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  1. # Session Start: Wed Mar 11 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
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  6. # [00:03] <Mateon1> I'm looking for a language that has type safety, doesn't matter if optional or enforced, but shouldn't involve too much extra code. should have a non-nullable type, as well as an Optional type. Is there anything close to that?
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  41. # [01:38] <MikeSmith> jgraham: transpiler outputs source code, not object code, right?
  42. # [01:39] <MikeSmith> Mateon1: sounds like Swift
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  45. # [01:39] <MikeSmith> from what little I remember hearing about stuff that swift has
  46. # [01:43] <MikeSmith> the benefit in practice of Optional is mainly preventing NPEs, right?
  47. # [01:43] <MikeSmith> (I'm asking)
  48. # [01:43] * MikeSmith decides to read up some
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  50. # [01:48] <MikeSmith> ... or avoiding segfaults or whatever consequence is
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  70. # [02:40] <MikeSmith> anybody have opinions on what HTTP client library is best practice to use in Java code these days?
  71. # [02:41] <MikeSmith> context is https://github.com/validator/validator/issues/61
  72. # [02:42] * MikeSmith wonders about https://developers.google.com/api-client-library/java/google-http-java-client/setup but the fact that page causes a mixed-content warning doesn't inspire huge confidence
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  74. # [02:43] <MikeSmith> oh anyway that's not a general-purpose libary ("provides simple, flexible, access to Google APIs for Java client applications")
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  239. # [10:43] <jgraham> MikeSmith: If you like. But early C++ compilers ouput C code and invoked an existing C compiler on that. The modern Nim compiler, for example, does the same thing. Other compilers like GHC have options to output C or JS code rather than object files. So it seems to me to be an arbitary distinction that doesn't really capture the most interesting part of what a compiler does.
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  244. # [10:51] <terinjokes> Domenic: what archive formats?
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  256. # [11:26] <Domenic> terinjokes: https://w3ctag.github.io/packaging-on-the-web/
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  272. # [12:16] <roc> jgraham: indeed
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  275. # [12:18] <roc> Mateon1: JS Typed Objects give you some of what you want.
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  296. # [13:53] <The-Compiler> So it seems foo::bar would be a valid URL, right? I'm writing a browser and wonder if I should always treat foo::bar as a searchterm (think C++) instead of a link with an explicit scheme - are there any common protocols which use URLs with a :bar path?
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  393. # [17:28] <terinjokes> Domenic: i didn't think that went anywhere, since it wasn't very popular at EWS
  394. # [17:28] <terinjokes> I've been shimming this for about 2 years now
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  416. # [18:28] <jgraham> I might be very stupid, but I don't see where new Event() initializes the bubbled and cancelable attributes
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  418. # [18:33] <miketaylr> jgraham: new Event("plop", {"bubbles":true, "cancelable":false})?
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  420. # [18:34] <jgraham> miketaylr: I mean if you do new Event() with no arguments, per the spec
  421. # [18:34] <miketaylr> ah
  422. # [18:34] <miketaylr> it looks like, both as false?
  423. # [18:35] <miketaylr> in the IDL https://dom.spec.whatwg.org/#dfnReturnLink-0
  424. # [18:35] <miketaylr> but i don't see any prose other than that, no
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  426. # [18:36] <miketaylr> better link https://dom.spec.whatwg.org/#interface-event
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  428. # [18:40] <jgraham> Oh right, that thing there.
  429. # [18:44] <Ms2ger> Yeah, event constructors are defined pretty magically
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