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  254. # [07:20] <MikeSmith> arpitab__: yeah, just let me know you e-mail address and what user name you want. either here or DM if you prefer
  255. # [07:20] <arpitab__> Tx MikeSmith! shall DM
  256. # [07:21] <MikeSmith> hai
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  373. # [10:09] <annevk> How would https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26517 even work in the async/await world?
  374. # [10:10] <annevk> try { await thing() } catch(...) { ... }
  375. # [10:10] <annevk> What would it mean for thing() to throw synchronously?
  376. # [10:11] <annevk> Domenic: happy to change XMLHttpRequest's serialization
  377. # [10:11] <annevk> Domenic: sort of hoping Ms2ger can sort out what that should be though
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  422. # [11:29] <JakeA> annevk: In an async/await world that example would behave the same regardless of sync/async throw
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  444. # [12:27] <annevk> JakeA: so how do you do things like Promise.all() in async/await? let x = await y(); let z = await a(); if(x && z) ...?
  445. # [12:28] <JakeA> annevk: var results = await Promise.all(a(), b(), c());
  446. # [12:28] <JakeA> annevk: var results = await Promise.all([a(), b(), c()]); even
  447. # [12:29] <annevk> Hmm, so promises are not completely abstracted out
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  449. # [12:29] <JakeA> Nah, not if you want a() b() and c() in parallel
  450. # [12:30] <JakeA> Well, you could do:
  451. # [12:31] <JakeA> let x = y(); let z = a(); x = await x; z = await z;
  452. # [12:34] <JakeA> annevk: I'm doing parallel without Promise.all in http://jakearchibald.com/2014/es7-async-functions/#this-time-with-es7-async-functions
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  457. # [12:41] <benjamingr> I never got why you'd need/want the word 'function' after the word 'async' in the spec.
  458. # [12:41] <benjamingr> I mean, what's bad with `async loadStory(){`? Not that it matters too much, I'm quite content with generators.
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  470. # [13:23] * smaug____ cries http://drafts.csswg.org/css-scoping/#selectordef-deep
  471. # [13:24] <smaug____> all the shadow dom stuff is getting so wrong
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  474. # [13:30] <annevk> >>> lol
  475. # [13:30] <annevk> but clever
  476. # [13:31] <smaug____> since we end up exposing shadow dom to the outside world in all sorts of ways, couldn't we like just remove the 'shadow' part?
  477. # [13:31] <smaug____> grr
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  479. # [13:32] * smaug____ is getting more and more the feeling XBL2 would have been better approach
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  490. # [13:57] <annevk> smaug____: yeah, it's not really a shadow DOM at this point
  491. # [13:57] <annevk> smaug____: it's more some kind of special descendants
  492. # [13:58] <annevk> smaug____: node tree -> composed node tree
  493. # [14:01] <smaug____> scoped tree
  494. # [14:02] <MikeSmith> well it's not it currently means "invisible DOM". but it's not really a shadow either
  495. # [14:02] <smaug____> hmm, no, usually one can't get easily from global scope to the inner scopes, for the sake of encapsulation
  496. # [14:02] <MikeSmith> regardless it's still a better name than ServiceWorker
  497. # [14:03] <smaug____> composed is perhaps fine. It doesn't hint anything about encapsulation
  498. # [14:03] <jgraham> I thought it was "shadow" as in "shadow of it's former self"
  499. # [14:03] <MikeSmith> isn't it always a documentFragment
  500. # [14:04] <jgraham> s/'//
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  502. # [14:04] <MikeSmith> time to revivi "island"
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  507. # [14:06] <zcorpan> <xml>
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  509. # [14:07] <zcorpan> memories
  510. # [14:09] * karlcow starts to imagine the shadow of the invisible man and wonders how it is supposed to work
  511. # [14:10] <karlcow> or is it just light gravitationally bended around the object.
  512. # [14:10] <karlcow> hmm
  513. # [14:10] <karlcow> gravitational lens DOM
  514. # [14:11] <karlcow> maybe just the blackhole DOM. Not visible but you know it's here through its effects on the surrounding
  515. # [14:11] <karlcow> so much emotion for today.
  516. # [14:12] * jgraham calls dibs on writing the caustic spec for gravitationally lensed DOMs
  517. # [14:13] <Ms2ger> If only we had someone with a PhD in astrophysics...
  518. # [14:13] * jgraham points at karlcow
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  541. # [14:59] <annevk> Domenic: so now http://heycam.github.io/webidl/#initializing-objects-from-iterables exists, what is put in IDL?
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  616. # [17:26] <Domenic> annevk: I dunno, not terribly important to me. Maybe Constructor(AddMapElementsUsing("set") iterable) or something?
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  618. # [17:27] <annevk> Domenic: wfm
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  628. # [17:37] <wilhelm> Do any browser vendors have data on how many users have changed the default font size and/or zoom level in their browser?
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  666. # [18:41] <Hixie> zcorpan: I never understood that bug anyway, so...
  667. # [18:41] <Hixie> annevk: what's the difference between Foo[] and sequence<Foo> again??
