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  1. # Session Start: Sun Apr 13 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
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  4. # [00:08] <MikeSmith> Hixie: fwiw the w3c bugzilla instance was upgrade to v4.4.2 yesterday and I think there are some new search features
  5. # [00:08] <MikeSmith> http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.4.2/release-notes.html#v44_feat
  6. # [00:08] <MikeSmith> which may or may not be useful to you
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  13. # [00:22] <Hixie> MikeSmith: cool, thanks for the heads-up
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  18. # [00:37] <annevk> MikeSmith: file URLs might need some changes
  19. # [00:37] <MikeSmith> annevk: OK
  20. # [00:37] <annevk> Also, why we need the URL standard: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241688
  21. # [00:37] <annevk> Kind of sad really...
  22. # [00:38] * MikeSmith looks
  23. # [00:41] <MikeSmith> gotta love backslashes
  24. # [00:42] <MikeSmith> annevk: btw I notice that the URL spec nowhere states what code points are allowed in domain labels
  25. # [00:43] <annevk> MikeSmith: yeah, I'm hoping UTS #46 will at some point provide guidance for that
  26. # [00:43] <MikeSmith> I assumed "|" wasn't allowed since it's not a URL code point but now I see the spec never says that only URL code points are allowed in domain labels
  27. # [00:43] <annevk> MikeSmith: not sure I successfully conveyed that to Mark though when I spoke to him
  28. # [00:43] <MikeSmith> OK
  29. # [00:43] <annevk> MikeSmith: he's fixing a bunch of other problems, might take another year to get syntax requirements sorted
  30. # [00:44] <annevk> MikeSmith: see http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr46/proposed.html for changes to ToASCII and ToUnicode that are being made, it's becoming much better
  31. # [00:44] * MikeSmith looks
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  33. # [00:50] <MikeSmith> annevk: OK is it worth me filing a bug against the URL spec about domain-label code points? As a reminder at least. Or should I not bother?
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  35. # [00:50] <MikeSmith> or maybe you have a note in there already about it that I missed
  36. # [00:50] <annevk> MikeSmith: yeah you could file a bug
  37. # [00:50] <MikeSmith> k
  38. # [00:50] <annevk> MikeSmith: not sure how to fix it though :-)
  39. # [00:52] <MikeSmith> annevk: yeah I know. But at least if we file a bug it'll save the next somebody from filing a duplicate if they set out to report the same issue
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  41. # [00:53] <MikeSmith> oh btw the w3c bugzilla now does the thing where it shows possible duplicates when you got to file a new bug
  42. # [00:53] <MikeSmith> based on the summary contents you type in
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  44. # [00:54] <MikeSmith> or not really duplicates but existing bugs with a similar summary
  45. # [00:54] <MikeSmith> you know what I mean
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  48. # [01:01] <annevk> nice
  49. # [01:02] <MikeSmith> annevk: maybe for the URL could at least give the list of characters that are definitely not allowed
  50. # [01:02] <MikeSmith> like "/" and "#" and "?"
  51. # [01:03] <MikeSmith> would it make any sense to do that?
  52. # [01:03] <annevk> I would prefer a more definitive definition
  53. # [01:03] <annevk> Do you need this intermediate hack for something?
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  55. # [01:04] <annevk> I'm planning on reworking the parser a bit by the way to be more functional. Also allowing better reuse of parts of the parser
  56. # [01:04] <MikeSmith> annevk: no, don't need it for anything specific
  57. # [01:05] <MikeSmith> annevk: so it's not blocking anyting
  58. # [01:05] <annevk> MikeSmith: okay, then I think we should try to find something better
  59. # [01:06] <MikeSmith> yeah
  60. # [01:06] <MikeSmith> OK I'll just file the bug about it for now as a reminder
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  620. # [17:28] <annevk> MikeSmith: btw, it seems likely we will get rid of concepts such as "domain label" and "domain label separator" in the URL specification
  621. # [17:29] <annevk> MikeSmith: UTS #46 calls the whole thing a "domain" and doesn't distinguish much between its individual components
  622. # [17:32] <MikeSmith> annevk: that sounds like an improvement. the domain-label thing doesn't match to normal parlance and just send kludgy
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  717. # [22:15] <annevk> Domenic_: we take pull requests
  718. # [22:16] <annevk> Domenic_: but I also have a vague plan of refactoring the specification a bit per https://github.com/SimonSapin/rust-url/blob/master/parser.rs
  719. # [22:16] <annevk> Domenic_: to see if that makes parsing more readable
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