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  1. # Session Start: Fri Nov 14 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
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  27. # [01:14] <zewt> bleh, is there a non-pain-in-the-ass way to see which page/script is hosing Firefox these days, like some way to attach the script profiler to the browser
  28. # [01:15] <zewt> firefox is persistently in a 3-10-second-delay-per-input CPU chewing state now and I'm not sure what's causing it (and I don't really want to binary search everything)
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  32. # [01:19] <TabAtkins> No task manager or equivalent in FF?
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  34. # [01:26] <zewt> i think firefox is upset at my vertical tab plugin, but for reasons that look like they would take a while for me to figure out
  35. # [01:26] <zewt> triggering a slow code path or something
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  38. # [01:34] <zewt> i remember why this is hard now, you can attach the inspector to the browser ... but you can't actually view things like the tab box in it (seems strange--going to the trouble of implementing a browser this way, but not making the development tools actually work on the browser. i'd think that'd be a high priority for their own work)
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  42. # [01:38] <birtles> zewt: not sure if I understand your problem, but did you turn on chrome debugging?
  43. # [01:39] <zewt> yeah, I can attach to the debugger and see the tabbrowser, but the tab view itself isn't visible (which is what I think I need to fiddle with)
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  45. # [01:40] <zewt> which I remember seeing a ticket for fixing the last time I tried to do something like this
  46. # [01:40] <birtles> zewt: ok, I don't know them. Does the DOM Inspector add-on do the same thing?
  47. # [01:40] <birtles> s/them/then
  48. # [01:41] <zewt> it doesn't, just restarted firefox to turn it back on (and to reset the lag; got too bad to do anything)
  49. # [01:42] <zewt> (it's a bit glitchy for those elements, which I guess is why they're hidden in the builtin tools, but better glitchy than nothing...)
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  52. # [01:47] <jgraham> I think some sort of per-tab CPU monitoring is in the works
  53. # [01:47] <jgraham> Well it's a rumor I heard at least
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  77. # [02:40] <roc> the Gecko profiler should solve your problem, though I admit it's not the most user-friendly tool
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  79. # [02:45] <zewt> i tried it, but i think it only gave a red herring (some noise in the tabbrowser, but after a restart and things are fast again, the profile results are identical)
  80. # [02:47] <roc> that suggests the problem was in some thread that it doesn't monitor :-(
  81. # [02:47] <roc> though that wouldn't explain why it was causing laggy response to input
  82. # [02:48] <zewt> not leaping at the thought of making a debug build
  83. # [02:49] <zewt> (opening menus was taking 10-20 seconds, so I could hit it then break in the debugger and see where I end up ... but i could just land in the JS VM somewhere, heh)
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  191. # [09:52] <zcorpan> roc: i'm sorry. it's high on my todo list now though
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  193. # [09:55] <roc> zcorpan: it's OK. how can I help?
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  197. # [09:57] <zcorpan> roc: i don't know right now. i plan to reverse engineer the impl. maybe you can give me relevant pointers to the source code?
  198. # [09:58] <roc> you shouldn't need to do that
  199. # [10:02] <roc> zcorpan: there's an email thread in www-style titled "Behavior of getBoxQuads, convert*FromNode" which I replied to with some information
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  201. # [10:03] <roc> zcorpan: basically if you search for "getBoxQuads" in www-style there are several threads with issues and resolutions
  202. # [10:04] <roc> if you have any questions, ask me instead of trawling through source
  203. # [10:04] <zcorpan> roc: yep. they are "unread" in my inbox :-)
  204. # [10:05] <annevk> So memes on Twitter have it that WebRTC in the IETF will require both H264 and V8
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  211. # [10:29] <zcorpan> http://www.w3.org/TR/mixed-content/#references references a whatwg spec
  212. # [10:33] <JakeA> 2014 was the year the w3 first referenced a whatwg spec. By 2016 the machines had taken over.
  213. # [10:34] <danbri> new W3C TR style rules: all normative references to external living standards MUST blink
  214. # [10:39] <annevk> zcorpan: Fetch has no fork
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  216. # [10:43] <annevk> http://open.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/embracing-https/ does this mean NYT will use TLS?
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  221. # [11:01] <matijs> By the end of 2015… :)
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  234. # [11:54] <JakeA> annevk: I'm looking at https://slightlyoff.github.io/ServiceWorker/spec/service_worker/#service-worker-container.1 and wanting to make it non-window specific so we can expose it within workers. All the associated document is used for is url. I'm thinking I should swap this for associated environment settings object and rely on
  235. # [11:54] <JakeA> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27146 - does that make sense or am I going in the wrong direction?
