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- # [02:25] <TabAtkins> Domenic: Do you use Bikeshed's piping features?
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- # [02:33] <MikeSmith> in Mozilla bug reviews, what is rs=me
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- # [02:37] <heycam> a review without closely at the patch
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- # [02:43] <MikeSmith> heycam: ah ok, thanks
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- # [10:30] <MikeSmith> is location.assign(location.hash) is reasonable workaround to force navigation to the right anchor
- # [10:31] <MikeSmith> in a case where other script from a page is causing it to fail to scroll to the right place
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- # [10:33] * MikeSmith is trying to troubleshoot a buggy document and would prefer to workaround it rather than wade through its gobs of jquery-based script trying to figure out what's preventing it from scrolling to the expected anchor
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- # [11:04] <jgraham> MikeSmith: Web development advice? Tried #html-wg? ;)
- # [11:07] <darobin> hahahaha
- # [11:08] <darobin> MikeSmith: I'm not sure that'll work if the browser thinks it's already at the hash, no?
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- # [11:09] <darobin> MikeSmith: this is how it's solved in ReSpec https://github.com/w3c/respec/blob/develop/js/core/location-hash.js
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- # [11:26] * MikeSmith looks
- # [11:29] <darobin> MikeSmith: that code does some tricks to detect whether the user has already scrolled during load (so as not to re-scroll them back to the anchor)
- # [11:29] <darobin> you might not need that
- # [11:30] <darobin> but the heart of the trick is to unset location.hash, then set it again
- # [11:30] <darobin> IIRC nothing else worked, at least when that code was written
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- # [11:32] <MikeSmith> darobin: The location.assign(location.hash) way does work for me in my problem case, which is: location.hash does already have the right value (the anchor I want to scroll to) but other existing (broken) script on the page has caused it to scroll to the wrong place
- # [11:33] <darobin> MikeSmith: it's quite possible that the code I'm pointing you to was written to address a browser that is no longer an issue
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- # [11:41] <MikeSmith> jgraham: you're getting more like Ms2ger in your old age
- # [11:41] <Ms2ger> Get off our lawn
- # [11:41] <jgraham> Maybe I am Ms2ger
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- # [11:42] <MikeSmith> or maybe y'all are actually twin brothers separated at birth
- # [11:42] <Ms2ger> Has anyone ever seen us in the same room anyway?
- # [11:42] <MikeSmith> I did, in a dream
- # [11:42] <MikeSmith> I won't go into the details
- # [11:43] <Ms2ger> tmi already
- # [11:43] <MikeSmith> heh
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- # [13:41] <MikeSmith> darobin: in https://lists.mozilla.org/pipermail/dev-platform/2015-June/010235.html you must mean linked data is deployed to millions of *pages*, right? (not millions of domains)
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- # [13:59] <darobin> MikeSmith: no, domains
- # [13:59] <darobin> counting pages is pretty useless
- # [13:59] <darobin> some of those sites have infinite URL spaces
- # [14:00] <darobin> I have it on very good authority, I didn't include the source because I'm not sure that I can quote it
- # [14:01] <darobin> MikeSmith: search engines and social networks do useful stuff with that, it's not surprising that it's successful
- # [14:01] <darobin> there's a huge incentive
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- # [14:50] <MikeSmith> darobin: so yeah I see that https://schema.org/ says "Over 10 million sites use Schema.org to markup their web pages and email messages."
- # [14:51] <MikeSmith> (dunno how a site can use it mark up email messages though)
- # [14:52] <MikeSmith> I also see that Guha said back at the end of 2013, "about 15 percent of the pages we crawl have schema.org markup... Now over 5 million sites are using it."
- # [14:52] <MikeSmith> http://www.dataversity.net/schema-org-chat-googles-r-v-guha/
- # [14:53] <MikeSmith> still I count that as a success measure specifically for schema.org rather than for Linked Data in general
- # [14:53] <darobin> MikeSmith: there you go
- # [14:53] <darobin> MikeSmith: FYI it was 7 million at TPAC
- # [14:54] <MikeSmith> yeah clearly it's still growing
- # [14:56] <MikeSmith> darobin: also 10 million sites is still only 3% or 4% of the sites on the Web, right?
- # [14:56] <darobin> MikeSmith: yeah, but it's not a random 10 million, most are from the top destinations
- # [14:56] <MikeSmith> sure
- # [14:57] <darobin> MikeSmith: re email, it does stuff in GMail (and some other clients)
- # [14:57] <darobin> I'm sure Google can measure that :)
- # [14:58] <darobin> in fact it's the only way of adding interactivity to email, so that's another big incentive
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