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  101. # [08:51] <annevk> Every other week there is this tweet: https://twitter.com/sergiolujanmora/status/554072564989837313 I wonder where they originate...
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  129. # [12:06] <gsnedders> jgraham: do you have any opinions on py.test v. nose? would like to move to py.test for html5lib, it's compat is such that we don't have to change anything except for requirements-test.txt and tox.ini/.travis.yaml
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  164. # [14:53] <hemanth> meow!
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  170. # [15:55] <gsnedders> jgraham: argh why did you let #177 go through? it should update the readme and requirements*.txt files too!
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  180. # [17:02] <jgraham> gsnedders: Presumably because you didn't review it :p
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  182. # [17:04] <jgraham> That said
  183. # [17:04] <jgraham> I think the idea of a changelog is largely dumb. If you care look at the commit history
  184. # [17:05] <gsnedders> I think changelogs are worthwhile for significant changes, or changes that affect a lot of users
  185. # [17:05] <gsnedders> I certainly think they're pointless if you include everything in them
  186. # [17:06] <gsnedders> And commit history is messy when you start having merge commits (bah, GitHub)
  187. # [17:06] <gsnedders> jgraham: can we go back to trying to have a linear history for html5lib? :P
  188. # [17:06] <jgraham> I also note that ordereddict is already in the requirements file for 2.6, so I'm not sure what change you wanted
  189. # [17:06] <gsnedders> it's in requirements-optional-2.6.txt which makes it sound very optional?
  190. # [17:06] <gsnedders> whereas the intention of #177 is that it is now required
  191. # [17:07] <jgraham> I claim it's optional in the sense that if you opt to use 2.6 it's required
  192. # [17:07] <gsnedders> Though I'm now sure we want that. The argument seems to be "this API is broken without this installed". That equally applies html5lib.parse("a", tree="lxml").
  193. # [17:08] <gsnedders> Should we then say we require lxml, etc.?
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  195. # [17:08] <gsnedders> I think the whole argument that it's required on 2.6 is bogus, tbh
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  198. # [17:11] <jgraham> Well python's optional dependency handling is pretty terrible. Not that I can think of a system where it's better
  199. # [17:12] <gsnedders> tl;dr: we should either document it as being required or we should not list it as required in setup.py
  200. # [17:13] <gsnedders> jgraham: fyi I'm moving us over to py.test, because I think it makes all our stuff with loading tests from external files way saner
  201. # [17:13] <gsnedders> and makes writing a script to update expected failures sane :P
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