smola> ok, let me check other browsers and I'll file the bug with the detailed set of characters
  222. # [18:41] <annevk> ta
  223. # [18:41] <smola> just wanted to know if I didn't miss something obvious
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  240. # [19:44] <smola> annevk: bug filed; the behaviour is pretty unconsistent among browsers (and I haven't checked old IE)
  241. # [19:45] <smola> Safari 5 has a particularly incosistent behaviour (compared to itself :p)
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  245. # [20:11] <annevk> smola: thanks
  246. # [20:12] <annevk> smola: will likely look at in January somewhere
  247. # [20:16] <smola> annevk: great, thanks
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  271. # [21:15] <annevk> gavin: is the stats thing still kept up to date? the numbers look somewhat similar
  272. # [21:18] <gavin> it should be
  273. # [21:18] <gavin> oh, but not_gavin isn't here
  274. # [21:18] <gavin> I'll look into it
  275. # [21:19] <gavin_> oh, it's gavin_ here
  276. # [21:21] <gavin> annevk: it all looks like it's working
  277. # [21:22] <annevk> gavin: it doesn't have the topic and I believe number of lines has been static for a while
  278. # [21:22] <annevk> but I guess I should check again tomorrow to be sure
  279. # [21:24] <gavin> annevk: the topic seems to have been last set in 2012, which probably predates this particular stats instance
  280. # [21:24] <annevk> ait
  281. # [21:24] <gavin> (it only sees changes)
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