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  4. # [00:07] <caitp> you know what would be useful, if the MouseEvent interface could tell you what kind of "role" a click would play in a UI interaction
  5. # [00:08] <caitp> like, for a click event, if (event.role !== "navigate") dontPushState(); or something
  6. # [00:08] <SamB> ... what if it's actually going to be part of a double click or something?
  7. # [00:08] <caitp> well, that part of the story sucks too, but it would work a lot better than MouseEvent.button I think
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  10. # [00:22] <caitp> I guess presumably if you want to care about dblclick events you need to defer action, and cancel if you get a dblclick event. that isn't very good, but it seems better than worrying about button numbering, since different user agents and configurations could assign different interactions to different buttons
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  12. # [00:23] <SamB> caitp: indeed
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  34. # [02:00] <Hixie> so now that an AT user has commented on this controversial heading bug, basically agreeing with me that the problem may be minor, i wonder if faulkner is going to be insulted the way i was, accusing him of hating AT users...
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  123. # [10:15] <SteveF> hixie: correction - another AT user has commented
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  268. # [18:25] <Hixie> anyone have any idea what this is referring to? https://twitter.com/heydonworks/status/465526780011360256
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  287. # [19:37] <jgraham> Hixie: I guess you sorted it out now, but I suppose it's the thread starting at http://www.w3.org/mid/CAJFUXE8YvpaQY+paif+1Dv0kYjOBAekPMdGD=6ndBam+D3SB5Q@mail.gmail.com
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  289. # [19:39] <Hixie> last year??
  290. # [19:42] <jgraham> I don't see why not
  291. # [19:44] <Hixie> well, the thread started cos he said we had a "PR problem"
  292. # [19:45] <Hixie> if it's talking about what someone told him privately a year ago, it seems less serious that he made out
  293. # [19:49] <jgraham> Well I think the whole thing is a bit silly
  294. # [19:49] <jgraham> He seems to be annoyed that hsivonen didn't like his idea and be holding that against the whole WHATWG
  295. # [19:49] <Hixie> seems that way
  296. # [19:50] <jgraham> But OTOH, you're trying to have a serious discussion on twitter, so there's pretty much no hope of actually understanding each other
  297. # [19:53] <Hixie> tell me about it
  298. # [19:53] <Hixie> twitter is so annoying to communicate on
  299. # [19:53] <boogyman> s/twitter/<other social network>
  300. # [19:53] <zewt> it's designed on the premise that nothing that takes more than one breath to say is worth saying
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  302. # [19:53] <Hixie> boogyman: there's plenty of communication sites where it's way easier to have a serious discussion. e.g. reddit, g+
  303. # [19:53] <zewt> though it's pretty severely discriminatory--you can say a lot more on it in JP than western languages
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  305. # [19:58] <Philip`_> I'm glad the inventors of IRC were clever enough to realise a message could be automatically wrapped onto multiple lines, instead of forcing users to split their messages manually to fit on 80-column screens
  306. # [19:59] <zewt> actually, lots of clients don't do that and just truncate after the fact
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  308. # [20:01] <Philip`_> That's after like 512 characters, not 80
  309. # [20:01] <Philip`_> so it's usually fine as long as you're not writing essays
  310. # [20:01] <zewt> 80?
  311. # [20:02] <Ms2ger> Oh look, it's a Philip`_
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  318. # [20:30] <jgraham> I sort of have a theory that Twitter might be objectively the worst (popular) communication medium ever invented in terms of empathy / abiliy to change people.
  319. # [20:30] <jgraham> 's minds
  320. # [20:30] <jgraham> I don't have any objective way of testing that of course
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