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  1. # Session Start: Thu May 28 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
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  7. # [00:02] <gsnedders> data:text/html,<script>document.write(location.href);</script> cross-browser returns a long string consisting of "data:text/html," repeatedly. how weird.
  8. # [00:02] <JoWie> that's because you're doing weird things :p
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  10. # [00:07] <jgraham> gsnedders: hah. But also, really? That seems surpising because you would have thought that the url was set before the document was sent to the parser
  11. # [00:07] <jgraham> Oh
  12. # [00:08] <espadrine> so, according to standards, what should the number of data: thingies be?
  13. # [00:08] <jgraham> Yeah, no that's not surprising
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  15. # [00:08] <espadrine> > An unbalanced tree was written using document.write() causing data from the network to be reparsed.
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  17. # [00:09] <gsnedders> jgraham: ?
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  23. # [00:17] <SimonSapin> gsnedders: I’m surprised that it’s not infinite
  24. # [00:18] <SimonSapin> there must be some kind of recursion limit to executing <script> from document.write
  25. # [00:18] <gsnedders> how's that the recursion?
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  28. # [00:21] <jgraham> gsnedders: ?
  29. # [00:23] <jgraham> You load the page. It parses to after the </script> and then runs a script which document.writes the text "data:text/html,<script>document.write(location.href);</script>", which is parsed until after the </script>, which runs a script that document.writes "data:text/html,<script>document.write(location.href);</script>", which…
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  32. # [00:24] <gsnedders> that was the guess I had… I didn't realise that caused a redirect…
  33. # [00:25] <jgraham> redirect?
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  35. # [00:25] <gsnedders> ohhhhh
  36. # [00:25] <gsnedders> duh
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  69. # [01:46] <zewt> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12575572 so why exactly do people do this obfuscation where they pass a global into a function instead of just assigning to a local
  70. # [01:47] <zewt> i see it a lot and it always seems to do nothing but make code harder to follow
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  74. # [02:00] <gsnedders> zewt: IIRC because it minifies better
  75. # [02:00] <zewt> that's pretty disgusting
  76. # [02:00] <zewt> obfuscate code so that it obfuscates better
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  82. # [02:19] <TabAtkins> Also: it shortens the scope chain between the code and the global in question, which provides questionable tiny perf benefits.
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  85. # [02:20] <gsnedders> uh, an argument is in the same place as a local variable
  86. # [02:20] <gsnedders> at least in most JS VMs
  87. # [02:20] <gsnedders> oh, you mean when it's assigned
  88. # [02:20] <gsnedders> um, in the typical case JS VMs go straight to the global scope, and don't look at intermediatry scopes.
  89. # [02:21] <gsnedders> so there's no scope walking
  90. # [02:24] <TabAtkins> gsnedders: Yeah, thus the "questionable" part.
  91. # [02:24] <TabAtkins> jQuery was an early popularizer of the technique, so I bet a lot is cargo-culting.
  92. # [02:24] <gsnedders> well, it's not questionable unless you're using eval/with in an intermediatry scope
  93. # [02:24] <gsnedders> and if you are you deserve to burn in hell ;P
  94. # [02:24] <zewt> also the call-an-anonymous-function paradigm is usually one-off calls during initialization and not inner loops
  95. # [02:24] <gsnedders> direct eval, that is
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  155. # [04:37] <MikeSmith> "using simple components that we understand and avoiding prematurely solving problems that aren't yet problems"
  156. # [04:38] <MikeSmith> http://githubengineering.com/rearchitecting-github-pages/
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  161. # [04:48] <zewt> re: https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/515873591515049984
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  241. # [09:24] <tobie> As promises and now streams are moving from the DOM directly into ES, are there plans to do the same with events?
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  244. # [09:26] <tobie> Context: I'm working on the sensor API, the first draft of which inherits from EventTarget, which makes is unsuitable for implementation outside of the browser (e.g.: in node/io).
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  259. # [10:02] <hsivonen> SimonSapin: I think we should get telemetry on the surrogate thing sooner than later. It seems improbable to me that it would be a compat problem to the point of making users reject the browser
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  335. # [15:18] <wilsonpage> hayato ping
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  337. # [15:20] <wilsonpage> hayato do you know of any reference material for custom pseudo selectors? (or are they called 'name parts'?)
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  512. # [21:11] <gentguyman> http://secure.hostgator.com/~affiliat/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=jimi13 great webserver deal
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  523. # [21:41] <caitp-> what a deal
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  577. # [23:59] * Quits: ehsan_ (~ehsan@66.207.208.102) (Remote host closed the connection)
  578. # [23:59] * Joins: ehsan (~ehsan@66.207.208.102)
  579. # Session Close: Fri May 29 00:00:00 2015

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