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  1. # Session Start: Thu Feb 19 14:02:04 2015
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  4. # [14:02] * Topic is 'https://whatwg.org/ — logs: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/ & http://logbot.glob.com.au/ — stats: http://gavinsharp.com/irc/whatwg.html — Please leave your sense of logic at the door, thanks!'
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  21. # [15:03] <wanderview> annevk: sleep is a strong word when you have a baby (which I'm sure you know)
  22. # [15:03] <annevk> heh
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  24. # [15:04] <zcorpan> annevk: would it make sense to have a <meta> or <link> to invoke the OPTIONS * preflight, to reduce latency?
  25. # [15:05] <zcorpan> latency of the initial API use, i mean
  26. # [15:06] <annevk> zcorpan: requesting CORS for a particular origin? Yeah maybe
  27. # [15:06] <zcorpan> yeah
  28. # [15:08] <zcorpan> it would also provide an opt-in if it's not compatible to do OPTIONS * from APIs
  29. # [15:11] <wanderview> annevk: just to clarify... response2 = response1.clone()... response2 should have the same header guard as response 1, correct?
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  31. # [15:12] <annevk> wanderview: yup
  32. # [15:12] <wanderview> thanks
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  48. # [15:43] <tty> hi all. i have made a top navigation menu that i want to include in two or more apps like wordpress. i want the apps to have the same global navigation. for the moment i have tried copy/paste the navigation html/css/js. i tried putting all js and css on one server and loading the navigation html with jquery enabling CORS. is there a better way to approach this? angularjs? iframes?
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  61. # [16:04] <jgraham> annevk: Is it defined somewhere (url)? what the valid syntax of a path is?
  62. # [16:04] <jgraham> Oh yeah
  63. # [16:05] <jgraham> I see now
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  75. # [17:05] <annevk> Domenic: bz thinks it's somewhat critical that eventually all consumers get some notification of cancelation
  76. # [17:05] <annevk> Domenic: is that a recognized goal of cancelable promises?
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  80. # [17:08] <annevk> dglazkov: thanks for setting it all up!
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  83. # [17:21] <Domenic> Krinkle|detached: MikeSmith: https://www.npmjs.com/package/parse5 has a streaming mode and at least in its normal mode passes all the parser tests. Don't know the details, but it might be interesting.
  84. # [17:21] <Domenic> annevk: yeah, I'm unsure on Task<T> being worth the trouble. Although, duck-typing would let most consumers treat them identically to promises.
  85. # [17:22] <Domenic> Future<T> seems much less interesting to me, but that's an age-old debate
  86. # [17:23] <Domenic> annevk: in practice we haven't found a use case for notifying consumers of cancellation
  87. # [17:23] <Domenic> everyone just filters out the cancellation rejection and ignores it.
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  89. # [17:28] <MikeSmith> Domenic: niceーthanks
  90. # [17:29] <annevk> Domenic: okay, I should ask bz
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  127. # [18:42] <annevk> Domenic: so bz brings up the case of the end user terminating fetches by hitting something in the UI
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  129. # [18:43] <annevk> Domenic: is that cancel-like or network-error-like?
  130. # [18:43] <Domenic> annevk: that sounds network-error-like to me.
  131. # [18:43] <annevk> Domenic: what about killing a worker or navigating away from a page?
  132. # [18:43] <annevk> Domenic: okay, it currently is that way
  133. # [18:43] <Domenic> all of those cases sound the same as if the server just immediately cut off the connection
  134. # [18:44] <annevk> Domenic: but from the other consumers of the promise, how is one consumer cutting off the connection any different?
  135. # [18:44] <Domenic> annevk: yeah, multi-consumer is the problem indeed, hmm.
  136. # [18:45] <annevk> promise.onterminate trololol
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  138. # [18:47] <Domenic> maybe .terminate({ rejectWith: }) provides the answer
  139. # [18:47] <Domenic> browsers do .terminate({ rejectWith: NetworkError })
  140. # [18:47] <Domenic> but most users do .terminate()
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  142. # [18:49] <TabAtkins> I said that was a nice model. ^_^
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  145. # [18:50] <annevk> Yeah, I guess the question is whether we should start with it or introduce it when it becomes a pain point
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  148. # [18:53] <Domenic> yeah i was kind of hoping we would start with .terminate() and then find out we never needed { rejectWith }
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  180. # [20:34] <Krinkle> Domenic: Thanks :)
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  264. # [23:19] <caitp-> are webidl attributes supposed to be configurable?
  265. # [23:19] <caitp-> like, in general
  266. # [23:19] <heycam> yes, in general
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  273. # [23:27] <caitp-> hm, jsc does some weird stuff
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  275. # [23:30] <TabAtkins> caitp-: Yes it does, but also note that WebKit/Blink put attributes in the wrong place. They're placed on the object, when WebIDL says they should be getter/setters on the prototype.
  276. # [23:31] <caitp-> i heard there was some progress on that, wasn't there?
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  279. # [23:32] <TabAtkins> Yeah, we keep trying.
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  284. # [23:48] <gsnedders> rewriting test harnesses has to be my least fun hobby ever
  285. # [23:50] * espadrine_ is now known as espadrine
  286. # [23:50] <espadrine> I'm puzzled by window.location.hostname outputting IPv6 hostnames without the brackets.
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  288. # [23:55] <gsnedders> espadrine: where's your sense of logic?
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  290. # [23:55] <espadrine> let me put it at the door ☺
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