  236. # [11:55] <annevk> JakeA: makes sense
  237. # [11:56] <JakeA> Ta
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  263. # [12:59] <annevk> JakeA: thanks for working on it
  264. # [12:59] <annevk> JakeA: btw, did you follow the conversation where Hixie pointed out dedicated workers should just be a client?
  265. # [12:59] <annevk> JakeA: and once navigator.serviceWorker is exposed, that makes perfect sense
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  267. # [13:00] <JakeA> annevk: yep. I think my past objections were because appcache doesn't treat a dedicated worker as its own thing. But yeah, it should be its own client.
  268. # [13:02] <JakeA> annevk: Out of curiosity, what do you use to edit specs? It sounds like heresy, but given that specs are more markup than text, I almost find myself wanting some kind of higher-level editor
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  270. # [13:05] <annevk> Anolis
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  272. # [13:06] <annevk> Domenic has a Markdown setup I think
  273. # [13:06] <annevk> Through TabAtkins's bikeshed perhaps?
  274. # [13:06] <annevk> Study Streams repo
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  277. # [13:18] <JakeA> Cheers
  278. # [13:22] <JakeA> annevk: I've defined navigator.serviceWorker's associated env settings obj as the env settings obj of the currently executing script
  279. # [13:22] <JakeA> I feel like I need a reference to "currently executing"
  280. # [13:22] <JakeA> Is there a hook for that?
  281. # [13:24] <annevk> JakeA: I think what you want to say is that a global has an associated whatever navigator.serviceWorker returns
  282. # [13:24] <annevk> JakeA: and then use the global's env settings object
  283. # [13:24] <annevk> JakeA: so that whenever a global is constructed a navigator.serviceWorker thingy is constructed to
  284. # [13:30] <JakeA> annevk: brilliant, thanks. That was all there but I was getting to env settings via script rather than global. \o/
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  292. # [13:53] <Domenic> JakeA: I still am using raw HTML through Bikeshed, but dherman and I are working on something to integrate Ecmarkdown https://github.com/domenic/ecmarkdown into it to make it easier to write and read the algorithm steps.
  293. # [13:54] <JakeA> Ohh cool. Will look into Bikeshed & keep an eye on ecmarkdown. Ta!
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  297. # [14:02] <smaug____> hmm, why has the spec changed to require type="popup" and not type="context"
  298. # [14:03] * smaug____ really misses some blame/annotation for the spec
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  300. # [14:04] <annevk> smaug____: what spec?
  301. # [14:04] <smaug____> HTML
  302. # [14:04] <annevk> I don't know what type=popup is
  303. # [14:04] <smaug____> menu element
  304. # [14:05] <annevk> Ah
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  307. # [14:11] <smaug____> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012Dec/0264.html apparently
  308. # [14:14] <annevk> 'Chrome is correct, "popup" the required type value. Firefox, as usual, is ignoring the specification' lolwat
  309. # [14:15] <smaug____> yup, had to answer to that
  310. # [14:16] <JakeA> annevk: Currently we assign a serviceworker registration to documents, is env settings obj the right thing to replace document with here?
  311. # [14:17] <annevk> JakeA: I think you want global object
  312. # [14:17] <annevk> JakeA: or env settings obj, yes
  313. # [14:17] <annevk> JakeA: they should be 1:1
  314. # [14:18] <JakeA> Cheers
  315. # [14:18] <annevk> Good rule of thumb is probably that anywhere service worker mentions document, it's wrong
  316. # [14:18] <JakeA> hah
  317. # [14:20] <smaug____> (missing the context, but the same document can be used for several globals, and a global can be used for 1 or 2 documents)
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  333. # [15:00] <annevk> JakeA: I thought I'd engage a bit more in that discussion with Joel, just in case we do have to change course
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  336. # [15:02] <JakeA> annevk: Cool, sounds like he's pretty sold on fixing Chrome rather than breaking the platform more
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  360. # [16:16] <rektide_> can we please make event-handlers declarative? there is, as far as i am aware, no specification which can enumerate listeners
  361. # [16:16] <rektide_> :(
  362. # [16:17] <rektide_> i had a newbie i was trying to help make his codeschool life not suck
  363. # [16:17] <rektide_> https://gist.github.com/johnelliott/690905bb909347a56941
  364. # [16:17] <rektide_> we failed
  365. # [16:18] <caitp> :'(
  366. # [16:19] <caitp> the way that problem is usually solved is to maintain a collection of listeners for a given event, eg jquery will store this collection in an element's expando
  367. # [16:19] <caitp> it's not a very good solution, but it works for them
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  375. # [16:39] <rektide_> this is one of those dark dank corners of HTML that isn't at all in any way declarative
  376. # [16:39] <rektide_> it's entirely invisible imperative
  377. # [16:40] <rektide_> :'(
  378. # [16:40] <rektide_> (the reason we failed is that getEventListeners is a tool available only to debuggers, with no specification: it was something Moz implemented a long long time ago & which spread... for debuggers)
  379. # [16:41] <rektide_> (in case the problem wasn't apparent)
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  381. # [16:48] <TabAtkins> Domenic: Ah, I didn't realize you were trying to integrate ecmarkdown into Bikeshed. You should let me know about these things. ^^_
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  384. # [16:50] <TabAtkins> JakeA: You should absolutely not be editting specs by hand. Use either Bikeshed or ReSpec (I prefer Bikeshed obvs).
