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  82. # [01:50] * Topic is 'WHATWG: http://www.whatwg.org/ -- logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ & http://logbot.glob.com.au/ -- stats: http://gavinsharp.com/irc/whatwg.html -- Please leave your sense of logic at the door, thanks!'
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  113. # [02:29] <zewt> hard to take people seriously who say "HTML5.1" with a straight face
  114. # [02:29] <smaug____> that w3 bug?
  115. # [02:30] <zewt> yeah, heh
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  173. # [05:13] <cabanier> Hixie: path = new Path(paths [, fillRule ] ) ?
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  280. # [11:08] <qFox> is there any way for an element in the HEAD to be "promoted" to the BODY due to a document write inside of that (or any other) element? besides writing directly into the HEAD itself...
  281. # [11:09] <qFox> hmmm actually, I suppose writing any kind of non-HEAD tag inside it would do so. *writes more tests*
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  284. # [11:14] <qFox> otoh, only script style and title actually have content. script and style will just interpret any content semantically theirs, not html. title... dunno, cant force it to become body
  285. # [11:15] <qFox> and it seems title also accepts any content, even <, as literal for the title
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  293. # [11:28] <Ms2ger> Does anybody except Gecko support document.load?
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  295. # [11:34] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: I think not
  296. # [11:34] <MikeSmith> was just talking about that with darobin_ and deniak
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  298. # [11:35] <Ms2ger> I thought it was claimed that IE also supported it, but I haven't managed to make it show that
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  302. # [11:46] <darobin_> I'd try to confirm, but Win8 is being its usual piece of horseshit by forgetting which password it wants me to use
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  304. # [11:47] * MikeSmith can't be assed to fire up a VM
  305. # [11:51] <darobin> Ms2ger, MikeSmith: yeah, no XMLDocument.load in IE11
  306. # [11:52] <darobin> IE11's actually a nice browser, shame it only runs on such a horrendous excuse for an OS
  307. # [11:59] <MikeSmith> I actually like the Win8 UI
  308. # [11:59] <MikeSmith> quite a lot
  309. # [11:59] <MikeSmith> it just pretty much requires a touch screen
  310. # [12:00] <MikeSmith> and all windows laptops have touchscreens
  311. # [12:00] <MikeSmith> even the cheap ones
  312. # [12:01] <MikeSmith> I predict that some year wheneven apple gets around to shipping macbooks with touchscreens, it will be hailed as a great revolutionary innovation from apple
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  327. # [12:35] <Ms2ger> Filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=983090 to remove it from Gecko
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  349. # [13:54] <GPHemsley> Hmm... should &lte; really be parsed as "<e;"?
  350. # [13:54] * jorendorff is now known as jorendorff_away
  351. # [13:56] <GPHemsley> (nevermind that that's not the correct character reference for what I'm looking for)
  352. # [13:57] <jgraham> GPHemsley: Yes
  353. # [13:58] <GPHemsley> that's unfortunate
  354. # [13:58] <GPHemsley> unexpected, from a naïve perspective
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  364. # [14:16] <MikeSmith> fyi http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Recruitment/#web-dev
  365. # [14:17] <MikeSmith> W3C Japan is looking to hire a web developer with JavaScript/front-end skills to work on the W3C systems team
  366. # [14:17] <MikeSmith> at Keio SFC
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  368. # [14:31] <wilhelm_> MikeSmith: Which way does the position lean the most? Towards UX/HTML/CSS or backend development?
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  373. # [14:35] <MikeSmith> wilhelm_: UX/HTML/CSS
  374. # [14:35] <MikeSmith> the systems team has a lot of people with strong backend-dev skills already
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  377. # [14:36] <MikeSmith> so in part hoping to balance things out a bit more
  378. # [14:36] <wilhelm_> I have a designer-who-can-code candidate in mind, based in Tokyo.
  379. # [14:36] <MikeSmith> definitely point them my way
  380. # [14:36] <MikeSmith> I'd like to find somebody sooner rather than later
  381. # [14:37] <MikeSmith> at least get interviewed soon
  382. # [14:37] <wilhelm_> I'll prod her. (c:
  383. # [14:38] <MikeSmith> cool
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  389. # [14:54] <karlcow> MikeSmith: http://twitter.com/karlpro/status/444109571389288449
  390. # [14:55] <MikeSmith> ah cool
  391. # [14:55] <MikeSmith> thanks karlcow
  392. # [14:55] <MikeSmith> I'll tweet something in the morning as well
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  394. # [14:56] <MikeSmith> for now -> 銭湯
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  564. # [19:50] <Domenic_> Looking for an example site that triggers mixed content warnings...
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  571. # [19:55] <miketaylr> Domenic_: https://www.samsung.com/us/ is one
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  573. # [19:57] <Domenic_> miketaylr: perfect, thanks
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  588. # [20:26] <gsnedders> http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/2885 — anyone able to run that in IE11 (or just look and check that the expectation is correct?)
  589. # [20:29] <miketaylr> gsnedders: i get "FAIL (creation failed; event did not fire)" in my IE11 VM
  590. # [20:30] <gsnedders> Okay, can someone tell me what's correct? I don't see anything in any spec justifying it failing.
  591. # [20:30] <gsnedders> But if it fails the event should definitely fire
  592. # [20:30] <gsnedders> (Passes Firefox, fails Chrome IE11)
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  594. # [20:31] <gsnedders> Though I don't see anyway for "create a drawing buffer" to fail?
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  607. # [20:52] <gsnedders> wat. the IE Feedback allows .xml file uploads, but not .html?
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  609. # [20:55] <[bjoern]> XHTML renders all exploits innert.
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  675. # [22:34] <[bjoern]> https://twitter.com/annevk/status/444126322390863872 -- That would make public-webcrypto the first W3C discussion list I am subscribed to but cannot post to; it seems more likely that http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcrypto/ just says so on the packaging.
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  678. # [22:36] <arunranga> Hixie, would you prefer a switch from the origin of the invoking script to the origin of the resource (re: W3C Bug 24998)? It seems wrong to leave something that you think doesn't really work.
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  690. # [22:51] <Hixie> arunranga: how is the origin of the resource defined?
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  692. # [22:52] <arunranga> The origin of the Blob.
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  694. # [22:53] <arunranga> Which could be the origin of the script which coined it, but that seems no better than the origin of the script that called URL.create*
  695. # [22:53] <arunranga> Origin-less scripts shouldn't be used to tack origin
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  699. # [22:57] <Hixie> scripts don't have origins
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  701. # [22:58] <Hixie> arunranga: you probably mean the effective origin specified by the incumbent script settings object
  702. # [22:58] <Hixie> arunranga: at the time of the method call
  703. # [22:58] <Hixie> arunranga: anyway, i don't care what it is, so long as it is defined :-)
  704. # [22:58] <arunranga> Hixie, you're right. I'm probably using ad-hoc terminology. I mean what you just said :)
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  706. # [22:59] <arunranga> Hixie, so I'll update that. I'll scour the spec, but pointers helpful.
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  708. # [23:01] <Hixie> just do a search for "the effective script origin specified by the incumbent settings object"
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  710. # [23:01] <Hixie> in the html standard
  711. # [23:01] <Hixie> to see how it's done
  712. # [23:01] <Hixie> hth
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