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  669. # [18:42] <annevk> Hixie: the former cannot be used as method argument
  670. # [18:42] <annevk> Hixie: and should generally be avoided as nobody really wants it
  671. # [18:42] <Hixie> what are they, concretely?
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  674. # [18:43] <Hixie> is Foo[] an actual Array?
  675. # [18:43] <Hixie> or a read-only array?
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  677. # [18:43] <Hixie> or some other thing?
  678. # [18:43] <TabAtkins> sequence<Foo> as an argument means the object passed in will be iterated over and copied into a fresh array for use by the algorithm defining the function. As a return value it's an Array.
  679. # [18:44] <TabAtkins> I dunno what Foo[] does.
  680. # [18:44] <Hixie> so, if i have a FooEvent object and it has an attribute of type Foo[], do i not want the initFooEvent() method to take a Foo[] so the attribute can just be set to the same object as it was given?
  681. # [18:44] <TabAtkins> As soon as I was assured of which option gave me a normal Array, I immediately forgot about everything else.
  682. # [18:46] <Hixie> wow, yeah, Foo[] is not an Array but sequence<Foo> is
  683. # [18:46] <Hixie> that's confusing
  684. # [18:46] <tantek> I pity the Foo[]
  685. # [18:47] <Hixie> so presumably attributes can't be sequence<Foo>, right?
  686. # [18:47] <TabAtkins> smaug____: The point of shadow dom was never to 100% hide it from the outside world. (We need that ability eventually, to explain some built-ins, but not for normal stuff.) It's to hide stuff from *unintentional* access, which is the main problem with today's frameworks.
  687. # [18:47] <Hixie> since they'd have to return a new value each time
  688. # [18:47] <Hixie> TabAtkins: i think opinions vary on that, fwiw
  689. # [18:48] <TabAtkins> Hixie: I think you can do [SameObject] for it? But honestly, I have no fucking clue, becasue the entire array part of WebIDL is a terrible mishmash of things influenced by the older impulses for Java-compat.
  690. # [18:48] <jgraham> I think oopinions vary on whether that's an accurate portrayal of the history
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  692. # [18:49] <TabAtkins> Hixie: That was definitely *our* original opinion, when we started working on "a new XBL, but have it make sense this time".
  693. # [18:49] <TabAtkins> It was literally "jQuery components are cool, but let's fix their flaws".
  694. # [18:49] <Hixie> TabAtkins: right, but given that "a new XBL" was the ~fifth iteration of that particular problem space, it's hardly the first set of opinions. :-)
  695. # [18:50] <TabAtkins> Right. I can't speak to previous iterations, just the one that I was a founding member of. ^_^
  696. # [18:50] <Hixie> i wouldn't even say it was "ours". i mean, i was a founding member of this stuff too, if you count my many conversations with dglazkov when he was getting started as founding
  697. # [18:50] <smaug____> TabAtkins: once you add /deep/, accessing shadow dom accidentally becomes just as easy as with normal dom without /deep/
  698. # [18:50] <Hixie> and i don't think i'd agree with that
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  701. # [18:51] <TabAtkins> Hixie: We talked a good bit over this before you even got roped in.
  702. # [18:51] <Hixie> i think we were talking about this before you got hired, but ok :-)
  703. # [18:52] <TabAtkins> smaug____: "Accidentally" meaning "without invoking shadow-dom stuff".
  704. # [18:52] <TabAtkins> Yes, using /deep/, you can do more than you intend, but you'll never touch shadow things if you dont' use shadow combinators.
  705. # [18:52] <smaug____> sure, but you may access not-yours shadow doms
  706. # [18:53] <smaug____> just like without /deep/ you may access not-ours dom subtrees
  707. # [18:53] <TabAtkins> Using descendant combinators, you can do more than you intend. That doesn't mean we need to only allow child combinators.
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  709. # [18:53] <TabAtkins> Hah, we hit the same metaphor.
  710. # [18:53] <TabAtkins> Well, simile.
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  717. # [18:57] <smaug____> TabAtkins: so, if /deep/ is allowed, what is the point with shadow dom ?
  718. # [18:58] <smaug____> you now get access easily to all the shadow dom, unintentionally, and break things
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  721. # [18:58] <smaug____> some encapsulation would be nice
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  725. # [19:03] <TabAtkins> I'm not sure how you define encapsulation if "didn't show up in the normal tree at all, requiring special operations to access" doesn't qualify.
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  729. # [19:06] <smaug____> well, /deep/ let's you poke any shadow dom. I would at least hope some specific "I want to access these shadow doms.". So ShadowRoot would need to have identifier, perhaps some kind of component class, like my-company-super-widget
  730. # [19:06] <smaug____> then deep("my-company-super-widget")
  731. # [19:06] <smaug____> something which forces dev to think which shadow dom to access
  732. # [19:07] <smaug____> and lets one to create inaccessible shadow dom (by not defining the component class)
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  736. # [19:12] <TabAtkins> We definitely want to add more controls of visibility.
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  738. # [19:12] <smaug____> stuff should be hidden by default
  739. # [19:13] <smaug____> and exposing opt-in
  740. # [19:13] <TabAtkins> Starting with the simplest form now (just hidden from normal access) because it's the most general and shuts our the fewest use-cases.
