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  11. # [01:02] <rektide> so http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#ping "The ping attribute, if present, gives the URLs of the resources that are interested in being notified if the user follows the hyperlink. The value must be a set of space-separated tokens" yada yada yada
  12. # [01:03] <rektide> once again i call on this channel to confirm unto me someone is on this hackery and it will be better that concatting strings together
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  14. # [01:04] <rektide> give me DOMSettableTokenList or give me something else
  15. # [01:05] <gsnedders> Yeah, that seems silly in the DOM.
  16. # [01:05] <rektide> it's not silly. it's filthy dirty heathenism and it must see the brightest light.
  17. # [01:06] <gsnedders> I mean, I guess it's consistent with @rel, but I don't see what other justification there is for that.
  18. # [01:07] <rektide> DOMSettableUrlList
  19. # [01:07] <rektide> it is the ONLY sane answer
  20. # [01:07] <rektide> he has spoken to me, we just chatted
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  22. # [01:07] <rektide> all else will melt under this blinding light, this absolute pinacle Most Supreme form
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  67. # [05:54] <MikeSmit1> 'I expect that browsers will move to a simplified version of XML that doesn't support namespaces... we'll process XML content using the "foreign content" HTML parsing algorithm'
  68. # [05:55] <MikeSmit1> yes please
  69. # [05:55] <MikeSmit1> from abarth https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/zIg2KC7PyH0/Ym28fD2ZIAsJ
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  71. # [06:47] <MikeSmit1> rektide++
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  73. # [06:49] <MikeSmit1> "I have also noticed that IE has with version 10 deprecated use of XPath"
  74. # [06:49] <MikeSmit1> oh yeah?
  75. # [06:50] <MikeSmit1> per https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/zIg2KC7PyH0/njaoWjDEzXAJ
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  94. # [09:38] <SimonSapin> gsnedders: argh, I just noticed that my critic comment from last week was a "draft" that I still needed to "submit"
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  372. # [15:10] <annevk-cloud> Nice emails Mike on www-tag
  373. # [15:11] <annevk-cloud> Very fitting for this time of year too :)
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  376. # [15:23] <MikeSmit1> annevk-cloud: thanks
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  381. # [15:30] <MikeSmit1> annevk-cloud: I guess those'll actually be the la[Cst messages I send this year. Less than 30 minutes now before the bells ring here and we step outside into the cold for a bit for a visit for a first 2014 to the neighborhood shrine to get some good luck
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  389. # [15:57] <annevk-cloud> MikeSmit1: enjoy! 14 hours left here :)
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  392. # [16:07] <MikeSmith> friends, happy new year from the mountains of Nagano
  393. # [16:07] <MikeSmith> annevk-cloud: ^
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  396. # [16:09] <MikeSmith> here's to kicking the shit out of things on the Web together in 2014
  397. # [16:14] <wilhelm> I'll toast to that!
  398. # [16:16] <wilhelm> MikeSmith: I'll be back in Tokyo in April, by the way. :)
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  400. # [16:23] <MikeSmith> wilhelm: looking forward to seeing you. hopefully the cherry blossoms will be in bloom while you're here
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  404. # [16:33] <gsnedders> wilhelm: You there for all of April?
  405. # [16:33] * gsnedders was vaguely (very vaguely) wondering about appearing in Scandinavia in April, but may well just meet people around Gbg if he goes.
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  464. # [18:27] <MikeSmith> annevk-cloud: well we not really mountaineering. Just in the Matsumoto foothills. But planning to get up a little higher this week
  465. # [18:28] <MikeSmith> but it's nice right here now anyway
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  497. # [22:00] <rektide> oh god. please don't take XPath away
  498. # [22:00] <rektide> what am i supposed to query with instead?
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  508. # [23:13] <Jasper> rektide, CSS selectors?
  509. # [23:21] <rektide> Jasper: in many cases yes, for sure
  510. # [23:21] <rektide> i cannot help but be reviled- i don't understand who or why or what for- having structured data is/was being abandoned
  511. # [23:22] <rektide> it seems like one of those crusades where people say "we have to make this technology dumber! think of the dumb stupid developers, they hate this"
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  514. # [23:24] <rektide> there's so much tech zealotry, people get so fucking high and mighty jacking off on how much they help make things soo easy for such stupid dumb people that have sooo much of a hard time with the status quo. major ego flexing being "we are so smart we made exactly what the stupid people can finally use" as if that's really going to make a huge difference
  515. # [23:25] <rektide> but this is way upstream of the css selectors now being the only thing left that makes a lick of sense now that it's declared XML has to die
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