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  1. # Session Start: Sun Apr 27 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
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  8. # [00:12] <IZh> The link to validators is broken.
  9. # [00:13] <IZh> validators.whatwg.org -> validator.whatwg.org?
  10. # [00:14] <Hixie> the multipage copy is out of date
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  12. # [00:14] <Hixie> for some reason anne's script isn't giving me a valid return value any more
  13. # [00:14] <Hixie> (anne does the multipage conversion)
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  15. # [00:15] <IZh> I see...
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  20. # [00:20] <IZh> http://html5.validator.nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fvalidator.whatwg.org%2F&submit=Check ;-)
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  23. # [00:22] <IZh> The main page of the validator is not valid.
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  173. # [11:19] <annevk> Hixie: hmm, can investigate tomorrow
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  307. # [19:03] <gsnedders> Philip` reached a point of eventually autogenerating code for the tree constructor as well as the tokenizer, right?
  308. # [19:04] <gsnedders> Because some of the stuff (around doctype tokens esp.) looks pretty hidious to parse the text.
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  312. # [19:10] <jgraham> Pretty sure that at some point Philip`'s code became self aware
  313. # [19:10] <jgraham> But the government keeps it secret
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  315. # [19:10] <jgraham> That's why you never hear from him these days
  316. # [19:11] <gsnedders> Well that would explain that.
  317. # [19:28] <Hixie> i had big plans to parse the spec and turn it into code when i started this parser i'm doing
  318. # [19:29] <Hixie> but then i ended up making it output things a bit different than the spec does
  319. # [19:29] <Hixie> so that went out of the window
  320. # [19:29] <Hixie> (e.g. the way i handle character tokens that are in the original input is to just return pointers to the original string to avoid string copies)
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  331. # [19:49] <gsnedders> Hixie: I may write such a thing over the summer
  332. # [19:50] <gsnedders> Hixie: Where I'm really not interesting in performance or memory usage, provided it's "usable".
  333. # [19:52] <Ms2ger> A natural language parser for en-US-x-hixie?
  334. # [19:54] <gsnedders> The parser's spec text is deliberately regular so you can quite easily parse it.
  335. # [19:54] <gsnedders> I'm not interested in general en-US-x-hixie
  336. # [19:54] <Hixie> heh
  337. # [19:55] <Hixie> gsnedders: yeah. my goal is to make a really fast one since my use case is "anolis is slow"
  338. # [19:55] <Hixie> (and that's with anolis using libxml2 sometimes, iirc)
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  340. # [19:56] <gsnedders> Essentially, I want to be able to: a) check html5lib tests for correctness v. current spec; b) generate more tests for paths not covered (so both tokenizer and tree constructor tests are complete); c) formal assertions of properties of the spec, as then merely the code to generate the model need be checked (instead of checking the whole model v. the spec).
  341. # [19:57] <gsnedders> Hixie: honestly, I don't think the parser is *that* slow. the problem is the serializer and the passes --- you want to be able to merge the passes to operate over fewer loops over the document.
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  347. # [20:07] <gsnedders> Really what you want is to use something with good loop fusion optimization
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  353. # [20:21] <IZh> Is there WHATWG's version of CSS standard? Or do you agree with W3C about it?
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  356. # [20:24] <Ms2ger> We don't have the manpower to deal with it
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  358. # [20:29] <IZh> Ms2ger: But do you have your own vision of CSS3 or W3C's version is suitable for you?
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The end :)