  741. # [19:15] <TabAtkins> We don't yet have a coherent proposal for what it means to "hide" a shadow DOM further, because there are multiple possibilities and it's actually quite complex
  742. # [19:15] <Hixie> haha, i've found a way to read a bit of information cross-origin on chrome
  743. # [19:16] <TabAtkins> The current behavior is at least coherent - all shadows are hidden from view unless you ask for them.
  744. # [19:16] <Hixie> the bit is "does this <embed> contain an image/svg+xml image"
  745. # [19:16] <smaug____> - bugs
  746. # [19:17] <smaug____> like exposing shadow dom during script execution in shadow dom
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  748. # [19:17] <TabAtkins> Of course.
  749. # [19:18] <TabAtkins> Abutter coherent behavior is "totally sealed away forever", like UA stuff does, but that's very complicated to describe and honestly not a good default
  750. # [19:18] <smaug____> (not that scripts should be executed in shadow dom at all per specs, but again, bugs)
  751. # [19:18] <smaug____> why it is not a good default?
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  754. # [19:18] <TabAtkins> There's probably a coherent middle ground, or even a slightly incoherent but useful one, but we haven't found it yet, and didn't want to hang ourselves in waiting for it.
  755. # [19:19] <Hixie> (seems like a pretty good default to me)
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  757. # [19:19] <TabAtkins> smaug____: Totally sealed sounds good until you actually use it
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  759. # [19:20] <Hixie> it's what we use every day with web controls
  760. # [19:20] <Hixie> what's wrong with it?
  761. # [19:20] <TabAtkins> We have relatively few, and relatively simple, shadows in the platform so far. Customizability is still a major issue
  762. # [19:20] <TabAtkins> Making things untouchable by default as shadows explode on number and complexity is very bad for usability.
  763. # [19:21] <Hixie> i disagree, but probably mostly because i have a different view of how the customisation should happen
  764. # [19:21] <Hixie> imho bindings should have two parts, the logic, and the presentation
  765. # [19:22] <Hixie> and most people should just overrride the presentation part of the binding
  766. # [19:22] <Hixie> each logic binding would define a "protocol" for how its presentation should be implemented
  767. # [19:22] <TabAtkins> I'm at lunch now, and I'll get on a plane afterwards, so I can't continue this convo today.
  768. # [19:22] <Hixie> this would let you arbitrarily restyle UA controls
  769. # [19:22] <Hixie> and the same would work with people's custom controls
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  771. # [19:24] <Hixie> in other news, wtf browsers.
  772. # [19:24] <Hixie> anyone got IE? I need a tie-breaker. http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?saved=3101
  773. # [19:27] <Hixie> safari: getSVGDocument() only returns a Document if the MIME type was image/svg+xml _and_ the root namespace is the SVG namespace
  774. # [19:27] <Hixie> chrome: getSVGDocument() returns a Document if the MIME type of the currently loaded document is image/svg+xml
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  776. # [19:28] <Hixie> but safari and chrome both are willing to load any MIME type in <embed>
  777. # [19:28] <Hixie> firefox: returns "NS_ERROR_FAILURE: on line 114" if the MIME type was image/svg+xml and the namesapce isn't SVG, and won't load other MIME types
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  779. # [19:28] <Hixie> but if you navigate to an HTML doc from the non-svg svg doc, then get SVGDocument() returns the Document fine???
  780. # [19:28] <Hixie> interop rating: 0.0
  781. # [19:29] <smaug____> hmm, NS_ERROR_FAILURE is surprising
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  787. # [19:37] <Hixie> better test http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?saved=3102
  788. # [19:39] <Hixie> ok, new info. safari requires the current document to have been loaded as image/svg+xml, and returns null for cross-origin accesses.
  789. # [19:41] <Hixie> chrome also requires the current document to have been loaded as image/svg+xml, but throws an exception for cross-origin accesses that would otherwise return a document.
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  793. # [19:42] <Hixie> firefox returns the current Document regardless of MIME type, except that if it was opened as image/svg+xml, it tries to get an SVGDocument, and fails with NS_NOINTERFACE if it's actualy not an SVGDocument
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  796. # [19:43] <Hixie> except if it's a data: URL, in which case it's NS_ERROR_FAILURE?
  797. # [19:43] <Hixie> and firefox follows the spec in terms of refusing to load non-SVG no-plugin MIME types
  798. # [19:44] <Hixie> but safari and chrome just treat the embed as an iframe if they support the type
  799. # [19:47] <Hixie> all the browsers look at what the current loaded doc is, though, not what the original doc was (not that it matters for firefox)
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  875. # [21:45] <Hixie> what exactly does the JS spec mean when it uses the term "abstract operation"?
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  877. # [21:48] <Hixie> it just means "internal spec function", right? not "abstract" in the normal sense?
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  879. # [21:50] <Hixie> man, i thought i'd be better able to understand the module loading system now, but i was wrong
  880. # [21:51] <Hixie> the whole of 15.2.* baffles me still
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  906. # [22:49] <Domenic> Hixie: yes, internal spec function. although "function" has its own connotations that don't apply
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