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  196. # [12:37] <Ms2ger> SVG2 points at http://www.w3.org/TR/Window/#embeddingelt
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  260. # [18:10] <annevk> I wish there was an @antimattursource account
  261. # [18:12] <Ms2ger> Nice explanation of script/async/defer: http://peter.sh/experiments/asynchronous-and-deferred-javascript-execution-explained/
  262. # [18:12] <annevk> http://about.monash/#tlds lol
  263. # [18:12] <annevk> Ms2ger: yeah, filed a bug on HTML to include it just now
  264. # [18:12] * Ms2ger approves
  265. # [18:12] <Ms2ger> Btw
  266. # [18:12] <annevk> Ms2ger: provided beverloo_ approves
  267. # [18:13] <Ms2ger> It seems like data url parsing still needs work?
  268. # [18:13] <annevk> Ms2ger: you think?
  269. # [18:13] <annevk> ;-)
  270. # [18:13] <annevk> First thing tomorrow is data URL security boundaries
  271. # [18:14] <Ms2ger> Mm
  272. # [18:14] <Ms2ger> Rather you than me :)
  273. # [18:14] <annevk> Need to get the exchange with sicking into specifications and Gecko
  274. # [18:14] <annevk> As for data URL parsing, I still have hopes someone else will pick that up
  275. # [18:15] <Ms2ger> There's http://simonsapin.github.io/data-urls/
  276. # [18:16] * Ms2ger would like to have another 24 hours a day for spec work
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  296. # [19:14] <SimonSapin> "For users, it will mean greater security, a better user experience, more useful searches, and improved navigation." New TLDs are magical, it seems.
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  302. # [19:36] <Hixie> does html5lib support <template>? and if so, does it do anything special with its contents, or does it just put the template contents as children of the <template> itself?
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  305. # [19:41] <Ms2ger> I'd be somewhat surprised
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  362. # [22:27] <zewt> ... why do people keep using "```js" forum/tracker markup on mailing lists all of a sudden? are people posting from a broken forum/list gateway or something? heh
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  364. # [22:30] <caitp-> because we know that you're probably familiar with gfm and understand how you're supposed to understand it
  365. # [22:31] <zewt> it's markup, you don't write markup with humans as the audience (and we all know how to interpret javascript in an email)
  366. # [22:32] <caitp-> inboxapp.co might prettify gfm codeblocks in emails on its own some day
  367. # [22:33] <zewt> i'd sure hope not, it'd break "email interop" with the rest of the universe
  368. # [22:33] <caitp-> email interop has already broken
  369. # [22:33] <zewt> "the system isn't perfect, therefore it's okay to do anything" no
  370. # [22:35] <caitp-> nobody is working to improve email really, there aren't very many competing email clients, so people can pretty much do whatever they want with it
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  372. # [22:40] <zewt> "can" and "should" are very different things
  373. # [22:44] <caitp> i'm sure the folks reading email on their 5250 terminals might be less happy about it, but for people who aren't living in the 70s it's great
  374. # [22:44] <caitp> nice readable code, beautiful
  375. # [22:44] <zewt> ...
  376. # [22:45] <zewt> itym 'folks using an email client that isn't "inboxapp.co"'
  377. # [22:45] <caitp> i'm sure there's a chrome extension to make gmail render gfm, and if there isn't it would be trivial to write
  378. # [22:45] <zewt> uhh
  379. # [22:45] <caitp> or a thunderbird plugin
  380. # [22:46] <zewt> writing emails with the expectation that everyone else is going to install a browser plugin for them to be formatted correctly would be pretty absurd
  381. # [22:47] <caitp> even without browser plugins, it's still designating that a block of text is code, and designating the language the code is in
  382. # [22:47] <caitp> so I think it's still pretty easy to reason about
  383. # [22:53] <SamB> as long as it looks okay in gnus out-of-the-box
  384. # [22:57] * jgraham wonders what gfm is
  385. # [22:57] <caitp> github's extensions to markdown
  386. # [22:58] <caitp> the f is for "flavoured"
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  388. # [22:58] <caitp> the g and m should be self explanatory
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  390. # [22:59] <jgraham> Oh right. Their random additions to a poorly-specified markup format. I'm not sure that I would want that as the basis for anything.
  391. # [23:00] <caitp> hey, you could always form a w3c community working group for it ;)
  392. # [23:00] <caitp> for all that would accomplish --- realistically, it's there, and it's ubiquitous, so people use it
  393. # [23:01] <jgraham> It's pretty absurd that you are calling it "ubiquitous" just after you had to explain to me what it was
  394. # [23:01] <caitp> ubiquity doesn't mean everyone has heard of it
  395. # [23:02] <caitp> but it's used heavily on the most popular public and private repository host, and has found its way into mailing lists, jira, and bugzilla too
  396. # [23:02] <caitp> so, it's all over the place
  397. # [23:06] <jgraham> I can't see any evidence that bugzilla or Jira have GitHub extensions to markdown.
  398. # [23:08] <caitp> I know bugzilla won't render GFM, but GFM is used on bugzilla now and again
  399. # [23:08] <caitp> atlassian products support variations on it
  400. # [23:08] <caitp> etc
  401. # [23:11] <jgraham> That seems like a substantially different claim
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