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  37. # [04:02] <Manishearth> Any help with building the specs myself?
  38. # [04:02] <Manishearth> I get SyntaxError: Terms not defined: [[u'api referrer source', 'html'], [u'api referrer source', 'html'], [u'api referrer source', 'html']].
  39. # [04:02] <Manishearth> for xhr
  40. # [04:03] <Manishearth> and for fetch there is no CSS/js
  41. # [04:04] <MikeSmith> Manishearth: with bikeshed?
  42. # [04:04] <MikeSmith> espadrine`: I think Hixie was replying to a question from estellevw here earlier
  43. # [04:04] <Manishearth> MikeSmith: how?
  44. # [04:05] <Manishearth> I'm using anolis
  45. # [04:05] <MikeSmith> ah ok
  46. # [04:05] <Manishearth> I don't mind using something else
  47. # [04:05] <MikeSmith> (bikeshed is the new anolis)
  48. # [04:05] <Manishearth> Where do I find it?
  49. # [04:06] <MikeSmith> Manishearth: https://github.com/tabatkins/bikeshed
  50. # [04:06] <MikeSmith> Manishearth: but when you say "Any help with building the specs myself", you mean some other specs? Like, the Fetch spec or something?
  51. # [04:07] <MikeSmith> it looks like Fetch is still using anolis
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  55. # [04:10] <MikeSmith> Manishearth: if you need to use anolis I think you need to make sure to use the version from https://bitbucket.org/ms2ger/anolis/
  56. # [04:10] <MikeSmith> I think that's the canonical/latest these days
  57. # [04:11] <MikeSmith> and I'm not sure but I don't think you could use bikeshed to process spec source that's written to expect anolis
  58. # [04:12] <MikeSmith> e.g., not sure they handle xrefs for <dfn>s in the same way
  59. # [04:13] <caitp> maybe if someone assembled a list of all the quirks and features of all of the different spec generating tools and specified them, it would improve interoperability enough that it wouldn't matter
  60. # [04:15] <Hixie> espadrine`: uh yeah, sorry man. meant to respond to estellevw and didn't notice autocomplete had gotten the wrong name.
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  63. # [04:22] <Manishearth> MikeSmith: yeah, I'm using that
  64. # [04:23] <Manishearth> But the fetch spec doesn't have any JS/CSS when compiled with anolis
  65. # [04:23] <MikeSmith> weird
  66. # [04:26] <MikeSmith> Manishearth: will try it myself to see if I can reproduce it
  67. # [04:27] <Manishearth> thanks
  68. # [04:27] <Manishearth> MikeSmith: how do I compile the html sepc?
  69. # [04:28] <MikeSmith> Manishearth: I think you don't, because the tools aren't published. But ask Hixie
  70. # [04:29] <Manishearth> aw
  71. # [04:29] <Manishearth> that's kinda what I wanted to compile :p
  72. # [04:30] <Manishearth> (Wanted to have it offline, with xrefs)
  73. # [04:39] <MikeSmith> Manishearth: curl https://html.spec.whatwg.org > index.html :)
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  76. # [04:40] <MikeSmith> or clone https://github.com/whatwg/html-mirror and used complete.html
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  78. # [04:40] <Manishearth> MikeSmith: multipage
  79. # [04:40] <MikeSmith> ah
  80. # [04:41] <MikeSmith> Manishearth: can't help you there :(
  81. # [04:42] <MikeSmith> Manishearth: about the Fetch spec though, see https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/blob/master/Overview.src.html#L5
  82. # [04:43] <MikeSmith> <link rel=stylesheet href=//whatwg.org/style/specification>
  83. # [04:43] <MikeSmith> that't going to work if you're browsing the file from your filesystem
  84. # [04:44] <MikeSmith> for it to work, you'd need to serve it over http locally
  85. # [04:44] <MikeSmith> e.g., run "python -m SimpleHTTPServer" in your fetch dir
  86. # [04:44] <Manishearth> yeah
  87. # [04:48] <MikeSmith> totally urelated dumb question: are .pyc files architecture-dependent?
  88. # [04:48] <MikeSmith> I guess they must be
  89. # [04:50] <MikeSmith> trying to decide if I should just exclude them from an rysnc between a workspace on my macbook and a linux server
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  94. # [05:21] <Hixie> Manishearth: see https://github.com/benschwarz/developers.whatwg.org/issues/90
  95. # [05:23] <Manishearth> Hixie: thanks
  96. # [05:25] <Manishearth> i think wget --recursive will work
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  142. # [09:34] <annevk> Manishearth: sounds like you're doing everything right
  143. # [09:35] <annevk> Manishearth: I need to update XMLHttpRequest to use the new term "referrer source" and Fetch stylesheets likely don't load due to scheme-relative URLs
  144. # [09:36] <Manishearth> annevk: How do I get the CSS to work, though?
  145. # [09:36] <Manishearth> ah
  146. # [09:36] <Manishearth> so the css will be there for XHR
  147. # [09:36] <annevk> Manishearth: we could update the URLs to say https explicitly
  148. # [09:37] <annevk> MikeSmith: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23646#c48 spam (not just comments, also altering URL field)
  149. # [09:38] <annevk> MikeSmith: due to mailing list integration that spam also reached www-international: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2014OctDec/0154.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2014OctDec/0155.html
  150. # [09:40] <MikeSmith> annevk: lookin now
  151. # [09:40] <Manishearth> annevk: any idea how to get internal cross-referencing to work on the html spec?
  152. # [09:41] <Manishearth> multipage
  153. # [09:41] <Manishearth> I did a recursive wget
  154. # [09:41] <annevk> Manishearth: from XMLHttpRequest?
  155. # [09:42] <Manishearth> no, html
  156. # [09:42] <Manishearth> aha, fragment-links.js
  157. # [09:43] <annevk> Manishearth: Hixie has a bunch of custom scripts
  158. # [09:43] <annevk> Manishearth: that is what we scrape in some manner, yes
  159. # [09:43] <MikeSmith> annevk: thanks for the heads-up -- marked those messages as spam and banned in bugzilla (thankfully looks like he/she only changed that one bug)
  160. # [09:44] <annevk> nice
  161. # [09:44] <annevk> Manishearth: it's not entirely clear to me what you are trying to do, but I guess you found something that works :-)
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  163. # [09:46] <Manishearth> annevk: I'm trying to have a local copy of multipage (singlepage too slow)
  164. # [09:46] <Manishearth> For the flight
  165. # [09:48] <annevk> Manishearth: I see, I guess we should start writing a service worker script for these so going forward nobody has to resort to hacks
  166. # [09:49] <Manishearth> heh
  167. # [09:51] <Manishearth> annevk: I have a list of steps, anywhere they can go?
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  181. # [10:31] <annevk> Manishearth: WHATWG Wiki?
  182. # [10:34] <Manishearth> annevk: okay, sure
  183. # [10:36] <Manishearth> annevk: account please? :)
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  189. # [11:21] <annevk> Manishearth: you don't have one? Oh, email and desired username please, through /msg or here is fine
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  240. # [15:14] <MikeSmith> Firefox Nightly I mean
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  243. # [15:17] <MikeSmith> ah I guess I need to manually add it
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