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- # Session Start: Wed Apr 22 00:00:00 2015
- # Session Ident: #whatwg
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- # [00:23] <annevk> Domenic: I wish the GitHub client exposed --author
- # [00:23] <Domenic> annevk: aww it doesn't? :(
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- # [00:23] <annevk> I wonder why GitHub for Mac is not on GitHub itself
- # [00:23] <Domenic> annevk: you can probably use the client then just do `git commit --amend --author...`
- # [00:24] <Domenic> (before pushing)
- # [00:24] <annevk> Domenic: it couples commit and push these days, but maybe that can be changed
- # [00:24] <TabAtkins> Or fuck it and do it after pushing, if you think that maybe other people haven't pulled. ^_^
- # [00:24] * Domenic eyes TabAtkins suspiciously
- # [00:25] <TabAtkins> Listen man, I'm a rebel. I do what I want.
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- # [00:25] <Domenic> woo {{s gone
- # [00:25] <TabAtkins> Yay!
- # [00:26] * annevk emails support@github.com
- # [00:26] <TabAtkins> Now to deal with biblio issues!
- # [00:26] <annevk> Wait, you can't change a commit after pushing?
- # [00:26] <Domenic> you can but it's frowned upon
- # [00:26] <TabAtkins> annevk: Well, you can do whatever you want. But if other people have pulled, and you alter history, they'll have conflicts when they pull again.
- # [00:27] <annevk> o_O
- # [00:27] <TabAtkins> They'll have to manage that themselves, which is frustrating.
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- # [00:27] <TabAtkins> Don't alter history, bro.
- # [00:27] <TabAtkins> Didn't you watch Back To The Future?
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- # [00:28] <TabAtkins> You push commits 1, 2, and 3. They pull. Then you alter history and push, so the repo shows 1, 2, and 3a. They pull. Now there's a conflict, because their local history says 3 is the HEAD, but 3 doesn't show up in the remote history at all anymore.
- # [00:28] <TabAtkins> They've gotta manually checkout 2, *then* merge in the remote history, so they can go to 3a properly.
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- # [00:41] <jamesr___> non-fast-forward pushes are evil
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- # [00:45] <jgraham> Well github is designed all around encouraging them
- # [00:46] <jgraham> See, for example, the number of people that push each new commit to a PR as a --amend
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- # [00:46] <jgraham> That's pure GH failure, because it should clearly have a "squash and merge" option
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- # [00:48] <annevk> TabAtkins: in Notifications API I get "FATAL ERROR: Couldn't find target anchor dom-notification-notification: "
- # [00:48] <annevk> TabAtkins: Bikeshed seems very unstable
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- # [01:00] * annevk finds a fix
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- # [01:03] <TabAtkins> annevk: I didn't even realize Notifications was on Bikeshed.
- # [01:03] <TabAtkins> annevk: And the word you're looking for is "actively maintained" or "living standard".
- # [01:04] <annevk> A living standard doesn't break backcompat lightly though
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- # [01:04] <annevk> even though its detractors like to use that as an argument
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- # [01:05] <JoWie> annevk: hey
- # [01:05] <annevk> hey
- # [01:05] <JoWie> I found another issue in the node iterator removing steps
- # [01:05] <JoWie> (that PR was mine)
- # [01:06] <JoWie> point 3 says: "Set the referenceNode attribute to first node preceding oldPreviousSibling, if oldPreviousSibling is non-null,"
- # [01:06] <JoWie> i think the intent is to set it to the preceding of where the removed node was
- # [01:07] <JoWie> this matches the test
- # [01:07] <JoWie> what would be a good way to formulate this?
- # [01:07] <JoWie> I was thinking something like "Set the referenceNode attribute to the last descendant in tree order of oldPreviousSibling, ..."
- # [01:08] <TabAtkins> Back-compat is nice, yes, but it's way more important for standards than for standards-development tools. ^_^
- # [01:10] <TabAtkins> annevk: Ah, I see the error. Yeah, that was due to a new check. I won't apologize for adding things that make specs better, which old specs might violate because it wasn't previously checked.
- # [01:11] <annevk> JoWie: isn't that what preceding means?
- # [01:11] <TabAtkins> (I'm gonna tweak it a bit, but you can probably use `lt="Notification()"` to link to things - whenever it's unambiguous, you should be able to omit the arguments from the linking text of a method link. If you find an exception, please let me know.)
- # [01:11] <annevk> I see
- # [01:11] <JoWie> annevk: it says preceding of oldPreviousSibling
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- # [01:12] <JoWie> which is oldPreviousSibling.previousSibling.lastChild.lastChild (until not null)
- # [01:12] <JoWie> but what you need it oldPreviousSibling.lastChild.lastChild etc
- # [01:12] <annevk> Hmm yes
- # [01:15] <annevk> That is somewhat annoying, oldPreviousSibling might not have any descendants
- # [01:15] <annevk> So I guess that would need to be more elaborate overall...
- # [01:16] <JoWie> "inclusive descendant"?
- # [01:17] <JoWie> which exists
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- # [01:28] <JoWie> anyway bedankt, i gotta sleep
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- # [01:34] <annevk> graag gedaan
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- # [06:44] <dglazkov> smaug____: apologies for a (day-long) delay
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- # [06:47] <dglazkov> when you get a document from XHR, the document that was created will not have a registry associated with it: http://w3c.github.io/webcomponents/spec/custom/#creating-and-passing-registries
- # [06:48] <smaug____> right
- # [06:48] <dglazkov> when you append such an element to another document, nothing will happen
- # [06:48] <dglazkov> unless you import it
- # [06:48] <smaug____> meaning, clone into document..
- # [06:48] <smaug____> but ok
- # [06:48] <dglazkov> yep
- # [06:49] <dglazkov> the element is once-born
- # [06:49] <smaug____> I've never understood why registry is for browsing context documents only
- # [06:50] <dglazkov> well, it seems bad that you're XHR-ing a doc, and suddenly you get all sorts of JS executed as a result
- # [06:50] <smaug____> but I can see that we don't want to change element's behavior when moving it between documents
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- # [06:51] <smaug____> "suddenly", well you'd need to explicitly register stuff
- # [06:53] <smaug____> but not a big deal
- # [06:53] <smaug____> (the requirement for browsing context)
- # [06:54] <dglazkov> I guess because we don't have registries, another actor on the page could be registering elements.
- # [06:54] <dglazkov> FWIW, I really want to pursue registries and the ability to swap them around
- # [06:55] <dglazkov> so that you could potentially XHR a doc with a localized set of registered elements
- # [06:56] <dglazkov> but we need to learn to walk before flying
- # [06:56] <dglazkov> first get everyone agreed on the constructors/is=/upgrade
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- # [17:09] <Ms2ger> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-test/pull/773
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- # [20:33] <annevk> wanderview: mostly that the specification is bonkers
- # [20:34] <annevk> wanderview: in that it doesn't really integrate with the event loop
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