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  1. # Session Start: Sun Nov 02 00:00:01 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
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  28. # [01:16] <Hixie> Domenic: which instructions?
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  34. # [01:34] <Domenic> Hixie: when you email the subscribe address
  35. # [01:35] <Domenic> Hixie: basically, try to subscribe to whatwg and you'll see it's pretty bad
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  37. # [02:13] <Hixie> ah
  38. # [02:13] <Hixie> yeah
  39. # [02:13] <Hixie> dunno what to do about it
  40. # [02:14] <Hixie> Domenic: wait, why is it bad
  41. # [02:14] <Hixie> Domenic: can't you just reply to the e-mail and be done with it?
  42. # [02:16] <Domenic> Hixie: those instructions don't work either. They contradict themselves. The reply to address is different from the one in the body and they tell you to have only that string. Try it.
  43. # [02:16] <Hixie> ok, i sent an e-mail ta whatwg-subscribe@whatwg.org
  44. # [02:16] <Hixie> i got back an e-mail
  45. # [02:17] <Hixie> i replied to it
  46. # [02:17] <Hixie> now i'm subscribed
  47. # [02:17] <Hixie> i don't understand the problem
  48. # [02:17] <Hixie> i mean, other than the e-mail mentions the website, which doesn't work
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  50. # [02:27] <Domenic> Hmm replying didn't work for me
  51. # [02:27] <Domenic> And the reply-to didn't match the instructions in the body of the email
  52. # [02:28] <Domenic> Are there three separate ways to confirm subscription, only one of which works?
  53. # [02:28] <Domenic> Instructions in body for emailing whatwg-request don't work
  54. # [02:28] <Domenic> Clicking on the link doesn't work
  55. # [02:28] <Domenic> But replying does?
  56. # [02:29] <Hixie> there are three, two of which should work
  57. # [02:29] <Hixie> i haven't tried whatwg-request
  58. # [02:31] <Hixie> (the url will work too, you just have to use a browser that doesn't have HSTS information blocking that host)
  59. # [02:32] <Hixie> i sent a help command to whatwg-request@whatwg.org and that worked too, fwiw
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  64. # [02:53] <estellevw> Trying to full understand the "is" attribute, but having a hard time searching for such a popular term. Anyone have a link to a good explanation and the spec?
  65. # [02:53] <estellevw> s/full/fully
  66. # [02:54] <estellevw> just had to ask so that i could find it. http://w3c.github.io/webcomponents/spec/custom/#instantiating-custom-elements
  67. # [02:54] <estellevw> never mind
  68. # [02:56] <estellevw> though if anyone has a good article, that's appreciated
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  117. # [06:15] <Domenic> Hixie: hmm my bad, I typoed "request" :(
  118. # [06:18] <Hixie> heh
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  182. # [10:50] <jsx> @counter-style is part of css3, right?
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  184. # [11:09] <Ms2ger> It's part of CSS, yes
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  187. # [11:19] <jsx> ok, Ms2ger, just wanted to make sure its correct if i tag it as CSS3 in MDN
  188. # [11:19] <Ms2ger> That's not particularly useful, but *shrug*
  189. # [11:21] <jsx> alright.. i thought that might help if someone is searching for CSS3 specific things
  190. # [11:22] <annevk> jsx: CSS3 is not a thing per the CSS WG
  191. # [11:23] <jsx> oh! ok
  192. # [11:23] <annevk> jsx: so if we pretend that CSS3 is a thing in MDN, we might want to overhaul that
  193. # [11:23] <annevk> jsx: and instead focus on modules
  194. # [11:23] <jsx> nope, i'm removing it rightaway
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  196. # [11:23] <jsx> thanks for the info
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  200. # [11:29] <jsx> annevk: is it a political thing like how the whatwg calls it html while the w3c calls it html5? or is this universal. (sorry, i'm very new to this)
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  202. # [11:31] <Ms2ger> jsx, no, this is the CSSWG's call, actually
  203. # [11:31] <annevk> jsx: while CSS 2.1 was still being developed, CSS3 (at the time still a thing) was developed in the form of modules
  204. # [11:31] <Ms2ger> jsx, they have version numbers for individual modules, but "CSS3" as a general thing doesn't exist
  205. # [11:31] <annevk> jsx: however, some of those modules turned out to advance quicker than CSS3 as a whole
  206. # [11:32] <annevk> jsx: so versioning (leveling in CSSWG terms) became scoped to modules, rather than CSS
  207. # [11:32] <jsx> like "CSS Counter Styles Level 3" annevk?
  208. # [11:32] <annevk> jsx: exactly
  209. # [11:32] <annevk> jsx: http://www.xanthir.com/b4Ko0 has an explanation from TabAtkins
  210. # [11:33] <Ms2ger> TIL: Chrome still doesn't support setting event types to the empty string
  211. # [11:33] <Ms2ger> Speaking of which...
  212. # [11:33] <Ms2ger> annevk, r? https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1342 :)
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  214. # [11:33] <jsx> thanks annevk, Ms2ger
  215. # [11:33] <Ms2ger> Np
  216. # [11:34] <annevk> Ms2ger: I take it you ran these through a browser already?
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  218. # [11:35] <Ms2ger> Er
  219. # [11:35] <Ms2ger> Looks like I broke one since the last time I did
  220. # [11:36] <annevk> Ms2ger: createEvent table does not match https://dom.spec.whatwg.org/#dom-document-createevent
  221. # [11:38] <annevk> Ms2ger: reviewed
  222. # [11:38] <Ms2ger> Thanks
  223. # [11:39] <Ms2ger> Looks like TouchEvent isn't supported in Fx?
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  225. # [11:39] <Ms2ger> Oh, I guess it might be preffed off
  226. # [11:40] <Ms2ger> annevk, again? :)
  227. # [11:41] <annevk> Ms2ger: again?
  228. # [11:41] <Ms2ger> I added the missing ones
  229. # [11:41] <annevk> Ah, done
  230. # [11:41] <Ms2ger> Thanks
  231. # [11:41] <annevk> I thought I had said something stupid somewhere
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  233. # [11:43] <Ms2ger> No no :)
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  259. # [13:59] <annevk> Hixie: stylesheet on whatwg.org has "padding; 0;"
  260. # [14:00] <annevk> Hixie: same stylesheet (tabbed-pages) also has -moz-outline which is dropped in Firefox Nightly
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  280. # [15:59] <Ms2ger> The descriptions of those old DOM tests are pure poetry
  281. # [16:00] <Ms2ger> An document type accessed, setNodeValue is called with a non-null argument, but getNodeValue
  282. # [16:00] <Ms2ger> should still return null.
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  300. # [16:53] <TabAtkins> annevk: That blog post gets so much mileage.
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  381. # [22:50] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: the things about URLs like css4-backgrounds could be updated, I guess
  382. # [22:50] <SimonSapin> though it might still be relevant for some TR snapshots
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