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  70. # [02:30] <TabAtkins> Hmm, haven't seen zcorpan in a bit. Vacation?
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  76. # [02:44] <MikeSmith> TabAtkins: yeah
  77. # [02:45] <MikeSmith> he'll be away for another couple of weeks at least I think
  78. # [02:45] <TabAtkins> Ah, kk. Hrm, wanna get a CSSOM change in relatively quickly, for Firefox's sake.
  79. # [02:45] <TabAtkins> I guess we'll have to CfC without him and I'll make the edit.
  80. # [02:45] <MikeSmith> wasn't SimonSapin working on CSSOM too?
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  85. # [02:57] <TabAtkins> Don't think so.
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  95. # [03:23] <MikeSmith> TabAtkins: zcorpan's be showing up still on irc every few days or so for a short time, so maybe if you ping him he'll follow up
  96. # [03:24] <TabAtkins> kk
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  98. # [03:24] <TabAtkins> zcorpan: Got two cssom-view issues in www-style regarding scrollIntoView that Chrome and FF are in favor of changing. Please ping the list with yay/nay, and we'll run a CfC for the rest of the WG. I can take care of editing if you want, or leave it to you.
  99. # [03:25] <MikeSmith> TabAtkins: if you do, botie, inform zcorpan with that over on #respimg, he'll get a notification with that message next time he joins the channel
  100. # [03:26] <TabAtkins> Yeah, saw that. Thanks.
  101. # [03:26] <MikeSmith> cheers
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  124. # [04:50] <Streusel> is the dublin core meta correct? currently it uses property="dc.title" while the dublin core site notes that it should be name="dc.title", however this is from back in 2001.
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  130. # [04:58] * SamB hasn't heard of <META PROPERTY> before ...
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  134. # [05:13] <Streusel> hmm.. :|
  135. # [05:13] <Streusel> well facebook uses it for their opengraph
  136. # [05:17] <Streusel> All I know is http://html5.validator.nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fupaste.me returns an error on the <meta name="dc.title" content=""> while none on <meta property="dc.language" content="">
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  176. # [07:40] <MikeSmith> Streusel: it seems dc.title isn't a registered meta@name value, but dcterms.title is
  177. # [07:40] <MikeSmith> http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/MetaExtensions
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  179. # [07:40] <Streusel> let me test it with dc.language then
  180. # [07:41] <MikeSmith> dc.language is registered
  181. # [07:41] <MikeSmith> but dcterms.language is also
  182. # [07:41] <MikeSmith> I have no idea which is the one you're really supposed to use
  183. # [07:42] <Streusel> >-<
  184. # [07:42] <MikeSmith> but there are no dc.* namespaced values registered other than dc.language and dc.date.issued
  185. # [07:42] <Streusel> description should be there
  186. # [07:42] <Streusel> http://dublincore.org/documents/dc-html/
  187. # [07:43] <MikeSmith> shrug
  188. # [07:43] <Streusel> that one has dc.title
  189. # [07:43] <MikeSmith> myself from the dublincore docs, I can't make heads or tails of what the usage rules are
  190. # [07:44] <Streusel> http://dublincore.org/documents/2001/04/12/usageguide/simple-html.shtml
  191. # [07:44] <Streusel> but this was issued 2001-04-12
  192. # [07:44] <MikeSmith> http://dublincore.org/documents/dc-html/ is the thing that all the registered values cite
  193. # [07:44] <MikeSmith> yeah http://dublincore.org/documents/dc-html/ is 2008
  194. # [07:45] <Streusel> weird to omit items..
  195. # [07:46] <MikeSmith> hmm <meta name="DC.title" content="Services to Government" > etc. are used throughout that http://dublincore.org/documents/dc-html/ document
  196. # [07:46] <MikeSmith> do a find-in-page for "name="
  197. # [07:47] <Streusel> yeah
  198. # [07:48] <Streusel> it's as if they had no other dc.* value
  199. # [07:49] <Streusel> so with the overwhelming usage of dc.title, what's the chance of it being added to the list of metaextensions?
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  201. # [07:52] <MikeSmith> Streusel: if you add it yourself to http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/MetaExtensions there's a 100% chance it will be supported
  202. # [07:52] <Streusel> hehe
  203. # [07:52] <MikeSmith> if you give me your e-mail address I can set up a wiki account for you
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  235. # [09:49] <Ms2ger> Ouch
  236. # [09:50] <Ms2ger> I just hit "Too slow? Try reading the multipage copy of the spec instead: http://whatwg.org/html" on the multipage copy
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  384. # [14:42] <gsnedders> is there any sane way to get position: sticky to interact with flexbox sanely?
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  429. # [16:46] <TabAtkins> gsnedders: position:sticky is a magic relpos, which should work fine with flexbox.
  430. # [16:46] <TabAtkins> Operative word being "should".
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  439. # [17:17] <gsnedders> TabAtkins: :)
  440. # [17:19] <gsnedders> I'm pretty sure my problem is the sidebar is the height of the flex container (or whatever the term is! :P) and not the height of its contents, hence it's being sticky wrt its size.
  441. # [17:20] <TabAtkins> Without seeing any of your markup, I have no idea, but you can fix that by setting align-self to "flex-start" on the sidebar.
  442. # [17:21] <TabAtkins> It defaults to "stretch".
  443. # [17:22] <gsnedders> Can I complain about not understanding flexbox despite having tried to read plenty about it, inc. the spec?
  444. # [17:22] <TabAtkins> Possibly.
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  446. # [17:23] <TabAtkins> But I'm getting ready for work, so I won't read your complaints for a bit.
  447. # [17:23] * gsnedders complains
  448. # [17:23] <gsnedders> I'll try and put together some email of stuff I don't understand and could do with some more intro in the spec
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  477. # [18:27] <gsnedders> dev tools really don't make it clear why flexbox stuff ends up as it does
  478. # [18:27] <TabAtkins> gsnedders: Thanks, happy to add more explanatory stuff.
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  499. # [19:08] <Hixie> Ms2ger: lol
  500. # [19:08] <Hixie> Ms2ger: can you file a bug? i must have forgotten to set class=split or something
  501. # [19:09] <Ms2ger> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26435
  502. # [19:10] <Hixie> thanks
  503. # [19:12] <Ms2ger> Np
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  579. # [22:12] <Hixie> anyone know anything about moznofilter=""? in particular, how much traction it's getting? https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9785
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  583. # [22:30] <MikeSmith> Hixie: Yesterday I created a wiki account for Streusel and the system claims it e-mailed him a password, but he's still not actually received any message
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  589. # [22:35] <Hixie> MikeSmith: send it again, i guess?
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  592. # [22:37] <MikeSmith> Hixie: the system won't let me
  593. # [22:37] <Hixie> odd
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  595. # [22:38] <Hixie> what happens if he uses the lost password flow?
  596. # [22:38] <MikeSmith> it says is already sent one within the last 24 hours, so I guess I could re-try laster today after it times out
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  598. # [22:38] <MikeSmith> Hixie: what I just described above
  599. # [22:38] <Hixie> ah
  600. # [22:38] <Hixie> well
  601. # [22:38] <Hixie> wait 24 hours? :-)
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  604. # [22:40] <MikeSmith> yeah
  605. # [22:40] <Hixie> or find GPHemsley...
  606. # [22:40] <Hixie> or whoever is maintaining the wiki these days
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  620. # [22:51] <Streusel> Hixie: I tried the "lost password" method already ~2 hours after the initial creation.
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