  385. # [16:51] <Ms2ger> Use whatever isn't respec :)
  386. # [16:52] <JakeA> TabAtkins: Are you around for Chrome Dev Summit? Would be good to see your workflow. I just did a series of editing by hand and now I kinda just want to go to bed and never get up again
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  388. # [16:56] <TabAtkins> I'm in the office today if that's what you're asking.
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  394. # [17:08] <annevk> rektide_: what does making them declarative mean?
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  396. # [17:12] <TabAtkins> JakeA: Yeah, I can show up for CDS.
  397. # [17:12] <TabAtkins> It's just over in the Quad.
  398. # [17:13] <JakeA> TabAtkins: I may pop over to your desk on Mon/Tues if I get my shit together before CDS
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  400. # [17:15] <TabAtkins> JakeA: kk
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  404. # [17:23] <JakeA> TabAtkins: An alternate to Kenji & Ilya's font loading rendering proposal https://github.com/KenjiBaheux/css-font-rendering/issues/11#issuecomment-63088971
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  455. # [19:26] <Hixie> zcorpan: you around?
  456. # [19:26] <Hixie> zcorpan: are you in charge of firing 'scroll' events?
  457. # [19:27] <jgraham> (that sounds much funnier than it is supposed to)
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  472. # [19:38] <Hixie> if you have a WebIDL-defined callback that returns type A
  473. # [19:38] <Hixie> and the actual callback returns type B
  474. # [19:39] <Hixie> what does Web IDL say should happen? throw TypeError?
  475. # [19:40] <Hixie> looks like yes
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  477. # [19:40] <zcorpan> Hixie: yeah cssom view
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  479. # [19:42] <annevk> Hixie: yes it would throw
  480. # [19:42] <annevk> Hixie: note that there's a number of open bugs around callbacks and rethrowing exceptions, some depending on fixes in HTML
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  482. # [19:44] <annevk> Hixie: unless it's a promise, then it'd reject, though I'm not sure if that makes sense
  483. # [19:45] <annevk> it does make sense
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  497. # [20:02] <Hixie> bummer, missed zcorpan
  498. # [20:02] <Hixie> zcorpan: when you come back, i'm looking at https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26839 which involves me firing 'scroll' events at a defined time, and would like to hook into your spec to do this
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  522. # [20:45] <gsnedders> TabAtkins: I wonder if you could adapt some existing tagger to reasonably do POS tagging of Twitter.
  523. # [20:45] <gsnedders> TabAtkins: (assume we limit ourselves to English here)
  524. # [20:45] <TabAtkins> Never worked with one, so I dunno.
  525. # [20:45] <gsnedders> ("you" was really the generic "one" there)
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  527. # [20:45] <gsnedders> most tagged corpora are done through taggers nowadays, often with human review after
  528. # [20:46] <gsnedders> but I dunno if it'll work so well with more informal language, probably containing more typos and more unknown words
  529. # [20:46] <gsnedders> I'd be skeptical?
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  536. # [20:53] <rektide> annevk: making registered event handlers declarative means exposing the registered handler in the DOM
  537. # [20:56] <Ms2ger> Anyone know a spec for the enter-to-submit behaviour in forms?
  538. # [20:56] <tantek> HTML?
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  547. # [21:05] <Ms2ger> tantek, where in the kitchen sink? :)
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  601. # [22:26] <annevk> rektide: odd definition of declarative
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  604. # [22:28] <caitp> well it's JS, it's imperative --- but they're right, it kinda sucks :)
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  606. # [22:30] <annevk> inspecting event listeners kinda sucks too, so I guess it's all good
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