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  1. # Session Start: Fri Jun 20 21:04:16 2014
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  4. # [21:04] * Topic is 'http://www.whatwg.org/ — logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ & http://logbot.glob.com.au/ — stats: http://gavinsharp.com/irc/whatwg.html — Please leave your sense of logic at the door, thanks!'
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  15. # [21:49] <caitp> so, I'm curious --- what is the new Request object referenced in the fetch spec supposed to offer over existing XHR?
  16. # [21:50] <TabAtkins> A sane, simple API.
  17. # [21:50] <TabAtkins> Versus the several lines of crap you have to remember and type out with every XHR today.
  18. # [21:51] <caitp> well that would be lovely, but we'll see
  19. # [21:51] <caitp> it doesn't look like anyone has begun implementing it yet though
  20. # [21:52] <TabAtkins> No, it's quite new.
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  25. # [22:01] <caitp> yeah, I need to take another look at it---but really the question here is like, taking jQuery for example, if they're already abstracting XHR, do they gain anything from eventually also abstracting Request
  26. # [22:02] <caitp> I guess nobody knows for sure until implementations exist
  27. # [22:03] <Domenic> it also seems like it will expose more potential capabilities
  28. # [22:03] <Domenic> especially once it becomes streaming
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  31. # [22:07] <TabAtkins> caitp: "Will the libraries switch to it" isn't really a useful argument; libraries can paper over *lots* of things. Removing the necessity for libraries to exist for common pieces of the platform to be usable is important for the evolution of the platform.
  32. # [22:07] <TabAtkins> But also, yes, we'll be adding fun new things to Request over time.
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  34. # [22:08] <caitp> well, I work on some of these libraries, so the question becomes "should we worry about adding support for Request once it's available --- what's the testability story like, etc"
  35. # [22:17] <Domenic> well Angular is just going to overwrite everything to make it "more testable" anyway, so I'm not sure why you're worried ;)
  36. # [22:17] <Domenic> TabAtkins: anything we can do about moving Status before TOC? I don't care that much, but would be nice.
  37. # [22:18] <TabAtkins> Domenic: Yes, planning on doing something about that, so you can supply a *local* version of some boilerplate and have it sub in instead.
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  40. # [22:18] <Domenic> TabAtkins: Awesome! Will merge for now then.
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  42. # [22:20] <caitp> it's not clear that we actually can "overwrite everything" when it comes to native code which uses native promises, since they might not respect our mocks :)
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