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  1. # Session Start: Sat Feb 15 00:00:00 2014
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  3. # [00:05] <jamesr__> mint some new words for en-hixie
  4. # [00:06] <Hixie> people complain when i do that :-(
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  6. # [00:13] <Hixie> the fact that my training in the scientific method has so much bearing on my job is freaking ludicrous
  7. # [00:13] * Hixie continuous trying to reverse engineer blur()
  8. # [00:13] <Hixie> continues, even
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  26. # [00:50] <SimonSapin> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6cKmvQCcAAApzT.png:large is my attempt at CSS box tree
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  29. # [00:53] <Hixie> dear kittens
  30. # [00:53] <Hixie> what is that
  31. # [00:54] <Hixie> what do the arrows represent? containership?
  32. # [00:54] <TabAtkins> All the various categories of "box" that CSS uses.
  33. # [00:54] <TabAtkins> I don't think the arrows represent any strict relationship.
  34. # [00:54] <TabAtkins> It's definitley *sometimes* containership
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  36. # [00:55] <Hixie> i could tell that some of the things on there were types of "box", yes :-P
  37. # [00:55] <cabanier> is there an XOR box in there?
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  39. # [00:55] <cabanier> no, there
  40. # [00:55] <Hixie> i was confused by the xor thing too
  41. # [00:55] <cabanier> are 2
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  46. # [01:05] <Hixie> what should happen when you have a dialog with two subdialogs, one of which is always focused, and you call .blur() on that focused subdialog?
  47. # [01:05] <Hixie> i'm leaning towards "do nothing".
  48. # [01:05] <Hixie> similarly, what should happen when you try to blur() the first control in a dialog?
  49. # [01:05] <Hixie> (if you blur() the second control, the first gets focus)
  50. # [01:05] <Hixie> (if you blur() a control not in a dialog, the viewport gets focus)
  51. # [01:06] <Hixie> (if you blur() a dialog that has sibling form controls, they get focus)
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  74. # [01:46] <Hixie> ok, i'm about 50% done.
  75. # [01:47] <Hixie> still got to do the APIs, and managing DOM mutations (like the currently focused control being removed or made inert dynamically)
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  83. # [02:07] <SimonSapin> Most non-annotated arrows represent "subclassing", eg. a block box is both block-level and a block container
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  86. # [02:09] <SimonSapin> the XORs don’t really make sense, but eh, I only drew that during my fifth reading of the spec
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  112. # [02:56] <SamB> did you guys HAVE to require that damned T between the date and the time?
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  114. # [02:58] <TabAtkins> It's useful to match iso8601 <http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-datetime>, so yes.
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  131. # [03:36] <Hixie> SamB: require where?
  132. # [03:36] * SamB just doesn't think that counts as human-readable
  133. # [03:37] * SamB greatly prefers a space between the date and the time
  134. # [03:37] <SamB> Hixie: in datetimes
  135. # [03:38] <Hixie> like in <time>?
  136. # [03:39] <SamB> well, essentially, http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/datatypes.html#form.data.datetime-local
  137. # [03:39] <Hixie> jesus wept, don't read the w3c version
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  139. # [03:39] <Hixie> wait that's not even the w3c spec
  140. # [03:40] <gavinc> SamB: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-microsyntaxes.html#local-dates-and-times or http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/infrastructure.html#valid-local-date-and-time-string is what your looking for
  141. # [03:40] <Hixie> SamB: i recommend reading an actual normative spec, ideally the whatwg one. :-)
  142. # [03:41] <Hixie> where in the whatwg one does it require a T for something author-written?
  143. # [03:41] <SamB> I did think that seemed odd
  144. # [03:42] <SamB> ah, okay, that looks a lot nicer now
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  157. # [04:14] <SamB> you know, I don't see a definition for Monday ;-P
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  322. # [16:48] <Ms2ger> http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/164131
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  324. # [16:50] <mathiasbynens> where did the “8.8 million lines” number come from? https://github.com/WebKit/webkit/commit/0e1e0ebf18aaac177366c797cfb1ae11011e55a1 lists 399 deletions
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  339. # [18:02] <Ms2ger> foolip, btw, if you ever feel like giving audio_004.htm and friends better names, go for it ;)
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  351. # [18:40] <SimonSapin> mathiasbynens: This, I guess http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/16/google-has-already-removed-8-8m-lines-of-webkit-code-from-blink/
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  353. # [18:45] <mathiasbynens> SimonSapin: hah, got it
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