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  1. # Session Start: Sat Jan 11 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
  3. # [00:00] <jgraham> Looks like Presto follows the spec but Gecko and Chrome don't add the extra newline in the case that you would expect them to
  4. # [00:00] <jgraham> I have no idea about IE
  5. # [00:00] <gsnedders> Damn it, jgraham. Making Presto break the web by following specs.
  6. # [00:02] <Hixie> (is there any reason to still be testing presto? i thought it had joined MacIE and Netscape...)
  7. # [00:02] <jgraham> Well I have it
  8. # [00:02] <jgraham> Which isn't true of the others
  9. # [00:02] <Hixie> k, just checking if i was wrong to ignore it :-)
  10. # [00:02] <jgraham> and is still the latest Opera for Linux
  11. # [00:02] <jgraham> And various still-shipping devices
  12. # [00:03] <jgraham> But basically no
  13. # [00:03] <jgraham> (but it occasionally makes me feel good about my life when Opera passes tests)
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  15. # [00:04] <Ms2ger> jgraham, so do I need to click "prepare rebase"?
  16. # [00:04] <jgraham> (I mean not great, you understand, but slightly better than normal)
  17. # [00:04] <jgraham> Ms2ger: No
  18. # [00:04] <jgraham> For a tracking review that button should be hidden :)
  19. # [00:05] <jgraham> You do the rebase, then click "Rebase Review"
  20. # [00:05] * Ms2ger tries, crosses fingers
  21. # [00:05] <jgraham> Then, when you fetch the branch, if there are more commits than you expected, you specify the parent by hand rather than using the default
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  23. # [00:08] <Ms2ger> jgraham, that seemed to work, but now it's no longer tracking
  24. # [00:08] <jgraham> Ms2ger: Yup, you need to click enable tracking
  25. # [00:08] <jgraham> And then force refresh your browser for reasons that I don't understand
  26. # [00:08] <Ms2ger> Fascinating
  27. # [00:09] <Ms2ger> Okay, that's enough for tonight
  28. # [00:09] <Ms2ger> Thanks
  29. # [00:09] <jgraham> Well the force-refresh is only to update the display
  30. # [00:09] <jgraham> It reenables the tracking either way
  31. # [00:09] <gsnedders> So, what, the devices SDK seems to have just at CES officially moved to Chromium. So I guess there are going to be projects already underway, yet to ship, based on Presto.
  32. # [00:10] <Ms2ger> Yeah, I suspected as much
  33. # [00:10] <Ms2ger> "1 minutes ago"
  34. # [00:10] <jgraham> Hixie: So, if Chrome and Fx aren't following the spec here is it worth changing the spec?
  35. # [00:10] <jgraham> To just never add the extra newline
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  38. # [00:20] <odinho> gsnedders: this is true.
  39. # [00:20] <odinho> We are shipping new products based on presto still. :)
  40. # [00:20] <odinho> Or, devicessdk-ppl are, that is.
  41. # [00:20] <Hixie> jgraham: never adding the newline leads to data loss.
  42. # [00:21] <Hixie> jgraham: so that seems like a bad idea.
  43. # [00:21] <Hixie> jgraham: but if they won't change...
  44. # [00:21] <jgraham> Well they haven't in N years
  45. # [00:21] <gsnedders> odinho: Including stuff beyond what shipped in dsk 12.1x or not?
  46. # [00:22] <jgraham> gsnedders: It would be very surprising if the configuration of TVSDK was just like that of desktop
  47. # [00:22] <jgraham> at least it never has been in the past
  48. # [00:23] <gsnedders> jgraham: This is true. But they were always wary of being the first to ship anything… as everyone was, really. And in this case they would be — and the last.
  49. # [00:24] <odinho> gsnedders: I think so. Desktop was lagging faaar behind core, as I'm sure you remember. And I think they are at newer core integrations.
  50. # [00:24] <gsnedders> odinho: I'm well aware.
  51. # [00:24] <odinho> I know that the eternal bugs-branch is the main master now, and it seems to be getting patches still.
  52. # [00:25] <odinho> So I think it's just stabilizing like crazy. Probably the highest quality it has ever had :P No churn.
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  174. # [05:27] <MikeSmith> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24271 seems less than ideal
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  176. # [05:27] <MikeSmith> I mean the situation it describes, not the bug report itself
  177. # [05:28] <MikeSmith> "I do notbelieve that any two browsers support the same exact set of unicode charactersfor document.createElement."
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  270. # [09:33] <Ms2ger> jgraham, the file still exists because I didn't feel like doing anything else after rebasing yesterday :)
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  281. # [10:03] <Ms2ger> jgraham, looks like git submodule init && git submodule update --recursive doesn't checkout resources/webidl2
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  434. # [19:03] <Ms2ger> annevk, can I have a reply on https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/showcomment?chain=54 ?
  435. # [19:05] <annevk> Ms2ger: refresh
  436. # [19:05] <Ms2ger> Ok, thanks
  437. # [19:09] <Ms2ger> jgraham, should I squash?
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  441. # [19:21] <annevk> es-discuss discovers there's more notions of whitespace than String.prototype.trim
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  443. # [19:24] <Ms2ger> The horror
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  445. # [19:29] <gsnedders> Why is Bugzilla always down when I want to look at it?
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  465. # [21:41] <Ms2ger> assert_equals(appCache.IDLE, 0, "window.applicationCache.IDLE == 1");
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  480. # [22:30] <Ms2ger> That feeling when you think "this isn't a terribly good test…" and realize that, why, yes, you're looking at a Microsoft test
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